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Post by spooner5020 on May 30, 2020 3:10:17 GMT
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Post by moviebuffbrad on May 30, 2020 8:29:17 GMT
Well, if he's involved I hope that means the script is good or the director has a cool vision.
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Post by onethreetwo on May 30, 2020 8:33:47 GMT
Gosling can do no wrong.
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Post by spooner5020 on May 30, 2020 11:16:03 GMT
Well, if he's involved I hope that means the script is good or the director has a cool vision. It’s VERY rare Gosling has done anything bad so I wanna believe he saw something in the script he liked. I wonder if this will be a character study, similar to The Fly. I do think that could be kind of cool.
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Post by Captain Spencer on May 30, 2020 14:38:03 GMT
So they're remaking The Wolf Man again after the 2010 version flopped badly. Okay.
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Post by spooner5020 on May 30, 2020 17:25:07 GMT
So they're remaking The Wolf Man again after the 2010 version flopped badly. Okay. I actually liked the 2010 remake.
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Post by spooner5020 on May 30, 2020 20:30:50 GMT
Now I wanna know how they can make The Mummy and Creature From the Black Lagoon into a modern setting in the vein of the invisible man remake.
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Post by masterofallgoons on May 30, 2020 21:47:21 GMT
Now I wanna know how they can make The Mummy and Creature From the Black Lagoon into a modern setting in the vein of the invisible man remake. Shape of Water sorta did The Creature from the Black Lagoon. Del Toro originally conceived of it as that. I'm still interested in finding more details as to what Clive Barker and George Romero were going to do with The Mummy back in the 90s. Some of it sounded wild.
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Post by spooner5020 on May 30, 2020 22:02:19 GMT
Now I wanna know how they can make The Mummy and Creature From the Black Lagoon into a modern setting in the vein of the invisible man remake. Shape of Water sorta did The Creature from the Black Lagoon. Del Toro originally conceived of it as that. I'm still interested in finding more details as to what Clive Barker and George Romero were going to do with The Mummy back in the 90s. Some of it sounded wild. Good point about Shape Of Water, though that could have been an origin story for Abe Sapien. I KNOW!!! That sounded amazing what Barker and Romero wanted to do!! I mean don’t get me wrong I love the Fraser remake, but I’d have liked Romero’s movie to happen.
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Post by poelzig on Jun 1, 2020 1:17:16 GMT
The Invisible Man was just an excuse to show Elisabeth Moss being tortured and tormented both physically and mentally for the vast majority of the movie. If you liked that sadistic nonsense then why won't you at least wait until you know the plot of the Wolf Man movie before you shit on it?
I'm a HUGE Universal Monsters fan and Ryan Gosling is always good so I for one am very intrigued.
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Post by politicidal on Jun 1, 2020 14:01:34 GMT
So they're remaking The Wolf Man again after the 2010 version flopped badly. Okay. I actually liked the 2010 remake. Same.
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Post by masterofallgoons on Jun 1, 2020 14:20:13 GMT
Shape of Water sorta did The Creature from the Black Lagoon. Del Toro originally conceived of it as that. I'm still interested in finding more details as to what Clive Barker and George Romero were going to do with The Mummy back in the 90s. Some of it sounded wild. Good point about Shape Of Water, though that could have been an origin story for Abe Sapien. I KNOW!!! That sounded amazing what Barker and Romero wanted to do!! I mean don’t get me wrong I love the Fraser remake, but I’d have liked Romero’s movie to happen. I heard an interview with Del Toro recently where he said he had pitched a remake of The Creature from the Black Lagoon to Universal years prior that was essentially the story of The Shape of Water. He realized that Universal wasn't gonna do it so he changed some things up and made a more original take on the same plot. But his idea was that he would remake it as a love story with the Gill Man being a romantic lead of sorts in a Beauty and the Beast kinda way. There are some details out there about the Romero and Barker versions of The Mummy. Both would have been interesting, but the Barker stuff sounds so perverse and weird. I don't know how close they got to pre production, but they definitely had outlines and I think early drafts of scripts. I'm sure this still happens, but it seemes rampant at the time that studios would hire these filmmakers known for their crazy stuff and then be shocked when they'd come up with a crazy idea when they were hired to do that in the first place. I like the remake with Brendan Fraser, or at least I did when it came out (the sequels were horrible). I haven't seen it in a while, but the sorta Indiana Jones-ish approach makes sense and they got to make a family friendly monster movie. But the way to find a unique spin on this was to let someone like Clive Barker bring his weird and perverse thematic fucked-up-itude to it. They're on a better path now, it seems, where they're starting by hiring good filmmakers and it seems that they're letting them do what they want instead of saddling them with the issues that come with making a movie for a 'shared universe.' Leigh Whanell did a good job with a new, and sort of unrelated version of The Invisible Man, and I'm not sure what approach she is taking, but I'm curious about the Karyn Kusama Dracula. I loved The Invitation, so she's cool in my book. No announcement yet on who would be directing this remake of The Wolf Man, but I would think that with Ryan Gosling already on board they'll certainly have interest from name directors.
