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Post by Nora on Feb 26, 2020 15:58:23 GMT
Artificial intelligence is crawling the Internet independently learning from human behavior. Our online behavior. Please be mindful of what you are teaching it. Let’s show it the best of humanity. And also some pix of cats of course, as cats count as one of the best part of humanity  |
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Post by Catman on Feb 26, 2020 17:52:27 GMT
In the episode 'The Intelligence' Gumball and the Internet get into an argument, so the Internet decides to upgrade itself and ends up unable to cope with its new powers, throwing the entire town of Elmore into the Dark Ages. So Gumball and Darwin have to track down the location of the Internet without the help of technology to restore order to the town.
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Feb 26, 2020 17:52:39 GMT
Artificial intelligence is crawling the Internet independently learning from human behavior. Our online behavior. Please be mindful of what you are teaching it. Let’s show it the best of humanity. And also some pix of cats of course, as cats count as one of the best part of humanity IF this is true and correct then we're already screwed. Big time. AI will have a pretty clear picture of our history, which is not good, and of how we behave individually and as masses toward one another, which is also not good.
So if its true that AI is watching and learning, we're done for. How could it possibly conclude anything other than that we're assholes? Wars, slavery, racism, infighting, etc. etc. The list of how fucked up we are towards one another is never ending.
And if you look at it historically you have to acknowledge that its only gotten worse. We've had TWO WORLD WARS, the greatest example of mass slavery and mass genocide, and countless other conflicts in the last century alone!
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Post by politicidal on Feb 26, 2020 17:55:08 GMT
Artificial intelligence is crawling the Internet independently learning from human behavior. Our online behavior. Please be mindful of what you are teaching it. Let’s show it the best of humanity. And also some pix of cats of course, as cats count as one of the best part of humanity IF this is true and correct then we're already screwed. Big time. AI will have a pretty clear picture of our history, which is not good, and of how we behave individually and as masses toward one another, which is also not good.
So if its true that AI is watching and learning, we're done for. How could it possibly conclude anything other than that we're assholes? Wars, slavery, racism, infighting, etc. etc. The list of how fucked up we are towards one another is never ending.
Ultron was right.  
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Post by Nora on Feb 26, 2020 18:39:39 GMT
Artificial intelligence is crawling the Internet independently learning from human behavior. Our online behavior. Please be mindful of what you are teaching it. Let’s show it the best of humanity. And also some pix of cats of course, as cats count as one of the best part of humanity IF this is true and correct then we're already screwed. Big time. AI will have a pretty clear picture of our history, which is not good, and of how we behave individually and as masses toward one another, which is also not good.
So if its true that AI is watching and learning, we're done for. How could it possibly conclude anything other than that we're assholes? Wars, slavery, racism, infighting, etc. etc. The list of how fucked up we are towards one another is never ending.
And if you look at it historically you have to acknowledge that its only gotten worse. We've had TWO WORLD WARS, the greatest example of mass slavery and mass genocide, and countless other conflicts in the last century alone!
1. Yes it is true 2. No it’s not too late. 3. The world is the safest place it has ever been in history actually and we are less poor and healthier etc. It just seems it’s bad. Bud the murder rates etc have been steadily going down, so has the numbers of wars and such conflicts. However, clarification - the AI is now focused mostly on learning through observing our online behavior. It’s learning to analyze what we do and why, what we feel and why and how what we feel influences our behavior and choices. It’s not looking at history studying Ancient Greek wars and such . So it’s super important to be mindful of that and focus on projecting the best human qualities possible. Take responsibility for our own happiness and for what we do on line and how we engage and treat each other and how we make our decisions. We are all parents and teachers to the next level AI. And I am not even talking about singularity but weak AI that doesn’t have sense of itself etc, but that weak/narrow AI already is able to learn and it decides a lot of things on behalf of humans. We want to make sure it’s not a biased AI, it’s ethically behaving AI and we want to show it all of that and its best to demonstrate it via our own good behavior. |
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Post by Nora on Feb 26, 2020 18:49:13 GMT
As of today, we still teach AI that the biggest commercial benefits come from introducing / escalating conflict (online).
What a horrible message. We can ALL be involved in trying to change that...
