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Post by Prime etc. on Apr 29, 2020 15:19:35 GMT
If you go by actions you would see that most what you call globalism is actually about having a larger market and cheaper labour. It has nothing to do with the common ownership of the means of production which is what communism is. So it's actually capitalism. Communists believed in cheap labor too.
The way globalists and communists think alike:
Communist leadership believes in centralized control and lack of public accountability
Globalists do as well.
Communists believe in centralized media and censor opponents
Globalists do as well.
Communists oppose the idea of independent nation states.
Globalists do as well.
Communists seek a monoculture--eliminating cultural distinctions
Globalism does also.
The fact that globalists use the label of capitalism is just Lenin's edict about becoming the opposition. The false choice of "Marx or money" as an Irish nationalist leader wisely pointed out recently.
Capitalism on an international scale-globalism, is just communism under a different name. It is the actions that matter, not the label.
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Post by Prime etc. on Apr 29, 2020 15:20:25 GMT
what the fucks going on within these parts. Nothing of import. Which can be said of every other board.
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Post by hi224 on Apr 29, 2020 15:20:51 GMT
what the fucks going on within these parts. Nothing of import. possibly most batshit crazy thread perhaps?.
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Post by politicidal on Apr 29, 2020 15:22:03 GMT
possibly most batshit crazy thread perhaps?. Young grasshopper, this is just an appetizer.
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Post by hi224 on Apr 29, 2020 15:24:13 GMT
possibly most batshit crazy thread perhaps?. Young grasshopper, this is just an appetizer. you watch bad education.
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Post by politicidal on Apr 29, 2020 15:28:33 GMT
Young grasshopper, this is just an appetizer. you watch bad education. No, but I intend to! I hadn't even heard of it until the hype started rolling.
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Post by Winter_King on Apr 29, 2020 15:38:59 GMT
If you go by actions you would see that most what you call globalism is actually about having a larger market and cheaper labour. It has nothing to do with the common ownership of the means of production which is what communism is. So it's actually capitalism. Communists believed in cheap labor too.
The way globalists and communists think alike:
Communist leadership believes in centralized control and lack of public accountability
Globalists do as well.
Communists believe in centralized media and censor opponents
Globalists do as well.
Communists oppose the idea of independent nation states.
Globalists do as well.
Communists seek a monoculture--eliminating cultural distinctions
Globalism does also.
The fact that globalists use the label of capitalism is just Lenin's edict about becoming the opposition. The false choice of "Marx or money" as an Irish nationalist leader wisely pointed out recently.
Capitalism on an international scale-globalism, is just communism under a different name. It is the actions that matter, not the label.
The way globalists and fascists nazis think alike: Nazis/fascist leadership believes in centralized control and lack of public accountability Nazis/fascist believe in centralized media and censor opponents Nazis/fascists l oppose the idea of independent nation states as they believe in territorial expansion and conquest Nationalists/Nazis/Fascists seek a monoculture. Eliminating multiculturalism is one of their goals Nazis/Fascists also believe in cheap labor since they often used slave labour. Well since were going by the actions it seems that there is not distinction. Bottom line if they want to maximise the profits, private capital and investiment they are capitalists. You are just conflating gloablization with communism which is ridiculous. Words have meanings. The Unite States is not a communist country and Hollywood is mainly run for profit. Capitalists to the bone.
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Post by hi224 on Apr 29, 2020 15:43:15 GMT
Young grasshopper, this is just an appetizer. you watch bad education. its quite good but could've used an additional 15-30 minutes.
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Post by Prime etc. on Apr 29, 2020 16:06:08 GMT
The way globalists and fascists nazis think alike: Nazis/fascist leadership believes in centralized control and lack of public accountability Nazis/fascist believe in centralized media and censor opponents Nazis/fascists l oppose the idea of independent nation states as they believe in territorial expansion and conquest Nationalists/Nazis/Fascists seek a monoculture. Eliminating multiculturalism is one of their goals Nazis/Fascists also believe in cheap labor since they often used slave labour. Well since were going by the actions it seems that there is not distinction. Bottom line if they want to maximise the profits, private capital and investiment they are capitalists. You are just conflating gloablization with communism which is ridiculous. Words have meanings. The Unite States is not a communist country and Hollywood is mainly run for profit. Capitalists to the bone.
