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Post by Prime etc. on May 1, 2020 1:22:47 GMT
The Terminator films were most likely also influenced by CYBORG 2087 (since it is probably public domain I doubt Cameron could have been subject to a lawsuit--he was vulnerable for the Harlan Ellison lawsuit because he told a reporter he "copied the idea from Outer Limits episodes." He may have been joking, but it was a dumb joke. If he had admitted he was using Cyborg 2087 as his main reference, it wouldn't have helped him probably. www.imdb.com/title/tt0060272/"In the future world of the year 2087, freedom of thought is illegal and the thoughts of the world's populations are controlled by the government. A small band of "free thinkers" send a cyborg back in time to the year 1966 to prevent a scientist from making the breakthrough that will eventually lead to the mass thought control of the future. Our time traveler soon discovers he is not alone when government agents from the future try to prevent him from carrying out his mission." Origin of The Terminator clore-214 February 2001 Let's see... Michael Rennie plays a cyborg. He is sent back in time by rebels to prevent a scientist from inventing a device that will have an impact upon the future by enslaving mankind. In turn, Rennie is being chased by agents from the future who are intent that he does not complete his mission. A woman in the present day begins to fall for Rennie. Sounds awful familiar to me. The music, as noted by the other comment, will have you rolling, it's from Saturday morning cartoons, you're almost expecting that Hanna-Barbera sound effect when someone starts running. Still, the movie has an above average cast for its low-budget.. |
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Post by moviemouth on May 1, 2020 1:27:35 GMT
Iron Man and Upgrade too and Iron Man is based on 1960's comic book. Good examples. There's so many that it's hard to remember them all. How about the mysterious stranger comes to small town western. That has been done so many times it was already old by the time Pale Rider came along.
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Post by shannondegroot on May 1, 2020 1:30:35 GMT
It basically is. But at the same time it does a pretty good job treating the audience to something fresh and well told.
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Post by gw on May 1, 2020 1:40:38 GMT
Good examples. There's so many that it's hard to remember them all. How about the mysterious stranger comes to small town western. That has been done so many times it was already old by the time Pale Rider came along. I can think of three sorts of character that could include: The good or at least more often than not moral drifter, the evil drifter, and the snake oil salesman whose product may or may not work. I am not anywhere near as familiar with Western tropes compared to sci fi ones. You would know better than me.
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Post by James on May 1, 2020 1:53:49 GMT
That never seemed to bother me, but I get what you mean. A lot of people say T3 is basically a remake of 2, while we’re on the topic. And I’m not gonna lie, it kind of is, as much as I do enjoy T3 I didn't say it bothers me. It depends on how well it does it and how similar it is to the original. Mad Max: Fury Road is a terrific action movie and my favorite movie in the franchise, but it is essentially just a reboot of the OT. T3 isn't particularly well written and it isn't well made imo. One of the greatest assets of T2 is that it uses humor effectively. T3 does not. The scene where the psychiatrist just randomly shows up for a joke is the perfect example of this. It feels more like a parody of T2. I meant that T3 doesn’t bother me. But I agree with your first paragraph. I liked the humour, or at least remember liking it. |
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Post by moviemouth on May 1, 2020 1:57:26 GMT
I didn't say it bothers me. It depends on how well it does it and how similar it is to the original. Mad Max: Fury Road is a terrific action movie and my favorite movie in the franchise, but it is essentially just a reboot of the OT. T3 isn't particularly well written and it isn't well made imo. One of the greatest assets of T2 is that it uses humor effectively. T3 does not. The scene where the psychiatrist just randomly shows up for a joke is the perfect example of this. It feels more like a parody of T2. I meant that T3 doesn’t bother me. But I agree with your first paragraph. I liked the humour, or at least remember liking it. I was pointing out that the reasons I dislike T3 have very little to do with the basic plot.
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Post by ck100 on May 1, 2020 2:01:48 GMT
I'd say no.
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Post by moviemouth on May 1, 2020 2:03:16 GMT
How about the mysterious stranger comes to small town western. That has been done so many times it was already old by the time Pale Rider came along. I can think of three sorts of character that could include: The good or at least more often than not moral drifter, the evil drifter, and the snake oil salesman whose product may or may not work. I am not anywhere near as familiar with Western tropes compared to sci fi ones. You would know better than me. I am not very familiar with classic era sci-fi movies, except for the very famous movies like The Day the Earth Stood Still and stuff like that. I have seen very few sci-fi movies made before 1970.
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Post by gw on May 1, 2020 2:26:14 GMT
I can think of three sorts of character that could include: The good or at least more often than not moral drifter, the evil drifter, and the snake oil salesman whose product may or may not work. I am not anywhere near as familiar with Western tropes compared to sci fi ones. You would know better than me. I am not very familiar with classic era sci-fi movies, except for the very famous movies like The Day the Earth Stood Still and stuff like that. I have seen very few sci-fi movies made before 1970. I haven't seen an awful lot but I've seen more sci fi than Westerns from the period probably.
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