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Post by hi224 on Jan 31, 2020 23:26:41 GMT
convicted anyone?.
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Post by clusium on Jan 31, 2020 23:36:18 GMT
Steven Truscott was wrongly convicted of killing his classmate, Lynn Harper, back in 1959 & was almost executed for it (he got a reprieve because of his young age). He was acquitted in 2007, 48 years later.
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Post by politicidal on Feb 3, 2020 4:59:11 GMT
As of right now, the Myon Burrell case.
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Post by Hairynosedwombat on Feb 3, 2020 6:28:17 GMT
Lindy Chamberlain, on a camping vacation with her family. The 3 children including their 3 month old Azaria are tucked into the tent while the adults are 20m away at a picnic table. Lindy hears something, rushes to the tent and sees a dingo taking away Azaria. A few weeks later big city detectives smell a rat. The local barflys find out that the family are 7th Day Adventists, some sort of crazy cult, and "Azaria", some sort of weird name, means child sacrifice. They get a fast talking professor from England who is certain tooth tears on a blanketare actually done by scissors, and his blood test detects blood all through the car and lindys husbands camerabag. She lied that Azaria had been wearing a jumpsuit. Life for murder. I had been living in Darwin and knew the locals were insular and knew nothing about the world. I also knew some 7th Day Adventists, who aren't crazy despite being vegetarian, and knew Lindy was gone. Several years later Azarias jumpsuit was found in a dingos lair, and Lindy was released, eventually to be acquitted with a new coroners report stating Azaria was taken by a dingo. Fuck a jury of your peers. Watch A Cry in the Dark starring Meryl Streep as Lindy
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Post by moonchild on Feb 14, 2020 0:51:53 GMT
The Central Park Jogger case
Five teens gave false confessions then recanted. Twelve years later the real rapist confessed and their convictions were vacated
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Post by Hairynosedwombat on Feb 15, 2020 7:19:55 GMT
I was living in London in 1974. Bombs went off in two Pubs in Guildford frequented by soldiers. Four people died. A few weeks later a bomb in Woolwich killed 2 more people. The Guildford 4 were convicted and the Macquire 7 (including the father of one of the Guildford 4) were convicted of handling the explosives used.
At the time I said with the hatred Londoners had for the Irish, if St Patrick was arrested he would be convicted.
15 years later they were all released, except for Guiseppe Conlan, the father who had travelled to London to support his arrested son and who died in prison) because it was proved confessions were either fabricated by the police or extracted under torture.
At the same time two Pubs in Birmingham were bombed and the Birmingham 6 were arrested and convicted. 20 years later they were released due to tortured confessions and botched forensics.
In all those bombings others have either confessed or been named as responsible. So much for British justice and the jury system.
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Post by Prime etc. on Feb 15, 2020 7:47:32 GMT
Richard Hauptmann seemed like a political scapegoat, perhaps because of anti-German sentiments being whipped up at the time. Norman Schwarzkopf's father was the police chief on the case--various scandal-ridden politicians connected as well. Have to wonder if ransom was not even the intent-but killing Lindbergh's first born son had ritual implications. There's many other wealthy people that could have been targeted for ransom. And if Isador Fisch actually did die in Europe too.
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Post by amyghost on Feb 15, 2020 16:21:59 GMT
Richard Hauptmann seemed like a political scapegoat, perhaps because of anti-German sentiments being whipped up at the time. Norman Schwarzkopf's father was the police chief on the case--various scandal-ridden politicians connected as well. Have to wonder if ransom was not even the intent-but killing Lindbergh's first born son had ritual implications. There's many other wealthy people that could have been targeted for ransom. And if Isador Fisch actually did die in Europe too. There's been an interesting, but I assume unsubstantiated, idea bruited about that Lindbergh himself might have arranged the infant's death; as a supposed endorser of the Aryan ideal of the perfect or 'master' race, it's thought that Lindbergh might have been severely upset over the possibility that his son was not physically perfect and might have suffered from some manner of mental and or physical defect: news.rutgers.edu/feature-focus/was-lindbergh-kidnapping-inside-job/20120828#.XkgZmmhKjccI admit I've had some doubts as to whether Hauptmann was the actual criminal; it seems fairly certain that it would have been highly unlikely, if not actually impossible, for him to have received an impartial trial given the high public feeling and enormous negative pre-trial publicity surrounding him.
