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Post by msdemos on Apr 6, 2020 19:14:26 GMT
Back when I was a kid (MANY years ago!), most people, outside of young children, generally rode their bicycles in the streets. Occasionally you would see older people riding their bikes on the sidewalk, but often times that would only be when accompanying smaller kids who were also riding their bikes. Lately, I've happened to notice that this 'convention' seems now to have flipped. In other words, it's the exception to see somebody riding their bicycle in the streets. More times than not, whether the riders are young or old, people seem to be riding their bikes on the sidewalks more often than in the street. Anybody else happen to notice this, and if so, have any idea when, and WHY this change seems to have taken place ?? SAVE FERRIS
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Post by shannondegroot on Apr 6, 2020 19:29:38 GMT
I see more riders in the street.
I personally would like to see more people riding on the sidewalk, not when I'm riding on it ofcouse.
I usually try to ride on the sidewalk and when I do have to ride in the street I ride on the side that's against traffic.
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Post by Pep Streebeck on Apr 6, 2020 20:07:02 GMT
I cannot stand bike riders. I used to have a dog and I walked him on the sidewalk. I would have adults and teenagers in my neighborhood cruising down the sidewalk on their bike and not even get out of the way. I've almost been hit and so has my dog. And they are no better on the street. I live in a neighborhood with streets in a grid fashion, so there are a good number of stop signs at the end of every block. Of which, bike riders never adhere to. It's one thing to slow down and if there are no cars just go through it - but these people just blow through stop signs with some imaginary "bikes have the right of way" rule in their mind. I've been at a stop sign about to make a right turn onto my street, and some bike rider goes flying through the intersection on the inside, just to the right of my passenger side. He would have mangled my car, his bike, and went flying off his bike.
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Post by OrsonSwelles on Apr 6, 2020 20:14:15 GMT
I see more riders in the street. I personally would like to see more people riding on the sidewalk, not when I'm riding on it ofcouse. I usually try to ride on the sidewalk and when I do have to ride in the street I ride on the side that's against traffic. Riding on the sidewalk is dangerous to pedestrians and riding against traffic is dangerous to cyclists. You're a double danger and shouldn't be allowed on a bike.
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Post by Stammerhead on Apr 6, 2020 20:17:14 GMT
Back when I was a kid (MANY years ago!), most people, outside of young children, generally rode their bicycles in the streets. Occasionally you would see older people riding their bikes on the sidewalk, but often times that would only be when accompanying smaller kids who were also riding their bikes. Lately, I've happened to notice that this 'convention' seems now to have flipped. In other words, it's the exception to see somebody riding their bicycle in the streets. More times than not, whether the riders are young or old, people seem to be riding their bikes on the sidewalks more often than in the street. Anybody else happen to notice this, and if so, have any idea when, and WHY this change seems to have taken place ?? People who ride on pavements are bad enough but I’d love to see those who travel at full speed hit a wall.
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Post by Catman on Apr 6, 2020 20:20:42 GMT
The only bike riders Catman sees on sidewalks are children riding bikes with training wheels while their parents walk alongside.
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Post by OrsonSwelles on Apr 6, 2020 20:42:49 GMT
I cannot stand bike riders. I used to have a dog and I walked him on the sidewalk. I would have adults and teenagers in my neighborhood cruising down the sidewalk on their bike and not even get out of the way. I've almost been hit and so has my dog. And they are no better on the street. I live in a neighborhood with streets in a grid fashion, so there are a good number of stop signs at the end of every block. Of which, bike riders never adhere to. It's one thing to slow down and if there are no cars just go through it - but these people just blow through stop signs with some imaginary "bikes have the right of way" rule in their mind. I've been at a stop sign about to make a right turn onto my street, and some bike rider goes flying through the intersection on the inside, just to the right of my passenger side. He would have mangled my car, his bike, and went flying off his bike. Isn't it against the law for cyclists to ride on sidewalks where you live? I assume you had your right turn signal on and had passed the cyclist with enough time and space to allow the cyclist to realize you were going to turn right, in which case the cyclist should have stopped and allowed you to turn or passed you on the left.
Btw what you say can be turned around. How often when I'm on my bike have I come across people walking dogs off leash so that they're running in the way all over park paths or give their dog too long a lead that gives them no control over their dog? A dog should be within reaching distance when other people are around.
Lots of times I've seen cars not come to a complete stop or roll right through stop signs and a car is a lot bigger and can cause more damage than a guy on a bike. If I was walking I'd be more worried about a car going through a stop than a biker. Also, how often do I have a car pass me and try a turn right in front of me? Did they not see me when they went by or realize I'm moving in the same direction and therefore I'm not still 'back there' where you passed me but just behind you still moving at full speed while you've slowed down to make your turn?
