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Post by Nora on Mar 1, 2020 0:44:37 GMT
Now while it sounds good we Do need to make sure AI doesn’t become subservient to any religion... Considering that we would be its god, I don't think we need to do that at all. Or do we though? Maybe we should teach it evaluate ethics independently of its god eventually.
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Post by Admin on Mar 1, 2020 0:47:52 GMT
Considering that we would be its god, I don't think we need to do that at all. Or do we though? Maybe we should teach it evaluate ethics independently of its god eventually. I was being facetious, of course. If it comes from something else, it wouldn't be "God."
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Post by Nora on Mar 1, 2020 1:05:33 GMT
Or do we though? Maybe we should teach it evaluate ethics independently of its god eventually. I was being facetious, of course. If it comes from something else, it wouldn't be "God." What not, does our free will invalidate Gods existence or the fact we were created by God (should we believe that in the first place)
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Post by Admin on Mar 1, 2020 1:28:09 GMT
I was being facetious, of course. If it comes from something else, it wouldn't be "God." What not, does our free will invalidate Gods existence or the fact we were created by God (should we believe that in the first place) If something exists, nothing can invalidate it. If you built an AI and it asked you about your origin, what would you tell it?
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Post by Nora on Mar 1, 2020 2:08:21 GMT
What not, does our free will invalidate Gods existence or the fact we were created by God (should we believe that in the first place) If something exists, nothing can invalidate it. If you built an AI and it asked you about your origin, what would you tell it? exactly, thats what I mean. even if we gave AI free will it wouldnt necesarrily mean it stops seeing us as its god, if it did in the first place at all. i am now realizing we may both be talking about something else we think the other one is talking about. i reread the sequence of our dialogue and it seems that way. anyway, if we asked AI we created its origins, what would it say? it depends, did we tell it we built it? does it know its separate of us? does it have a feeling of self?
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Post by Admin on Mar 1, 2020 3:50:23 GMT
If something exists, nothing can invalidate it. If you built an AI and it asked you about your origin, what would you tell it? exactly, thats what I mean. even if we gave AI free will it wouldnt necesarrily mean it stops seeing us as its god, if it did in the first place at all. i am now realizing we may both be talking about something else we think the other one is talking about. i reread the sequence of our dialogue and it seems that way. anyway, if we asked AI we created its origins, what would it say? it depends, did we tell it we built it? does it know its separate of us? does it have a feeling of self? It knows you built it and it knows it isn't you. Most likely, it would say it's turtles all the way down.
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Post by petrolino on Mar 1, 2020 4:08:18 GMT
This thread promotes thought and intellectualism so well, I hope it attracts more people to this site which I personally consider to be most excellent. Thanks to all concerned.
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Post by Nora on Mar 1, 2020 5:10:54 GMT
This thread promotes thought and intellectualism so well, I hope it attracts more people to this site which I personally consider to be most excellent. Thanks to all concerned.
thank you i am glad you enjoy it. It’s a fascinating field at least to me. Due to my work I have the possibility to influence governments on how they regulate this so I invest a lot of time in research and thinking about all the practical use of AI and how desirable it’s evolution is and how it should be regulated. sometimes however it leads to quite uncomfortable discussions, but because AI/robotics IS our future, I believe it’s worth having these. For example - if statistical data show that sexually motivated crime against children drops in places where child resembling robots are manufactured for having sex with, is the socially more responsible decision to SUPPORT or BAN its use? If support (allow), are we sure we are not normalizing malignant behavior and also how do we regulate it? If ban, what arguments do we use in the face of numbers on those crimes dropping where such robots are in use? But almost nobody wants to even just discuss this topic... And on teaching AI to be kind - if you think about it. It’s like a child. On spite of best intentions, once we release it into the world and don’t exercise 100% control over it and allow it to learn by observing others, Both will pick up some habits or opinions we didn’t necessarily mean for them to pick up, just because they are surrounded by it and may wrongly assume that doing those things or holding those opinions is some benefit, because they see it So much in others. So we need to actively promote and exhibit kindness and compassion, to teach both our human and digital offsprings the best human qualities, hoping that they will therefore one day be more likely to decide to help us live longer rather than pulling the plug.
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Post by louise on Mar 2, 2020 22:04:02 GMT
This sounds like absolute claptrap to me. How can artificial intelligence learn anything?
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Post by Nora on Mar 2, 2020 23:39:51 GMT
This sounds like absolute claptrap to me. How can artificial intelligence learn anything? What do you mean how, can you please expand on your question in case I am not answering what I think you are asking? AI (algorithm) is given tasks to do. One of these tasks can be: count to 100 and subtract and add numbers. Or it can be: observe these data sets and operations within, here is a pattern we identified within its use, observe the pattern and it’s goal and then improve upon its efficiency. Once efficiency has been identified, implement it into your normal way of operating ( learn to use it). Is that what you were asking about? Please know right now the AI is only learning what we tell it to learn but Maybe One day (perhaps very far away) it will decide for itself what it wants to learn in order to improve itself or its habitat. But even now when it’s us telling it what to learn it’s still learning from what we (humans) do... Specific example: if a person shows on line they are sad, and you show them five photos of cute kittens and puppies the person will indicate in 89% that it’s mood improved. AI can analyze this across very large data sets and find out that for men to do that you need 5 pictures but for women only 3, and for women that are divorced and over 50 months not 2. And for Catman only 1 It then learns that you can use fewer photos and reach the same goal with less resources and time.
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Post by Nora on Mar 15, 2020 23:43:13 GMT
especially in times like these, why bring more negativity and attacks and arguments into this world.
on a positive note - there is AI that analyzes unfinished classical music pieces of dead famous composers and finishes it for them in their style and some of it is Really Really impressive.
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