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Post by TheGoodMan19 on May 21, 2020 0:09:13 GMT
Well, I couldn't stir up much with Dugout Doug, how about Monty?
Brilliant leader of men or narcissistic overlycautious boor?
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Post by sadsaak on May 21, 2020 2:29:17 GMT
Well, I couldn't stir up much with Dugout Doug, how about Monty?
Brilliant leader of men or narcissistic overlycautious boor?
Both. Vain glorious and and self centred, but prepared to bide his time and careful with the lives of his men.
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Post by truecristian on May 21, 2020 7:54:09 GMT
My father, who served in the WW2 Royal Artillery (Italy),recommended for anyone interested in Monty and the WW2 U.K. military.
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Post by sadsaak on May 21, 2020 8:40:09 GMT
My father, who served in the WW2 Royal Artillery (Italy),recommended for anyone interested in Monty and the WW2 U.K. military. Alternatively you could ask my Uncle Ted who served under Montgomery in the Western Desert, Italy and in France and who, alone with a few of his other mates in the REME, was the bloke who actually won WWII. Ted is a bit dead right now but that won't stop him once he starts on of his yarns.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on May 22, 2020 17:27:58 GMT
Are the two mutually exclusive?
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on May 22, 2020 18:26:18 GMT
Are the two mutually exclusive? Some say he was too cautious. He poked his way across Africa after El Alamein. He poked his way up Italy. He poked his way to Caen.
George McClellan was a narcissistic overlycautious boor and NOT a brilliant leader of men
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Post by The Herald Erjen on May 23, 2020 1:58:44 GMT
Are the two mutually exclusive? Some say he was too cautious. He poked his way across Africa after El Alamein. He poked his way up Italy. He poked his way to Caen.
George McClellan was a narcissistic overlycautious boor and NOT a brilliant leader of men
After the Second Battle of El Alamein was won, Churchill apparently wanted to drag out the war as long as possible, perhaps so that the USSR would be worn down. He had the power to relieve Montgomery just as he had relieved Auchinleck earlier, but he did not. Auchinleck stopped Rommel at the First Battle of El Alamein, but he didn't demolish him like Churchill wanted. Maybe the complete elimination of the threat that Panzer Armee Afrika posed to the Suez Canal had something to do with the shift in British strategy. Yeah, too bad about McClellan, but he still has a fort named after him, which is more than I'll ever have. 
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on May 23, 2020 3:51:54 GMT
Some say he was too cautious. He poked his way across Africa after El Alamein. He poked his way up Italy. He poked his way to Caen.
George McClellan was a narcissistic overlycautious boor and NOT a brilliant leader of men
Yeah, too bad about McClellan, but he still has a fort named after him, which is more than I'll ever have. Confederate incompetents Braxton Bragg and John Bell Hood have forts/army bases named after them.
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