In a fascist society, ideologically speaking, the government puts the interests of the majority ethnic tribe first.
In a globalist or communist society, they put the interests of the majority ethnic tribe LAST.
A monoculture is where you erase all distinctions between ethnic groups and have a one-size-fits all culture. As I pointed out with the Circus film made by the USSR. You can easily check the lists of films made by the Third Reich to compare. They were making films that focused on German issues, interests. Just like Akira Kurosawa made a film about the Samurai. The communist globalist approach would be to throw in some Africans and make one of them Shogun.
Communist societies lock people inside--the Iron Curtain. Hitler's Germany allowed people to emigrate. That's some difference.
What's the difference between fascist gun laws and communist gun laws. In a fascist state, the majority is allowed to have guns, it is dangerous treacherous minority groups that seek to attack the society that are banned from having guns. In the USSR it was the opposite. The public was banned from having guns after the war ended, but the party officials (minority) were allowed to have them. Just as we see with Democrat policies on guns.
If you were right about the US not being a communist country, there would be a celebration of European history and heritage in the country-instead it is attacked constantly by the Globalist media.
Tucker Carlson made an amusing observation when he was debating one of those multiculturalist Young Turks (the one who was in a scandal recently-Cenk-whatever-abusing workers or something very typical of communist apparatchiks). He pointed out that globaists had convinced young people that they were social activists while at the same time, they were working for transnational corporations! They couldn't see that taking a low wage job by companies that preach multiculturalism and tolerance.
You still haven't proven how Hollywood is run by profit when it is so committed to communist ideology and multiculturalism. It is committed to centralized control and an anti-European platform.
Here's a former KGB agent discussing how the US was being taken over by communism in the 1980s:
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Post by Winter_King on Apr 29, 2020 16:19:13 GMT
The way globalists and fascists nazis think alike: Nazis/fascist leadership believes in centralized control and lack of public accountability Nazis/fascist believe in centralized media and censor opponents Nazis/fascists l oppose the idea of independent nation states as they believe in territorial expansion and conquest Nationalists/Nazis/Fascists seek a monoculture. Eliminating multiculturalism is one of their goals Nazis/Fascists also believe in cheap labor since they often used slave labour. Well since were going by the actions it seems that there is not distinction. Bottom line if they want to maximise the profits, private capital and investiment they are capitalists. You are just conflating gloablization with communism which is ridiculous. Words have meanings. The Unite States is not a communist country and Hollywood is mainly run for profit. Capitalists to the bone.
In a fascist society, ideologically speaking, the government puts the interests of the majority ethnic tribe first.
In a globalist or communist society, they put the interests of the majority ethnic tribe LAST.
A monoculture is where you erase all distinctions between ethnic groups and have a one-size-fits all culture. As I pointed out with the Circus film made by the USSR. You can easily check the lists of films made by the Third Reich to compare. They were making films that focused on German issues, interests. Just like Akira Kurosawa made a film about the Samurai. The communist globalist approach would be to throw in some Africans and make one of them Shogun.
Communist societies lock people inside--the Iron Curtain. Hitler's Germany allowed people to emigrate. That's some difference.
What's the difference between fascist gun laws and communist gun laws. In a fascist state, the majority is allowed to have guns, it is dangerous treacherous minority groups that seek to attack the society that are banned from having guns. In the USSR it was the opposite. The public was banned from having guns after the war ended, but the party officials (minority) were allowed to have them. Just as we see with Democrat policies on guns.
If you were right about the US not being a communist country, there would be a celebration of European history and heritage in the country-instead it is attacked constantly by the Globalist media.
