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Post by hi224 on May 21, 2020 2:29:23 GMT
part of my top ten right now.
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Post by BATouttaheck on May 21, 2020 2:45:58 GMT
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Post by Fox in the Snow on May 21, 2020 8:15:41 GMT
Probably top 20 for me. Rate and rank thread (with notes, I know a lot of people think these are pointless) I created a while back
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Post by amyghost on May 21, 2020 10:14:07 GMT
No way not to be. He made some amazingly memorable films.
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Post by Jep Gambardella on May 21, 2020 11:10:29 GMT
I watched “Lady of Shanghai” for the first time not long ago and didn’t like it at all - but that’s probably not his fault, as the studio apparently cut something like 50 minutes from it.
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Post by hi224 on May 21, 2020 11:55:10 GMT
I watched “Lady of Shanghai” for the first time not long ago and didn’t like it at all - but that’s probably not his fault, as the studio apparently cut something like 50 minutes from it. More perturbing was how much they cut actually from Ambersons.
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Post by petrolino on May 23, 2020 0:04:37 GMT
Amazing artist. Had his highs and lows, but don't we all.
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Post by politicidal on May 23, 2020 14:07:48 GMT
While not among my favorites, I generally like his performances when i see him.
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2020 5:18:06 GMT
I like him. I need to see more of his stuff, but I like the bits and pieces of aesthetic he has. Big doors, big buildings that make people look small. Oh my God the fireplace in Citizen Kane
I liked The Trial quite a bit too. I had a lot more to say about it when I saw it last year but it had me right from the beginning, making me feel like a very important story was about to be told and what we saw was analogous to this fable about a man being held in prison and never being told why. There's a piece of narration at the beginning that makes me think of something out of mythology, then it leaps into an urban sprawl where things aren't completely unlike a bad dream.
Other than that I've seen The Stranger and Catch 22. He's funny in the latter. I dig it. I never saw The Transformers: The Movie, but I do think it's cool Orson Welles was in that and Citizen Kane.
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Post by Fox in the Snow on May 25, 2020 3:58:55 GMT
I liked The Trial quite a bit too. One of the best depictions of dream logic I've seen in film.
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2020 4:44:40 GMT
I liked The Trial quite a bit too. One of the best depictions of dream logic I've seen in film. Same.
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Post by telegonus on May 27, 2020 9:31:54 GMT
I like Orson Welles. He did the right thing in shocking and shaking up the bourgeoisie. I don't think he did it all that well a lot of the time, but he seemed to always have genius to spare (good for him), without knowing how best to handle the gifts he had. There was something incomplete, fragmented, almost aimless about him.
His radio work often doesn't do it for me. He was gimmicky in his early Boy Wonder years, and this inhibited his growth later on. It's like he had nothing to build on. Still, there's something heroic about Orson Welles. He was declared a genius too early for the kind of artist he was; and in the end it stunted him more than it helped him develop as an artist.
At the risk of sounding glib, I think he suffered from a weird kind of PTSD of having more talent than he could ever have learned to master, and that none of this was his fault. It was more the consequence of his upbringing, what it did to his ego, his ability to function in the real world. There's much more to Welles than I could ever sum in in a paragraph, or even several paragraphs.
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2020 10:08:09 GMT
I haven't seen all of his films he's directed but I have seen most. I also like most every one I've seen. Last week I watched Mr. Arkadin for the second time. For as much as I tried I just can't get into or appreciate this film. It seemed he was trying way to hard to different and "edgy" in this movie.
As an actor I think he's above average. His Othello, Macbeth and Chimes at Midnight were spectacular and I've always loved him in Jane Eyre.
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Post by telegonus on May 28, 2020 5:11:02 GMT
I haven't seen all of his films he's directed but I have seen most. I also like most every one I've seen. Last week I watched Mr. Arkadin for the second time. For as much as I tried I just can't get into or appreciate this film. It seemed he was trying way to hard to different and "edgy" in this movie. As an actor I think he's above average. His Othello, Macbeth and Chimes at Midnight were spectacular and I've always loved him in Jane Eyre. He did seem to be trying awfully hard in his films, more so as a director than as an actor. When badly cast, he couldn't seem to get over it. He all but ruins the otherwise modestly ambitious Compulsion, though the movie itself feels self-important to me.
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Post by hi224 on May 28, 2020 14:40:36 GMT
See actually I really feel he has a magnetic screen presence.
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Post by taylorfirst1 on May 28, 2020 15:53:09 GMT
I loved his wine commercials But seriously I think he was a very talented director and deserves a lot of credit for the movies he made.
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