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Post by Prime etc. on Feb 15, 2020 17:05:34 GMT
There's been an interesting, but I assume unsubstantiated, idea bruited about that Lindbergh himself might have arranged the infant's death; as a supposed endorser of the Aryan ideal of the perfect or 'master' race, it's thought that Lindbergh might have been severely upset over the possibility that his son was not physically perfect and might have suffered from some manner of mental and or physical defect: news.rutgers.edu/feature-focus/was-lindbergh-kidnapping-inside-job/20120828#.XkgZmmhKjccI admit I've had some doubts as to whether Hauptmann was the actual criminal; it seems fairly certain that it would have been highly unlikely, if not actually impossible, for him to have received an impartial trial given the high public feeling and enormous negative pre-trial publicity surrounding him. Lindbergh made media enemies for not being supportive of US entry into WW 2 or FDR and there has been a tendency to assume fanaticism is always right-wing and never the other side. The reputation of Walt Disney was also dragged through the mud in recent times (a recent book claimed that he was socially dysfunctional).
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Post by amyghost on Feb 15, 2020 17:13:29 GMT
There's been an interesting, but I assume unsubstantiated, idea bruited about that Lindbergh himself might have arranged the infant's death; as a supposed endorser of the Aryan ideal of the perfect or 'master' race, it's thought that Lindbergh might have been severely upset over the possibility that his son was not physically perfect and might have suffered from some manner of mental and or physical defect: news.rutgers.edu/feature-focus/was-lindbergh-kidnapping-inside-job/20120828#.XkgZmmhKjccI admit I've had some doubts as to whether Hauptmann was the actual criminal; it seems fairly certain that it would have been highly unlikely, if not actually impossible, for him to have received an impartial trial given the high public feeling and enormous negative pre-trial publicity surrounding him. Lindbergh made media enemies for not being supportive of US entry into WW 2 or FDR and there has been a tendency to assume fanaticism is always right-wing and never the other side. The reputation of Walt Disney was also dragged through the mud in recent times (a recent book claimed that he was socially dysfunctional).
It's been substantiated that Disney was a willing FBI informant during the HUAC/McCarthy frenzy, and there's reliable evidence that Lindbergh had no problems with Nazi racial and eugenics policies. Although I'm quite ready to admit that not all leftists are admirable human beings, there's no point in denying that both of these men harbored a darker side to their public personas, although the claim that Lindbergh might have engineered the death of his own toddler son does seem going out there a bit.
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Post by Prime etc. on Feb 15, 2020 17:34:06 GMT
It's been substantiated that Disney was a willing FBI informant during the HUAC/McCarthy frenzy, and there's reliable evidence that Lindbergh had no problems with Nazi racial and eugenics policies. Although I'm quite ready to admit that not all leftists are admirable human beings, there's no point in denying that both of these men harbored a darker side to their public personas, although the claim that Lindbergh might have engineered the death of his own toddler son does seem going out there a bit. A belief in eugenics was common prior to Marxist ideology. Darwin did not create it.
"Good blood," "good breeding," this goes back thousands of years. It was considered a no brainer that one is the combined heritage of the parents. HG Wells was supportive of eugenics, farmers too. The flip side of that extremist coin is Soviet-style barbarism which rarely gets addressed (but is now getting forced into attention thanks to immigrant crime and other things that challenge equality dogma).
Some Disney cartoons could be pretty dark though. But the media hates them with a passion-Disney's owners didn't even mark the 50th anniversary of his death-and their moral finger wagging is meaningless now given how much they peddle racial hostility. There are ways Lindbergh could have killed his son without making a media circus of it.
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Post by hi224 on Feb 15, 2020 19:57:54 GMT
Richard Hauptmann seemed like a political scapegoat, perhaps because of anti-German sentiments being whipped up at the time. Norman Schwarzkopf's father was the police chief on the case--various scandal-ridden politicians connected as well. Have to wonder if ransom was not even the intent-but killing Lindbergh's first born son had ritual implications. There's many other wealthy people that could have been targeted for ransom. And if Isador Fisch actually did die in Europe too. actually a great and interesting post as well.