Tucker Carlson made an amusing observation when he was debating one of those multiculturalist Young Turks (the one who was in a scandal recently-Cenk-whatever-abusing workers or something very typical of communist apparatchiks). He pointed out that globaists had convinced young people that they were social activists while at the same time, they were working for transnational corporations! They couldn't see that taking a low wage job by companies that preach multiculturalism and tolerance.
You still haven't proven how Hollywood is run by profit when it is so committed to communist ideology and multiculturalism. It is committed to centralized control and an anti-European platform.
Here's a former KGB agent discussing how the US was being taken over by communism in the 1980s:
Yeah just like communism puts the good of the workers first or so they say. Tell me is North Korea communist? After all there is no multicultarism there. It's not a multiracial society. Borders are extremely closed to the outside world so virtually no illegal immigration. The key difference between communism and capitalism is the economy. You keep conflating communism with globalization so I'll stop arguing this. For me saying that the US is communist makes the same amount of sense that saying that the US is a monarchy. The US doesn't have a command economy. The Soviet Union had. Most the means of production are privatized. The Soviet Union had state ownership of the means of production. It has a market driven economy. The profits are usually kept private instead of socialized. FFS the US is capitalist even in areas that have shown that free market doesn't work that well like healthcare. Sorry, you're telling me that the US became communist during one the most anti communist administrations and the US started moving away from the New Deal into the neo liberal order we're still seeing today? That KGB agent is dead wrong.
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Post by Prime etc. on Apr 29, 2020 16:51:16 GMT
Yeah just like communism puts the good of the workers first or so they say. Tell me is North Korea communist? After all there is no multicultarism there. It's not a multiracial society. Borders are extremely closed to the outside world so virtually no illegal immigration. The key difference between communism and capitalism is the economy. You keep conflating communism with globalization so I'll stop arguing this. For me saying that the US is communist makes the same amount of sense that saying that the US is a monarchy. The US doesn't have a command economy. The Soviet Union had. Most the means of production are privatized. The Soviet Union had state ownership of the means of production. It has a market driven economy. The profits are usually kept private instead of socialized. FFS the US is capitalist even in areas that have shown that free market doesn't work that well like healthcare. Sorry, you're telling me that the US became communist during one the most anti communist administrations and the US started moving away from the New Deal into the neo liberal order we're still seeing today? That KGB agent is dead wrong. The US was founded mainly by English-German people. There are not even Italian names in the signing of the US constitution. These days, how many Germanic-English people make decisions in the US? WASPs no longer control the US. That's a significant change. The Democrats won't even run a young white heterosexual male as a presidential candidate anymore. Bezmenov was right. Look at the fury from the globalist communist media about Trump-they openly said white people in the US needed to die--this sort of rhetoric was used in 1917 Russia. One of the current owners of Google lived in Soviet Russia-his family had a 3 bedroom apartment in Moscow-that meant he was favored by the party.
Just as in the Soviet Union, ethnic Russians lost control (Solzhenitsyn said he lamented that in the West people assumed Russians created communism. The "White Russian" group was fighting the Bolsheviks).
Fascism as an ideology does believe in a strict control--it has to do with the idea that the strong must govern otherwise the society will get weak and ill (which, um I think certainly can be demonstrated in many Western countries). The fact that the Uk is pushing Pakistanis as senior government officials is a TOTAL COMMIE MOVE. Especially when you had a scandal for 30 years where they were exploiting the natives in white slavery rings which was claimed to be ignored because of fears of appearing racist. The fear of appearing racist is communist ideology (like the USSR making a film about racial tolerance while it was starving millions in the Ukraine). Warped moral standards.
The best we can say is they mean well but they are too stupid to see the moral problems with their policies.
