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Post by msdemos on Apr 2, 2020 22:38:01 GMT
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Post by Feologild Oakes on Apr 2, 2020 22:48:51 GMT
No its nor airborne
The coronavirus is a respiratory virus which spreads primarily through droplets generated when an infected person coughs or sneezes, or through droplets of saliva or discharge from the nose. To protect yourself, clean your hands frequently with an alcohol-based hand rub or wash them with soap and water.
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Post by movieliker on Apr 2, 2020 22:53:02 GMT
No. It's not airborne.
Airborne means it hangs around in the air after you are gone.
Airborne does not mean it travels through the air.
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Post by Feologild Oakes on Apr 2, 2020 22:56:38 GMT
I am not an expert but i think if it had been Airborne it would have been far worse probably close to like the Spanish flu which was airborne.
I could be wrong but i would assume that an airborne pandemic would be far worse than what we have know.
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Post by divtal on Apr 3, 2020 3:52:21 GMT
I'm not a physician. So, take my words with a grain of salt. CNN's Dr. Sanjay Gupta, and a couple of other MDs, who I've heard interviewed, have said that it CAN be airborne ... BRIEFLY ... in cough/sneeze droplets. But, the danger of immediate contagion would require closeness to the person coughing/sneezing. Evidently, gravity comes into play, and the virus settles on ground, and other surfaces. And, that's why there is such an extreme caution about touching various, unknown surfaces, then touching your face. What I have wondered is if the virus is vulnerable to heat or cold. If I put a bottle of white wine in the 'fridge (which I am want to do -- ), would the cold kill the virus? Conversely, would cooking kill the virus, were it on a container that's being micorowaved?
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Post by movieliker on Apr 3, 2020 4:00:32 GMT
I'm not a physician. So, take my words with a grain of salt. CNN's Dr. Sanjay Gupta, and a couple of other MDs, who I've heard interviewed, have said that it CAN be airborne ... BRIEFLY ... in cough/sneeze droplets. But, the danger of immediate contagion would require closeness to the person coughing/sneezing. Evidently, gravity comes into play, and the virus settles on ground, and other surfaces. And, that's why there is such an extreme caution about touching various, unknown surfaces, then touching your face. What I have wondered is if the virus is vulnerable to heat or cold. If I put a bottle of white wine in the 'fridge (which I am want to do -- ), would the cold kill the virus? Conversely, would cooking kill the virus, were it on a container that's being micorowaved? That's one thing I keep hearing that is counter to what I would think about a virus. They keep saying the Coronavirus doesn't do well with heat. And they insinuate it last a long time in cold temperatures. Even freezing temperatures. That seems opposite of what I would think.
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Post by Sarge on Apr 3, 2020 4:11:42 GMT
Beware of info being spread around -- a lot of educated non-experts are tossing out theories or extrapolating from similar viruses. You want info from credible sources that study infectious diseases and specifically this virus. A good example is back when SIDS was in the news, many pediatricians spoke with confidence about causes of crib death but a pediatrician is not considered an expert in that field because they treat healthy infants; the correct expert is a pathologist. On another forum I frequent, a dentist has anointed himself the resident expert on coronavirus and posts with authority yet his info is contrary to the CDC website.
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Post by divtal on Apr 3, 2020 4:11:55 GMT
I hadn't heard that, Movie. That would be counter to my non-scientific instincts, too.
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Post by mslo79 on Apr 7, 2020 18:30:02 GMT
Here is a word-for-word copy I typed up on what Dr. David Price (Weill Cornell Medical Center (in New York)) said about COVID-19 on Waters World (on Fox News) on March 28th 2020...
given that info... I am not that concerned with airborne stuff as while he did not completely write that possibility off, it seems to be difficult to contract in the air at the very least and pretty much boils down to hands to face contact.
