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Post by dirtypillows on May 13, 2020 15:39:10 GMT
#4 - Joan Crawford - She was super manipulative and did it with such sarcastic glee. She was cold and monstrous. Adopted daughter Christina said that the character, Eva, was exactly like her own mother. The movie, "Queen Bee", is in itself a lot of fun.
#3 - Meryl Streep - Just a cold bitch. Maybe she's not exactly "evil" the way some of the other characters on this list, but I'm going on how I personally respond to these nasty characters. And I imagine I'll get some flak for this, but I think Streep was motivated by some feminist agenda and that rubs me the wrong way.
#2 - John Huston - Noah Cross, oh Lord. Truly vile. He raped his daughter and then tossed her aside because he considered her damaged goods. And that's just the beginning. He was a deeply scary person. And frankly, I found Huston himself physically repulsive. And you could tell he probably had horrible bad breath. Susan Tyrell, who was directed by Huston two years earlier in "Fat City" (good movie), said that Huston was a "bastard". And Miss Tyrell struck me as not having a dishonest or inauthentic bone in her body.
#1 - Louise Fletcher "Cold" is personally my vote for least favorite personality trait and NR is cold as ice. She will not let herself to actually become a human being because it's Protocol First with this mean bitch, the lives of her patients be damned. Put another way, Nurse Ratched is the ONLY movie character who elicited violent fantasies in me and my only disappointment in the movie is that she didn't get the same treatment at the hands of my hero, Randall Patrick MacMurphy, as her novelistic counterpart. I wanted to see her eyes pop out of her head in real time.
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Post by Popeye Doyle on May 13, 2020 15:54:26 GMT
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Post by Captain Spencer on May 13, 2020 15:54:35 GMT
Chris Hargensen
Laurence Olivier
Krug and the gang
Louse Fletcher
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Post by Archelaus on May 13, 2020 17:20:40 GMT
From the few selections given, I chose...
Nurse Ratched
Noah Cross
Precious's mother
Chris Hargensen
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Post by hitchcockthelegend on May 13, 2020 17:51:59 GMT
Louise Fletcher has to win this, surely!
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Post by Lux on May 13, 2020 18:10:22 GMT
Wade in the river wild which starred Meryl Streep.
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Post by dirtypillows on May 13, 2020 18:10:49 GMT
Kevin Spacey was brutal and sadistic in that movie, but more to the point, he was sarcastic and slimy and somehow this is what makes for, to me, a truly despicable villain. Hannibal Lector was just as vicious, but he had something in him that made him a little likable and so I wouldn't classify him as despicable. None of the characters on this list are remotely likable, except for Junior from LHOTL, and I wouldn't call him a villain. He was a hapless victim who was surrounded by awful,hateful killers. I actually felt very sorry for Junior. |
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Post by dirtypillows on May 13, 2020 18:22:48 GMT
From the few selections given, I chose... Nurse Ratched Noah Cross Precious's mother Chris Hargensen There are twelve selections. I'd have to spend a bit more time to have added many more and twelve seemed like a decent enough sample. But, please, share what other despicable movie villains rank high up there. |
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2020 18:32:19 GMT
#4 - Joan Crawford - She was super manipulative and did it with such sarcastic glee. She was cold and monstrous. Adopted daughter Christina said that the character, Eva, was exactly like her own mother. The movie, "Queen Bee", is in itself a lot of fun. #3 - Meryl Streep - Just a cold bitch. Maybe she's not exactly "evil" the way some of the other characters on this list, but I'm going on how I personally respond to these nasty characters. And I imagine I'll get some flak for this, but I think Streep was motivated by some feminist agenda and that rubs me the wrong way. #2 - John Huston - Noah Cross, oh Lord. Truly vile. He raped his daughter and then tossed her aside because he considered her damaged goods. And that's just the beginning. He was a deeply scary person. And frankly, I found Huston himself physically repulsive. And you could tell he probably had horrible bad breath. Susan Tyrell, who was directed by Huston two years earlier in "Fat City" (good movie), said that Huston was a "bastard". And Miss Tyrell struck me as not having a dishonest or inauthentic bone in her body. #1 - Louise Fletcher "Cold" is personally my vote for least favorite personality trait and NR is cold as ice. She will not let herself to actually become a human being because it's Protocol First with this mean bitch, the lives of her patients be damned. Put another way, Nurse Ratched is the ONLY movie character who elicited violent fantasies in me and my only disappointment in the movie is that she didn't get the same treatment at the hands of my hero, Randall Patrick MacMurphy, as her novelistic counterpart. I wanted to see her eyes pop out of her head in real time. Quite possible she was! Went off somewhere to find and free herself, comes back wanting her son, reckons she's entitled and able now while Dustin Hoffman kept the proverbial seat warm.
Yeah maybe. It would be another thing Hoffman has to overcome. Your honor I want my son, not a movement. Totally valid interpretation.
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Post by politicidal on May 13, 2020 18:36:36 GMT
Huston
Fletcher
Olivier
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Post by Prime etc. on May 13, 2020 18:55:06 GMT
I think you mean Richard Widmark not Warwick?
My vote goes for the lab assistant David Frankham in RETURN OF THE FLY
He's a real piece of work.