I have only seen one Third Reich-era film--Munchhausen. I was shocked that it had a character based on Hitler and the main character said he didn't like him or his policies (whether the original film release had that line is an open question but the fact that they could make that film without being sent to a gulag is a big difference between them and the USSR-where you would be killed or sent to a re-education camp for defying the minority-focused government). I haven't seen enough of their films to judge how well made they are, but I know that they were less political than Soviet films which believed art had to constantly preach a political ideology (just as we see with Hollywood of today).
BTW here's another classic example of Soviet lying--they blamed this massacre on the Germans too:
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Apr 29, 2020 17:06:15 GMT
Another WW2 Anti-German Slander Goes Up in SmokeI really hope this isn't going to be the lead-in to some type of Holocaust denial agitprop. I don't have to go any further to know it is. I know the poster
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Post by Winter_King on Apr 29, 2020 17:11:09 GMT
Yeah just like communism puts the good of the workers first or so they say. Tell me is North Korea communist? After all there is no multicultarism there. It's not a multiracial society. Borders are extremely closed to the outside world so virtually no illegal immigration. The key difference between communism and capitalism is the economy. You keep conflating communism with globalization so I'll stop arguing this. For me saying that the US is communist makes the same amount of sense that saying that the US is a monarchy. The US doesn't have a command economy. The Soviet Union had. Most the means of production are privatized. The Soviet Union had state ownership of the means of production. It has a market driven economy. The profits are usually kept private instead of socialized. FFS the US is capitalist even in areas that have shown that free market doesn't work that well like healthcare. Sorry, you're telling me that the US became communist during one the most anti communist administrations and the US started moving away from the New Deal into the neo liberal order we're still seeing today? That KGB agent is dead wrong. The US was founded mainly by English-German people. There are not even Italian names in the signing of the US constitution. These days, how many Germanic-English people make decisions in the US? WASPs no longer control the US. That's a significant change. The Democrats won't even run a young white heterosexual male as a presidential candidate anymore. Bezmenov was right. Look at the fury from the globalist communist media about Trump-they openly said white people in the US needed to die--this sort of rhetoric was used in 1917 Russia. One of the current owners of Google lived in Soviet Russia-his family had a 3 bedroom apartment in Moscow-that meant he was favored by the party.
Nothing about that has anything to do with communism. Does the US has a command economy? No. Are the means of production in the US state owned? No. Ergo not communist.
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Post by Prime etc. on Apr 29, 2020 17:15:51 GMT
Nothing about that has anything to do with communism. Does the US has a command economy? No. Are the means of production in the US state owned? No. Ergo not communist. It does-because communism is about suppressing ethnic tribal interests. You are drinking the kool-aid on what communists claim it is about. Communist ideology is just a window-dressing for suckers. That's why they have party officials living better than the public they claim are their brothers. Sanders owns four houses while he preaches about equality. It's "do as I say, not as I do."
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Post by Prime etc. on Apr 29, 2020 17:23:24 GMT
About North Korea--I don't know much about its internal policies but I think Asian countries (outside Japan anyway) do tend to lack individualism in general and communist control policies seem to stick better. Free speech is very much a western trait--not an Asian one. This is why suppressing speech in the West is such a problem--it is biologically alien to tell people to control their opinions.
China is communist--yet it favors the Han Chinese ethnicity. But just because it puts Han Chinese over other groups, doesn't mean the government is working for the interests of Han Chinese in general. Taiwan would say they are the true government. ON THE OTHER HAND, Taiwan's native population is not Han Chinese and they are a persecuted group-so one could say that Chinese communism or rather, Chinese tribal behavior, has its own quirks. But I am not really concerned with Asian social structure--it is the West where we can see the suppression of majority interests. As the internet meme says "Asia is for Asians, Africa is for Africans, Europe is for Asians and Africans." This is the current ideological spin in the media (and it lines up with communism, not fascism!).
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Post by amyghost on Apr 29, 2020 17:25:08 GMT
Nothing about that has anything to do with communism. Does the US has a command economy? No. Are the means of production in the US state owned? No. Ergo not communist. It does-because communism is about suppressing ethnic tribal interests. You are drinking the kool-aid on what communists claim it is about. Communist ideology is just a window-dressing for suckers. That's why they have party officials living better than the public they claim are their brothers. Sanders owns four houses while he preaches about equality. It's "do as I say, not as I do."