A rule of thumb when making right turns is you pull as far right as possible to make your turn so the cyclist doesn't have space to pass you on the inside (which he shouldn't be doing anyway if he was aware of his own safety) and if he doesn't like it then the cyclist is an idiot.
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Post by msdemos on Apr 6, 2020 20:44:06 GMT
Back when I was a kid (MANY years ago!), most people, outside of young children, generally rode their bicycles in the streets. Occasionally you would see older people riding their bikes on the sidewalk, but often times that would only be when accompanying smaller kids who were also riding their bikes. Lately, I've happened to notice that this 'convention' seems now to have flipped. In other words, it's the exception to see somebody riding their bicycle in the streets. More times than not, whether the riders are young or old, people seem to be riding their bikes on the sidewalks more often than in the street. Anybody else happen to notice this, and if so, have any idea when, and WHY this change seems to have taken place ?? People who ride on pavements are bad enough but I’d love to see those who travel at full speed hit a wall. This is incredible! What strikes me about this (other than the bike rider him(?)self) is the pooch !! How is it that this dog is SO nonchalant about this bike rider CRASHING into his 'area' ?? He doesn't even get up (in fact, barely lifts his/her head!) !! LOVE IT !! SAVE FERRIS
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Post by ProjectError on Apr 6, 2020 20:46:50 GMT
Technically it's illegal to ride them on the sidewalk.
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Post by Pep Streebeck on Apr 6, 2020 20:51:24 GMT
I cannot stand bike riders. I used to have a dog and I walked him on the sidewalk. I would have adults and teenagers in my neighborhood cruising down the sidewalk on their bike and not even get out of the way. I've almost been hit and so has my dog. And they are no better on the street. I live in a neighborhood with streets in a grid fashion, so there are a good number of stop signs at the end of every block. Of which, bike riders never adhere to. It's one thing to slow down and if there are no cars just go through it - but these people just blow through stop signs with some imaginary "bikes have the right of way" rule in their mind. I've been at a stop sign about to make a right turn onto my street, and some bike rider goes flying through the intersection on the inside, just to the right of my passenger side. He would have mangled my car, his bike, and went flying off his bike. Isn't it against the law for cyclists to ride on sidewalks where you live? I assume you had your right turn signal on and had passed the cyclist with enough time and space to allow the cyclist to realize you were going to turn right, in which case the cyclist should have stopped and allowed you to turn or passed you on the left.
Btw what you say can be turned around. How often when I'm on my bike have I come across people walking dogs off leash so that they're running in the way all over park paths or give their dog too long a lead that gives them no control over their dog? A dog should be within reaching distance when other people are around.
Lots of times I've seen cars not come to a complete stop or roll right through stop signs and a car is a lot bigger and can cause more damage than a guy on a bike. If I was walking I'd be more worried about a car going through a stop than a biker. Also, how often do I have a car pass me and try a turn right in front of me? Did they not see me when they went by or realize I'm moving in the same direction and therefore I'm not still 'back there' where you passed me but just behind you still moving at full speed while you've slowed down to make your turn?
A rule of thumb when making right turns is you pull as far right as possible to make your turn so the cyclist doesn't have space to pass you on the inside (which he shouldn't be doing anyway if he was aware of his own safety) and if he doesn't like it then the cyclist is an idiot.
Dog is on a leash, and walking right next to me, like 2 ft. away. And turning right with my signal on, after coming to a complete stop - see some bike rider cruise right in front of my car narrowly missing the front corner. Had I not used my turn signal, like I always do - the guy still shouldn't be blowing through stop signs.
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Post by shannondegroot on Apr 6, 2020 20:51:40 GMT
I see more riders in the street. I personally would like to see more people riding on the sidewalk, not when I'm riding on it ofcouse. I usually try to ride on the sidewalk and when I do have to ride in the street I ride on the side that's against traffic. Riding on the sidewalk is dangerous to pedestrians and riding against traffic is dangerous to cyclists. You're a double danger and shouldn't be allowed on a bike. I have to ride against traffic because I wear headphones.
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Post by divtal on Apr 6, 2020 21:35:06 GMT
I haven't noticed that, but that is likely because the street that parallels mine, one block to the north, has a well established bike lane that dates back to the early 70's. Cyclists tend to use that street out of long established habit.
My street is more of a major artery. While "everyday" automobile use is down to a trickle, delivery trucks, and emergency vehicles still use it. Most of the bicycles on this street are on the sidewalks, but ridden by little kiddos, with Mom 'n Dad walking nearby.