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Post by Nora on Feb 26, 2020 21:03:16 GMT
This sound dubious though in a sense that what is being asked, is only projected from the human mind and if we can’t sort out our own issues, we are going to let AI do it. It will also become about AI then programming other AI and if using human attitude and behaviour, they will end up using suffering as a core attribute to model themselves from. Well that’s the point, to teach them something better. We are very far away from AI acting completely independently, at this point it still just carries out tasks we give it. One of those tasks is “go learn and analyze patterns”. One of such recognized patterns is “conflict leads to higher level of engagement which leads to higher opportunities for financial benefits”. So if the next task is “create opportunities for most effective ways to gain most financial benefits” it translates as “create conflict”. And AI is already involved in that. By introducing high intensity interaction and emotions and attacks into our on line behavior so often, we are showing that we as humans responds the most to conflict and thus we give reasons to the “ machines” (which are rather just more or less developed algorithms at this point) to use it for profit of those who programmed and/or use it. It’s an incredibly interesting field of science, ethical use of AI and it’s development is stunning. We should all be more aware of this happening as we spend more and more of our lives on line... |
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Feb 26, 2020 21:18:03 GMT
IF this is true and correct then we're already screwed. Big time. AI will have a pretty clear picture of our history, which is not good, and of how we behave individually and as masses toward one another, which is also not good.
So if its true that AI is watching and learning, we're done for. How could it possibly conclude anything other than that we're assholes? Wars, slavery, racism, infighting, etc. etc. The list of how fucked up we are towards one another is never ending.
And if you look at it historically you have to acknowledge that its only gotten worse. We've had TWO WORLD WARS, the greatest example of mass slavery and mass genocide, and countless other conflicts in the last century alone!
1. Yes it is true 2. No it’s not too late. 3. The world is the safest place it has ever been in history actually and we are less poor and healthier etc. It just seems it’s bad. Bud the murder rates etc have been steadily going down, so has the numbers of wars and such conflicts. However, clarification - the AI is now focused mostly on learning through observing our online behavior. It’s learning to analyze what we do and why, what we feel and why and how what we feel influences our behavior and choices. It’s not looking at history studying Ancient Greek wars and such . So it’s super important to be mindful of that and focus on projecting the best human qualities possible. Take responsibility for our own happiness and for what we do on line and how we engage and treat each other and how we make our decisions. We are all parents and teachers to the next level AI. And I am not even talking about singularity but weak AI that doesn’t have sense of itself etc, but that weak/narrow AI already is able to learn and it decides a lot of things on behalf of humans. We want to make sure it’s not a biased AI, it’s ethically behaving AI and we want to show it all of that and demonstrate it via our own behavior. Oh boy! You're screwed. You're number 1 on the hit list after that "weak/narrow" crack. I wouldn't be surprised if your credit score goes down, your bills go up, and a big Austrian bodybuilder shows up at your door.
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Post by Nora on Feb 26, 2020 21:31:07 GMT
1. Yes it is true 2. No it’s not too late. 3. The world is the safest place it has ever been in history actually and we are less poor and healthier etc. It just seems it’s bad. Bud the murder rates etc have been steadily going down, so has the numbers of wars and such conflicts. However, clarification - the AI is now focused mostly on learning through observing our online behavior. It’s learning to analyze what we do and why, what we feel and why and how what we feel influences our behavior and choices. It’s not looking at history studying Ancient Greek wars and such . So it’s super important to be mindful of that and focus on projecting the best human qualities possible. Take responsibility for our own happiness and for what we do on line and how we engage and treat each other and how we make our decisions. We are all parents and teachers to the next level AI. And I am not even talking about singularity but weak AI that doesn’t have sense of itself etc, but that weak/narrow AI already is able to learn and it decides a lot of things on behalf of humans. We want to make sure it’s not a biased AI, it’s ethically behaving AI and we want to show it all of that and demonstrate it via our own behavior. Oh boy! You're screwed. You're number 1 on the hit list after that "weak/narrow" crack. I wouldn't be surprised if your credit score goes down, your bills go up, and a big Austrian bodybuilder shows up at your door. I am well ahead of tje game and have No credit score preemtively  never had a credit card, mortgage or student loan or anything. So its like I dont exist  But the Australian bodybuilder IS welcome in my house anytime ;-) |
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Feb 26, 2020 21:42:50 GMT
Oh boy! You're screwed. You're number 1 on the hit list after that "weak/narrow" crack. I wouldn't be surprised if your credit score goes down, your bills go up, and a big Austrian bodybuilder shows up at your door. I am well ahead of tje game and have No credit score preemtively never had a credit card, mortgage or student loan or anything. So its like I dont exist But the Australian bodybuilder IS welcome in my house anytime ;-)
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Post by dirtypillows on Feb 27, 2020 0:35:54 GMT
Artificial intelligence is crawling the Internet independently learning from human behavior. Our online behavior. Please be mindful of what you are teaching it. Let’s show it the best of humanity. And also some pix of cats of course, as cats count as one of the best part of humanity This reminds me of HAL from"2001", and that did not go well. HAL was envious and he coveted. And that was over 50 years ago. Arthur C. Clarke, another genius.