"ethnic tribal interests"
Read no further, kiddies. Next we know, he'll be posting links to Jud Suss videos on youtube.
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Post by Prime etc. on Apr 29, 2020 18:12:10 GMT
"ethnic tribal interests"
Read no further, kiddies. Next we know, he'll be posting links to Jud Suss videos on youtube. Eye roll. Jews have tribal interests--they jsut don't believe others should have them. Chuck Schumer said he believes Israel should have guns and a border wall-he does not believe the US should. That is double standards born of tribal interests. Solzhenitsyn said Jews were responsible for communism. Pfft--what did he know right?
This is why claims of equality are BS--those that push equality dogma don't believe it themselves. The media says they believe in equality yet the others of the 5 big media companies all qualify for emigration to Israel. lol At the end of the day all we have is a series of clashes born born biology and ethnic tribalism is the root of it.
Look at the Palestinians. Their ethnic nationalism is attacked--they had no role in European conflicts with jews and yet they are shot, imprisoned, because they fight against Jewish nationalism. The anti-semitism label doesn't stick because according to you, the Dalai Lama is a bigot for suggesting Europe belongs to Europeans. lol
Good luck making the label stick.
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Post by Prime etc. on Apr 29, 2020 18:18:53 GMT
At the end of the day, what it really comes down to is "my suffering is more important than yours." This philosophy is why it always falls apart--because those that preach about diversity rights and equality do not care about the suffering of others--only themselves.
I.E the Soviet atrocities swept under the carpet even though the most conservative estimates say Communists killed far more than fascists in the 20th century. Communism does not really believe in equality, it just preaches it for control tactics.
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Post by Winter_King on Apr 29, 2020 18:20:29 GMT
Nothing about that has anything to do with communism. Does the US has a command economy? No. Are the means of production in the US state owned? No. Ergo not communist. It does-because communism is about suppressing ethnic tribal interests. You are drinking the kool-aid on what communists claim it is about. Communist ideology is just a window-dressing for suckers. That's why they have party officials living better than the public they claim are their brothers. Sanders owns four houses while he preaches about equality. It's "do as I say, not as I do."
No. I'm drinking the cool aid of what dictionary says communism is instead of going with made up definitions. If you can show me how the US has a command economy in which the most of the means of production are state owned, I'll accept the conception that the US is a communist country.
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Post by Prime etc. on Apr 29, 2020 18:34:25 GMT
No. I'm drinking the cool aid of what dictionary says communism is instead of going with made up definitions. If you can show me how the US has a command economy in which the most of the means of production are state owned, I'll accept the conception that the US is a communist country. We are talking past each other. YOU think communism is a sincere well-meaning ideology. I don't. A communist or socialist type society might work on a very small scale-like a small town, but that's the same with capitalism too. A community-based business or economic structure. There's accountability. But Marxism or Communism is different. The purpose is to attack the healthiest members of a society and replace them with a hive that answers to an un-elected minority that governs without concern for majority interests.
The US is a communist-leaning country--the big trans-national corporations that manipulate the government all lean left, not right. They support open borders, forced diversity, censorship--all communist dogma. The RINOs also support open borders, forced diversity, wars against nation states. It is fact that George W Bush and his father would have been called Communists in 1960 for the things they spoke of in the late 80s-90s. You are only thinking about economics--most assessments of Communism focus on things besides money--because, as I said, an irish nationalist politician said "the false choice of Marx or Money." The talking points have been reduced to those dictated by the establishment (which is something Solzhenitsyn warned about in his 1978 Harvard address btw). There are other things to worry about besides Marx or Money. Like community health, ethics, culture...
I think its safe to say the old Russian guy knew something about Communism and how it worked-and he also said the US was swinging towards communism.
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