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Post by general313 on Apr 23, 2020 23:14:55 GMT
while crossing the Alps with his army to attack the Roman Republic, how would today's world be different? It's likely that if he had the siege engines he would have been able to capture Rome and thus given the Carthaginians a complete victory in the Second Punic War, and put the Romans out of business.
For one thing, we wouldn't be using Roman letters in the posts on this forum, but possibly some kind of Phoenician alphabet.
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Post by Feologild Oakes on Apr 24, 2020 1:24:53 GMT
The Romans would probably have won in the end anyway.
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Post by Winter_King on Apr 24, 2020 13:11:08 GMT
It is unlikely that he could've taken Rome. Rome was still defended by at least two legions after the battle of Cannae and pretty much all the male population in the city. There is also the issue of logistics. He barely received any support from Carthage.
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Post by politicidal on Apr 24, 2020 16:19:46 GMT
The Romans would probably have won in the end anyway. Indeed.
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Apr 24, 2020 19:27:27 GMT
The Romans would probably have won in the end anyway. No doubt. Any nation that could take drubbings like Trebbia, Lake Trasimene and Cannae and ask for more is unbeatable. You have to wonder what was going through Hannibal's mind. "Good grief, I wiped the floor with them three times and they are still fighting."
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Post by Winter_King on Apr 24, 2020 22:44:27 GMT
The Romans would probably have won in the end anyway. No doubt. Any nation that could take drubbings like Trebbia, Lake Trasimene and Cannae and ask for more is unbeatable. You have to wonder what was going through Hannibal's mind. "Good grief, I wiped the floor with them three times and they are still fighting."
Phyrrus of Epirus learned that lession: "If we are victorious in one more battle with the Romans, we shall be utterly ruined."
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Post by general313 on Apr 25, 2020 0:52:01 GMT
It is unlikely that he could've taken Rome. Rome was still defended by at least two legions after the battle of Cannae and pretty much all the male population in the city. There is also the issue of logistics. He barely received any support from Carthage. The main reason the Romans held on and eventually recovered was that they carefully avoided direct military engagements with Hannibal's army, after the complete anniliation of the Roman armies at Cannae. If Hannibal had been able to attack Rome directly they may not have been able to keep to that plan.
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Post by Winter_King on Apr 25, 2020 1:03:33 GMT
It is unlikely that he could've taken Rome. Rome was still defended by at least two legions after the battle of Cannae and pretty much all the male population in the city. There is also the issue of logistics. He barely received any support from Carthage. The main reason the Romans held on and eventually recovered was that they carefully avoided direct military engagements with Hannibal's army, after the complete anniliation of the Roman armies at Cannae. If Hannibal had been able to attack Rome directly they may not have been able to keep to that plan. True but while they kept Hannibal stuck in a stalemate in Italy, they went and attacked Carthaginian colonies in Hispania and eventually Africa so they forced Hannibal to abandon Italy. They also fought the Macedonians in Greece at the same time and prevented them from assisting Hanniba.l They cleary had more manpower and sieges were always dificult even with siege equipament. A city as large as Rome, even more so. In fact Hannibal attempted to conquer the town of Nola three times and he failed. Maybe with the direct support from Carthage and even that was a challenge.
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Post by Morgana on May 16, 2020 11:14:43 GMT
Hannibal should never have tried to take his men and his elephants, etc. over the mountains in winter. That was a big mistake.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on May 16, 2020 12:12:08 GMT
while crossing the Alps with his army to attack the Roman Republic, how would today's world be different? It's likely that if he had the siege engines he would have been able to capture Rome and thus given the Carthaginians a complete victory in the Second Punic War, and put the Romans out of business. For one thing, we wouldn't be using Roman letters in the posts on this forum, but possibly some kind of Phoenician alphabet. I've read that the Phoenician religion was atypical in that it had no belief in an afterlife. Food for thought. 
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Post by sadsaak on May 17, 2020 15:09:47 GMT
while crossing the Alps with his army to attack the Roman Republic, how would today's world be different? It's likely that if he had the siege engines he would have been able to capture Rome and thus given the Carthaginians a complete victory in the Second Punic War, and put the Romans out of business. For one thing, we wouldn't be using Roman letters in the posts on this forum, but possibly some kind of Phoenician alphabet. Did Hannibal try to bring siege engines across the Alps? I thought that armies of that period built them in situ.
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