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Post by Admin on Feb 27, 2020 0:43:07 GMT
We have a long way to go before AI feels anything at all, let alone kindness and compassion.
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Post by Stammerhead on Feb 27, 2020 0:53:29 GMT
We have a long way to go before AI feels anything at all, let alone kindness and compassion. A long, long time ago... 
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Post by Nora on Feb 27, 2020 1:58:37 GMT
We have a long way to go before AI feels anything at all, let alone kindness and compassion. Yes of course, very long way before it’s “feeling”, if at all, agree. But what’s already happening is AI having ability to recognize behavioral symptoms of various emotions in humans and act accordingly, for example when needing to affect it, or connect it to a human behavior resulting in taking some action, such as spending time or money somewhere. That’s essentially what I am talking about that we should be mindful off. It’s also analyzing our communication and engagement patterns and bias and predicting decisions and profiling us based on such predictions. Hell AI is used in calculating criminal tendencies or predicting break ups, or mortality of individuals. All we do on line matters. That’s my point. |
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Post by chalk3 on Feb 27, 2020 2:22:23 GMT
BS I don't believe in - Yet!
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Post by Nora on Feb 27, 2020 2:51:43 GMT
BS I don't believe in - Yet! you dont need to blindly believe me, do some research, google it. start with Tristan Harris, then go on to Mo Gowdat then do some research on use of AI in predictive analytics, including predicting within criminology, insurance and social networking. Good eye opener is the facebook use of ai to influance (change) indicators of human emotions. then go on to differential privacy and ethical ai regulatory framework, lots of interesting reading out the related to this topic. AI needs as much data as possible to learn. right now its still learning only what we tell it to learn. but even that alrrady includes learning to understand the basics of human behavior as manifested in data we leave on line. average user has over 70k data points collected om them by one online provider by the age of 18. think about that. think about how insanely good AI can get in predicting your behavior on line with so much data about You. And 70k is nothig. Its not only what you will pick to watch on Netflix, but even behind those suggestion for choices there is some pretty sophisticated AI.... there is AI able to analyze and predict the likelihood of someone shooting out a school based on their online behavior... in order to do that it has to have access to A Lot of data and be able to mine the data and analyze patterns, often not even patterns we are aware of ourselvs. sooner than later there may be a law in the US MANDATING that each school uses it to indicate potential FUTURE threads and its likelihood... crazy seemig isnt it? yet real... we are closer to minority report than we usually like to think. none of this means “the robots are alive”. but it does mean they are learning by examining our online actions. so lets be mindful of that. |
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Post by maxwellperfect on Feb 27, 2020 5:28:54 GMT
God help us if AI is learning from what it encounters on social media.
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Post by Nora on Feb 27, 2020 13:07:09 GMT
God help us if AI is learning from what it encounters on social media. I agree, it brings out the absolute worst in many people. I think we need to include the ethics and effects of online behavior into schools as a mandatory subject for kids to study. In my eyes it’s paramount to future societal health. |
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Post by Nora on Feb 29, 2020 23:35:56 GMT
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Post by Admin on Mar 1, 2020 0:16:29 GMT
Now while it sounds good we Do need to make sure AI doesn’t become subservient to any religion... Considering that we would be its god, I don't think we need to do that at all. 
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