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Post by moviemouth on Apr 3, 2020 22:55:50 GMT
With all the talk of unoriginality in movies these days I thought it would be interesting to compare 2019 to a random year from the early 1990's and see the difference. One thing is for sure, remakes are much more common these days. Sequels were still many and seemingly worse in quality in 1993.
1993
Sequels
The Philadelphia Experiment II Return of the Living Dead 3 Son of the Pink Panther Children of the Corn II Army of Darkness Best of the Best 2 Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles III Hot Shots! Part Deux Weekend at Bernie's II Another Stakeout Psycho IV: The Beginning Jason Goes to Hell: The Final Friday The Hills Have Eyes Part 2 Warlock: The Armageddon Supercop 2 Look Who's Talking Now RoboCop 3 Ernest Rides Again Addams Family Values Sister Act 2 Back in the Habit Wayne's World 2 Beethoven's 2nd
Remakes
The Vanishing Point of No Return Born Yesterday
Other
Tombstone Batman: Mask of the Phantasm The Three Musketeers The Beverly Hillbillies The Fugitive Tom and Jerry: The Movie Coneheads The Adventures of Huck Finn Much ado About Nothing The Nutcracker
2019
Sequels
The LEGO Movie 2: The Second Part Glass John Wick 3: Parabellum Avengers: Endgame A Madea Family Funeral How to Train Your Dragon: The Hidden World Happy Death Day 2U Toy Story 4 Shaft Men in Black: International The Secret Life of Pets 2 Dark Phoenix Godzilla: King of the Monsters It Chapter Two Angel Has Fallen The Angry Birds 2 Movie 47 Meters Down: Uncaged Fast & Furious Presents: Hobbs and Shaw Spider-Man: Far From Home Annabelle Comes Home Jumanji: The Next Level Terminator: Dark Fate Zombieland: Double Tap Maleficent: Mistress of Evil Jay and Silent Bob Reboot Rambo: Last Blood Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker Frozen II Doctor Sleep
Remakes
Black Christmas The Lion King Aladdin Dumbo Child's Play What Men Want Cold Pursuit Jacob's Ladder After the Wedding The Upside
Other
Little Women Charlie's Angels Midway Joker Downton Abbey Dora and the Lost City of Gold Pokémon Detective Pikachu Hellboy Pet Semetary
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Post by James on Apr 3, 2020 23:03:58 GMT
I mean, Hellboy and Pet Sematary are kind of like remakes when you get down to it.
But yeah, these people are complaining a bit too much these days. In terms of quality, at least we don’t get as many RoboCop 3’s or Batman & Robin’s.
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Post by moviemouth on Apr 3, 2020 23:18:05 GMT
I mean, Hellboy and Pet Sematary are kind of like remakes when you get down to it. But yeah, these people are complaining a bit too much these days. In terms of quality, at least we don’t get as many RoboCop 3’s or Batman & Robin’s. Techincally a remake is a movie based on an original screenplay or movies that are based on books but obviously remakes of specific movies. Hellboy has a different plot than the first movie version and is based on comic books and Pet Semetary is based on famous novel and strays far from the 1989 movie.
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Post by moviemouth on Apr 3, 2020 23:23:33 GMT
I mean, Hellboy and Pet Sematary are kind of like remakes when you get down to it. But yeah, these people are complaining a bit too much these days. In terms of quality, at least we don’t get as many RoboCop 3’s or Batman & Robin’s. The remakes are what bother me. Another difference is that the sequels were mostly under the radar in 1993 and didn't dominate the BO.
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Post by politicidal on Apr 4, 2020 0:05:42 GMT
But yeah, these people are complaining a bit too much these days. Welcome to the Internet.
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Post by James on Apr 4, 2020 1:13:36 GMT
I mean, Hellboy and Pet Sematary are kind of like remakes when you get down to it. But yeah, these people are complaining a bit too much these days. In terms of quality, at least we don’t get as many RoboCop 3’s or Batman & Robin’s. Techincally a remake is a movie based on an original screenplay or movies that are based on books but obviously remakes of specific movies. Hellboy has a different plot than the first movie version and is based on comic books and Pet Semetary is based on famous novel and strays far from the 1989 movie. I don’t know, PS felt awfully similar to the 1989 movie.
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Post by James on Apr 4, 2020 1:16:30 GMT
I mean, Hellboy and Pet Sematary are kind of like remakes when you get down to it. But yeah, these people are complaining a bit too much these days. In terms of quality, at least we don’t get as many RoboCop 3’s or Batman & Robin’s. The remakes are what bother me. Another difference is that the sequels were mostly under the radar in 1993 and didn't dominate the BO. Yeah, I can definitely see that with remakes; there’s just too many. At least the earlier decades had more chance to shine with their original films.