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Post by ProjectError on Apr 7, 2020 0:54:50 GMT
I see more riders in the street. I personally would like to see more people riding on the sidewalk, not when I'm riding on it ofcouse. I usually try to ride on the sidewalk and when I do have to ride in the street I ride on the side that's against traffic. Riding on the sidewalk is dangerous to pedestrians and riding against traffic is dangerous to cyclists. You're a double danger and shouldn't be allowed on a bike. I've always thought it made for sense for a bicyclist to ride against the traffic, because he can see the oncoming cars, and ride to avoid them. If not, then you're putting your complete trust in cars behind you to see you. Which, in any other circumstance would be fine except if they hit you, you die. If a bicyclist and vehicle collide, whether the driver of the car's mistake or not, it's the bicyclist that takes the worst of the impact, so the bicyclist should be the one to take the precautionary measures.
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Post by OrsonSwelles on Apr 7, 2020 13:00:38 GMT
Riding on the sidewalk is dangerous to pedestrians and riding against traffic is dangerous to cyclists. You're a double danger and shouldn't be allowed on a bike. I have to ride against traffic because I wear headphones. Why does that matter? You're still on the wrong side of the road.
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Post by theravenking on Apr 7, 2020 14:09:18 GMT
I cannot stand bike riders. I used to have a dog and I walked him on the sidewalk. I would have adults and teenagers in my neighborhood cruising down the sidewalk on their bike and not even get out of the way. I've almost been hit and so has my dog. And they are no better on the street. I live in a neighborhood with streets in a grid fashion, so there are a good number of stop signs at the end of every block. Of which, bike riders never adhere to. It's one thing to slow down and if there are no cars just go through it - but these people just blow through stop signs with some imaginary "bikes have the right of way" rule in their mind. I've been at a stop sign about to make a right turn onto my street, and some bike rider goes flying through the intersection on the inside, just to the right of my passenger side. He would have mangled my car, his bike, and went flying off his bike. Sadly I keep seeing this behaviour all the time where I live. Bike riders often use the sidewalk and if they use the street they often ignore street signs and even red lights. As a pedestrian I've been almost knocked down several times by a bike coming up behind me on the sidewalk. I think this whole environmental green movement has made things a lot worse. Bicycle riders are so full of themselves. It's this philosophy: "I'm using a bike, so I'm saving the climate, therefore I don't have to obey any rules" - which really makes me angry.
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Post by twothousandonemark on Apr 7, 2020 17:21:30 GMT
I think kids under 11 should ride on sidewalks, yet everyone else on the street. Besides, sidewalks can be a pain to ride because not consistently smoothed, oncoming pedestrians slow you down, & blind spots from parked driveway cars.
Anyways, cyclists don't even stop for stop signs, even when they've been set up for their own designated bike lanes in downtown settings... & often that's competing with walking pedestrians (adjacent walking zones - though shared intersection design). The cyclists become to walkers as cars become to cyclists.
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Post by shannondegroot on Apr 7, 2020 18:58:13 GMT
I have to ride against traffic because I wear headphones. Why does that matter? You're still on the wrong side of the road. It would matter, I wouldn't be able to hear the car honking behind me.
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Post by OrsonSwelles on Apr 7, 2020 19:35:53 GMT
Why does that matter? You're still on the wrong side of the road. It would matter, I wouldn't be able to hear the car honking behind me. Are you saying you can hear a car honking when it's coming towards you but not when it's behind you? Why would the car be honking anyway and why would you need to hear it even if it is?
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Post by shannondegroot on Apr 7, 2020 19:53:59 GMT
It would matter, I wouldn't be able to hear the car honking behind me. Are you saying you can hear a car honking when it's coming towards you but not when it's behind you? Why would the car be honking anyway and why would you need to hear it even if it is? If I can see the car coming toward me I don't need to hear the honk. I ride close to the side of the road, not in the middle, if I can't use the sidewalk because people are on it or their is no sidewalk to be ridden on. If a car was behind me going in the same direction as me and didn't honk, since I ride close to the side of the road, I might get hit by it as it is passing me. I ride on the side of the road of oncoming traffic so the cars can clearly see me as they are driving towards me, and I can pause or maneuver the bike to stay out of harms way. I feel it's dangerous and annoying to the car drivers to ride a bike in the street so I choose the sidewalk. Which are usually empty, except during this Coronavirus we have going on.
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Post by Admin on Apr 7, 2020 20:01:32 GMT
I feel it's dangerous and annoying to the car drivers to ride a bike in the street so I choose the sidewalk. Which are usually empty, except during this Coronavirus we have going on. Your streets are usually empty except when they should be? How odd.
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