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Post by amyghost on Feb 16, 2020 0:07:23 GMT
It's been substantiated that Disney was a willing FBI informant during the HUAC/McCarthy frenzy, and there's reliable evidence that Lindbergh had no problems with Nazi racial and eugenics policies. Although I'm quite ready to admit that not all leftists are admirable human beings, there's no point in denying that both of these men harbored a darker side to their public personas, although the claim that Lindbergh might have engineered the death of his own toddler son does seem going out there a bit. A belief in eugenics was common prior to Marxist ideology. Darwin did not create it.
"Good blood," "good breeding," this goes back thousands of years. It was considered a no brainer that one is the combined heritage of the parents. HG Wells was supportive of eugenics, farmers too. The flip side of that extremist coin is Soviet-style barbarism which rarely gets addressed (but is now getting forced into attention thanks to immigrant crime and other things that challenge equality dogma).
Some Disney cartoons could be pretty dark though. But the media hates them with a passion-Disney's owners didn't even mark the 50th anniversary of his death-and their moral finger wagging is meaningless now given how much they peddle racial hostility. There are ways Lindbergh could have killed his son without making a media circus of it.
Possibly so; but I'm quoting another's theory, not giving one of my own. As to who supported eugenics theory in the past, yes--both left and right can show proponents, and although Darwin may not have 'created' the notion of it, it's a certainty that his theories were distorted to give supposed scientific credence to the notions of eugenics that were popularly held both in the US and abroad in the mid-nineteenth into the twentieth centuries, most avidly by the upper classes (hence the term 'social Darwinism', justifying the idea that an individual's placement in the social hierarchy was genetically predetermined and that other, external conditions had little or no real bearing on that). This distortion of Darwinist theory is once more being dredged up to explain just why those pesky immigrants show such a supposed propensity towards criminal behaviors--the backgrounds from which they emerged having nothing at all to do with shaping their behaviors, and of course a handy mitigator of the reality that first-worlders, born into relative affluence and stable upbringings can also commit a pretty healthy percentage of crimes themselves.
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Post by Prime etc. on Feb 16, 2020 0:35:49 GMT
This distortion of Darwinist theory is once more being dredged up to explain just why those pesky immigrants show such a supposed propensity towards criminal behaviors--the backgrounds from which they emerged having nothing at all to do with shaping their behaviors, and of course a handy mitigator of the reality that first-worlders, born into relative affluence and stable upbringings can also commit a pretty healthy percentage of crimes themselves. What's changed is that the Marxist creed "skin is only a color" has been answered with "IQ" which is now being used to bypass the race issue entirely. "Low IQ people" is now the popular euphemistic phrasing.
Theories on criminality and genetics are also ancient. It is only in the Marxist age that we started to see emphasis on the idea that pedophiles or serial murderers can be reformed. It's a new idea not an old one.
But the big media suppresses news that does not correspond to its theories which does no one any favors.
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Post by hi224 on Feb 16, 2020 0:37:13 GMT
This distortion of Darwinist theory is once more being dredged up to explain just why those pesky immigrants show such a supposed propensity towards criminal behaviors--the backgrounds from which they emerged having nothing at all to do with shaping their behaviors, and of course a handy mitigator of the reality that first-worlders, born into relative affluence and stable upbringings can also commit a pretty healthy percentage of crimes themselves. What's changed is that the Marxist creed "skin is only a color" has been answered with "IQ" which is now being used to bypass the race issue entirely. "Low IQ people" is now the popular euphemistic phrasing.
Theories on criminality and genetics are also ancient. It is only in the Marxist age that we started to see emphasis on the idea that pedophiles or serial murderers can be reformed. It's a new idea not an old one.
But the big media suppresses news that does not correspond to its theories which does no one any favors.
you should post here more.
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Post by Prime etc. on Feb 16, 2020 0:41:19 GMT
you should post here more. You mean in True Crime?
To tell the truth I hardly noticed the category until the other day.
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Post by hi224 on Feb 16, 2020 0:42:44 GMT
you should post here more. You mean in True Crime?
To tell the truth I hardly noticed the category until the other day.
you make good posts.
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