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Post by moviemouth on Apr 4, 2020 1:31:31 GMT
Techincally a remake is a movie based on an original screenplay or movies that are based on books but obviously remakes of specific movies. Hellboy has a different plot than the first movie version and is based on comic books and Pet Semetary is based on famous novel and strays far from the 1989 movie. I don’t know, PS felt awfully similar to the 1989 movie. I don't think it feels similar. They are based on the same novel though and from what I know, all the stuff they have in common is in the novel.
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Post by Prime etc. on Apr 4, 2020 1:36:50 GMT
You have to list the non sequel films from the same period to show the difference. These days, just about everything is a remake or sequel-there were more new films in 1993 that were prominent in media. But I wouldn't use the 1990s, I would go back to 1980 or 1970 to see the difference in type.
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Post by moviemouth on Apr 4, 2020 1:40:42 GMT
You have to list the non sequel films from the same period to show the difference. These days, just about everything is a remake or sequel-there were more new films in 1993 that were prominent in media. But I wouldn't use the 1990s, I would go back to 1980 or 1970 to see the difference in type. The difference is way more obvious when you go back that far.
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Post by Prime etc. on Apr 4, 2020 1:41:40 GMT
The difference is obvious when you go back that far. Yeah that's right ain't it.
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Post by moviemouth on Apr 4, 2020 1:45:36 GMT
The difference is obvious when you go back that far. Yeah that's right ain't it.
Umm, nobody is arguing. Most people I have seen complain are talking about as recent as the 1990's.
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Post by Prime etc. on Apr 4, 2020 1:47:33 GMT
Umm, nobody is arguing. Most people I have seen complain are talking about as recent as the 1990's. Umm I wasn't arguing. I just didn't know what else to say and didn't feel like hitting the like button.
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Post by James on Apr 4, 2020 2:26:20 GMT
I don’t know, PS felt awfully similar to the 1989 movie. I don't think it feels similar. They are based on the same novel though and from what I know, all the stuff they have in common is in the novel. That’s true, but even with the few changes they made from the 89 one, it’s essentially the same thing over again.
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Post by moviemouth on Apr 4, 2020 2:28:53 GMT
I don't think it feels similar. They are based on the same novel though and from what I know, all the stuff they have in common is in the novel. That’s true, but even with the few changes they made from the 89 one, it’s essentially the same thing over again. Yeah, but that doesn't constitute remake though. Obviously if 2 movies are based on the same book they are going to be very similar unless the movie is drastically different from the book. The second half of the 2019 movie is drastically different from the 1989 movie and the book. Maybe you just don't remember. Then there are just very strange changes such as the 3 year old son who dies is now a 6 year old girl. One of my biggest issue with the remake is that it changes the Indian burial ground from a subtle but creepy native burial ground to looking like they walked into Mordor in the remake. The "creepiness" is very in your face in the remake, which actually has the opposite effect.
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Post by James on Apr 4, 2020 2:40:02 GMT
That’s true, but even with the few changes they made from the 89 one, it’s essentially the same thing over again. Yeah, but that doesn't constitute remake though. Obviously if 2 movies are based on the same book they are going to be very similar unless the movie is drastically different from the book. The second half of the 2019 movie is drastically different from the 1989 movie and the book. Maybe you just don't remember. Then there are just very strange changes such as the 3 year old son who dies is now a 6 year old girl. One of my biggest issue with the remake is that it chanages the Indian Burial ground from a subtle but creepy native burial ground to looking like they walked onto the set of LOTR. The creepiness is very in your face in the remake, which actually has the opposite effect. Alright, fair enough. I just think they could’ve done something better with the execution of the film. And I remember the second half. It just wasn’t enough to prove its existence. Having the girl die meant nothing and it only lowered the stakes in the movie. The original was so tragic when 3-year-old Gage died. Bottom line, I think we both agree that the movie isn’t very good.
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Post by moviemouth on Apr 4, 2020 2:44:09 GMT
Yeah, but that doesn't constitute remake though. Obviously if 2 movies are based on the same book they are going to be very similar unless the movie is drastically different from the book. The second half of the 2019 movie is drastically different from the 1989 movie and the book. Maybe you just don't remember. Then there are just very strange changes such as the 3 year old son who dies is now a 6 year old girl. One of my biggest issue with the remake is that it chanages the Indian Burial ground from a subtle but creepy native burial ground to looking like they walked onto the set of LOTR. The creepiness is very in your face in the remake, which actually has the opposite effect. Alright, fair enough. I just think they could’ve done something better with the execution of the film. And I remember the second half. It just wasn’t enough to prove its existence. Having the girl die meant nothing and it only lowered the stakes in the movie. The original was so tragic when 3-year-old Gage died. Bottom line, I think we both agree that the movie isn’t very good.We certainly agree about that.
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