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Post by dirtypillows on May 13, 2020 19:43:27 GMT
I think you mean Richard Widmark not Warwick? My vote goes for the lab assistant David Frankham in RETURN OF THE FLY He's a real piece of work. Yes! Oh, Richard Widmark is definitely what I intended to put down. Thank you for pointing that out to me. Richard Warwick was a sweetheart, a doll of a man! He was one of the three boy rebels in "If...." For me, the sun rose and set on Richard Warwick. My biggest crush, no contest. |
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Post by dirtypillows on May 13, 2020 20:13:19 GMT
I'm a little surprised at just how much hate Chris Hargensen is getting, but it also pleases me as she had hurt sweet Carrie so badly.
I will say that Chris was on the receiving end of the best delivered slap in all moviedom!
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Post by marth on May 13, 2020 21:06:53 GMT
Louise Fletcher - "One Flew over the Cuckoo's Nest"
John Huston- "Chinatown"
Chris Hargensen - "Carrie"
Christopher Plummer - "Dolores Claiborne"
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Post by FridayOnElmStreet on May 13, 2020 21:37:43 GMT
1. Krug and company - "Last House on the Left"
2. Louise Fletcher - "One Flew over the Cuckoo's Nest"
3. Chris Hargensen - "Carrie"
4. Lawrence Olivier - "Marathon Man"
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Post by Archelaus on May 13, 2020 21:58:02 GMT
From the few selections given, I chose... Nurse Ratched Noah Cross Precious's mother Chris Hargensen There are twelve selections. I'd have to spend a bit more time to have added many more and twelve seemed like a decent enough sample. But, please, share what other despicable movie villains rank high up there. Nearly every villain would be considered "despicable", but I'm limiting my choices to folks with "deplorable" behaviors such as juvenile delinquents, serial killers, heads of organizations that abused their power for personal or financial gain, and people who strive to create conflict. Some would be: Amon Goeth Michael Corleone Patrick Bateman Jordan Belfort Gordon Gekko Tommy DeVito The Joker from The Dark Knight Alex DeLarge Baby Jane Hudson Judge Claude Frollo from The Hunchback of Notre DameSheev Palpatine John Doe from SevenFrank Booth
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Post by ck100 on May 13, 2020 22:30:13 GMT
I would think The Devil.
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Post by dirtypillows on May 13, 2020 22:48:57 GMT
There are twelve selections. I'd have to spend a bit more time to have added many more and twelve seemed like a decent enough sample. But, please, share what other despicable movie villains rank high up there. , but I'm limiting my choices to folks with "deplorable" behaviors such as juvenile delinquents, serial killers, heads of organizations that abused their power for personal or financial gain, and people who strive to create conflict. Some would be: Amon Goeth Michael Corleone Patrick Bateman Jordan Belfort Gordon Gekko Tommy DeVito The Joker from The Dark Knight Alex DeLarge Baby Jane Hudson Judge Claude Frollo from The Hunchback of Notre DameSheev Palpatine John Doe from SevenFrank Booth I don't see things this way. I think many, if not most, villains aren't truly despicable. Their crimes may be despicable, but most villains have a human side that can make them a bit likable. That was the criteria that I used to come up with my list. None of them were even a bit likable. I've only seen five of your own villain choices. I would say that out of those five, Patrick Bateman and John Doe were despicable. But I thought there was a decent bit of moral ambivalence in the Michael Corleone character (at least in the first one), and Al Pacino was very easy to like back in the 1970s. And I think Akex Delarge is very charismatic and I don't dislike him by any means. Finally, Baby Jane Hudson was actually a tragic character. If you consider the twist ending, it is revealed that it is actually her sister, Blanche, who is the despicable one. At least I felt that way. She laid the ultimate guilt trip on her sister, and it was because of Blanche's vindictiveness that two lives were ruined. I find Jane to be highly sympathetic, though I may be in the minority on this one. Also, neither Christian Bale nor Kevin Spacey are warm actors to begin with. |
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Post by dirtypillows on May 13, 2020 23:02:42 GMT
Well, hey, I did not think that Damien was despicable. And I thought Pazuzu was just kind of silly. Roman and especially Minnie were very likable. But you know what, and this did not even cross my mind, but Guy Woodhouse from "Rosemary's Baby" was a truly despicable villain. He wallows in his nastiness. The thing that puts Guy over the top for me is not just the fact that he sells his innocent, trusting wife to Satan, but how he is so lacking in any guilt feelings afterwards. The following morning, he even tries to make Rosemary feel guilty. "Next time, it's cocktails or wine, not cocktails and wine." And not even any pretense at regret for putting it to her when she was passed out. He even makes her get out of bed to fix him breakfast! "Eat out!" "Like Hell I will!" He throws away the book that her dead friend (her friend that Guy helped to set up) gave her. He has the gall to criticize her for getting a new haircut. And the topper is when HE TRIES TO RATIONALIZE WHAT HE DID! Guy is scum. I'm just sorry that I didn't remember to put him on the list. NR will ALWAYS be my most hated and despicable villain. Now for my number two, I don't know if it would still be Noah Cross or if it would now be Guy Woodhouse. |
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Post by maxwellperfect on May 14, 2020 0:33:00 GMT
The villain that provoked the most visceral reaction in all my years of movie-watching was Robin Wright's character in 'White Oleander.'
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