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Post by movieliker on Apr 7, 2020 18:49:48 GMT
Here is a word-for-word copy I typed up on what Dr. David Price (Weill Cornell Medical Center (in New York)) said about COVID-19 on Waters World (on Fox News) on March 28th 2020... given that info... I am not that concerned with airborne stuff as while he did not completely write that possibility off, it seems to be difficult to contract in the air at the very least and pretty much boils down to hands to face contact. "the way that you get this is the transmission of the virus almost exclusively from your hands to your face, from your hands to your face. and so it's either into your eyes, into your nose, or into your mouth. so there's a lot of talk about getting it through contact hands to face. there is also a small thought that it can be aerosolized, that it can kind of exist a little bit in the air. the thought at this point is that you have to have very long sustained contact with someone and I am talking about over 15 to 30 minutes in an unprotected environment, meaning your in a very enclosed room, without any type of mask, for you to get it that way. but to very simply state the overwhelming majority of people are getting this by physically touching someone who has this disease or will develop it within the next 1 to 2 days and then touching their(ones) face."I agree.
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Post by mslo79 on Apr 7, 2020 19:42:39 GMT
movielikerYeah, so basically people need to stop obsessing over face masks and other BS as the bottom line is one just has to be cautious of where there hands have been before touching their face (I get it's best not to touch ones face at all(like the doctor said) but since many of us have a habit of touching our faces randomly, at least we can just keep our hands clean after leaving the house and coming back to the house etc). but for years now if I am out at say a grocery store like Walmart as I leave there, pretty much as soon as I get back home I wash my hands and probably shortly after unpacking everything etc as this way when I do touch my face, which I am sure it's a habit for many of us, my risks of getting it should be minimal even if the stuff I had touched had COVID-19 on it. besides... you can just feel the grime/dirt etc on your hands after getting groceries and I like to have reasonably clean hands when I can. so it's just a habit for me to wash my hands after handing groceries etc. but what I am wondering is say one grabs some groceries at a store with COVID-19 on it, are the backside of ones hand still reasonably safe? ; because if I got infected with COVID-19 that would probably be the way I would be most likely to catch it through touch. because I got a habit during certain times of the year where my nose is a bit runny, which I kind of assume is some sort of allergy, and since I don't always have access to Kleenex facial tissue to blow my nose, I find myself occasionally using the backside tip area (finger nail area) of my left and right hands middle finger (or occasionally knuckle area) to flick off the watery drainage (like the left side of my nose I use the backside of my right hands middle-finger and the right side of my nose ill use the backside of my left hands middle-finger) and the tiny amount(which is watery, not snot etc) still left on the backside tip of my middle finger I just wipe the excess on my pants. because if I was going to get it from hand to face contact, that would likely be my personal highest risk situation I suspect. but anyways, the hands to face stuff aside for a moment... even if there is about a 1% chance say someone gets it in the air, it's not something that's going to spread like wild-fire through the air. so people getting it must not be cautious of where there hands have been and then touching their face and it somehow gets into their eyes/nose/mouth. p.s. I should also note that what I quoted there with the doctor is pretty much a word-for-word copy as I omitted minor stuff like him saying 'um' and other minor things like that, so that it reads better. but it's pretty much a word-for-word copy. but for those who want to see it themselves I am sure you can look up that episode on YouTube as all of that text I typed up is all within the first 4 minutes or so of that episode. so no one can claim I am putting out false info etc since it's directly from a doctor on the front lines in New York which gives him more credibility since he's likely dealing with it more than most others doctors will.
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Post by ProjectError on Apr 7, 2020 23:06:17 GMT
It it was, we would be infinitely screwed. Everyone would inevitably get it, it'd just be a matter of who survives.
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Post by movieliker on Apr 7, 2020 23:20:47 GMT
It it was, we would be infinitely screwed. Everyone would inevitably get it, it'd just be a matter of who survives. According to statistics, 98 percent of the total population would survive with proper care. If the medical systems were overwhelmed, at most, only 4 percent of the population would die.
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