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Post by masterofallgoons on Jun 1, 2020 14:22:12 GMT
So they're remaking The Wolf Man again after the 2010 version flopped badly. Okay. I actually liked the 2010 remake. There were things about it that bothered me, but I thought that would have been a much better starting point for their 'Dark Universe thing that they were trying to do. That aesthetic and setting exemplifies what Universal Monster Movie means.
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Post by Prime etc. on Jun 1, 2020 17:54:34 GMT
The John Carpenter version of the Creature of the Black Lagoon was going to be about a ship of Creationists (led by John Agar) going down the Amazon to disprove evolution by not finding the missing link gill-man--but when they do, they decide to kill him. At the end it is discovered there's a cave containing millions of gill-man skeletons. The script was by Nigel Kneale (it sounds similar to his Abominable Snowman).
The 2010 Wolfman was better than expected but Lon Chaney casts a big shadow. They need to find someone who can have the haunted look quality that he had. Benicio Del Toro resembles Chaney somewhat but didnt convey the haunted tortured quality (I hated the "he's an actor" back story).
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Post by spooner5020 on Jun 1, 2020 18:24:36 GMT
The John Carpenter version of the Creature of the Black Lagoon was going to be about a ship of Creationists (led by John Agar) going down the Amazon to disprove evolution by not finding the missing link gill-man--but when they do, they decide to kill him. At the end it is discovered there's a cave containing millions of gill-man skeletons. The script was by Nigel Kneale (it sounds similar to his Abominable Snowman). The 2010 Wolfman was better than expected but Lon Chaney casts a big shadow. They need to find someone who can have the haunted look quality that he had. Benicio Del Toro resembles Chaney somewhat but didnt convey the haunted tortured quality (I hated the "he's an actor" back story). John Carpenter was gonna do a remake of CFTBL? ? Ughhh that’d have been really interesting!!!!
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Post by Prime etc. on Jun 1, 2020 18:31:07 GMT
In the 1990s. Rick Baker was going to do the fx.
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Post by fangirl1975 on Jun 2, 2020 1:27:39 GMT
One thing I know for sure the Gosling Wolf Man's hair will be perfect.
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Post by theravenking on Jun 2, 2020 19:51:29 GMT
Apparently it was Gosling who approached the producers because he is a fan of the character and really wanted to be in a new Wolfman movie which means he's going to take this seriously.
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Jun 2, 2020 20:02:18 GMT
I'm always up for a good werewolf movie.
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Post by spooner5020 on Jun 3, 2020 0:57:00 GMT
Good point about Shape Of Water, though that could have been an origin story for Abe Sapien. I KNOW!!! That sounded amazing what Barker and Romero wanted to do!! I mean don’t get me wrong I love the Fraser remake, but I’d have liked Romero’s movie to happen. I heard an interview with Del Toro recently where he said he had pitched a remake of The Creature from the Black Lagoon to Universal years prior that was essentially the story of The Shape of Water. He realized that Universal wasn't gonna do it so he changed some things up and made a more original take on the same plot. But his idea was that he would remake it as a love story with the Gill Man being a romantic lead of sorts in a Beauty and the Beast kinda way. There are some details out there about the Romero and Barker versions of The Mummy. Both would have been interesting, but the Barker stuff sounds so perverse and weird. I don't know how close they got to pre production, but they definitely had outlines and I think early drafts of scripts. I'm sure this still happens, but it seemes rampant at the time that studios would hire these filmmakers known for their crazy stuff and then be shocked when they'd come up with a crazy idea when they were hired to do that in the first place. I like the remake with Brendan Fraser, or at least I did when it came out (the sequels were horrible). I haven't seen it in a while, but the sorta Indiana Jones-ish approach makes sense and they got to make a family friendly monster movie. But the way to find a unique spin on this was to let someone like Clive Barker bring his weird and perverse thematic fucked-up-itude to it. They're on a better path now, it seems, where they're starting by hiring good filmmakers and it seems that they're letting them do what they want instead of saddling them with the issues that come with making a movie for a 'shared universe.' Leigh Whanell did a good job with a new, and sort of unrelated version of The Invisible Man, and I'm not sure what approach she is taking, but I'm curious about the Karyn Kusama Dracula. I loved The Invitation, so she's cool in my book. No announcement yet on who would be directing this remake of The Wolf Man, but I would think that with Ryan Gosling already on board they'll certainly have interest from name directors. Yeah after hearing that about CFTBL I’m glad he made it an original movie. I really wasn’t a huge fan of Shape Of Water in general. Definitely didn’t think it was one of Toro’s better movies and don’t understand why it won so many awards. I never saw the original, but this is how I would have done it. The Creature should be a lochness monster type deal where there’s rumors that it exists and a team goes out to search for it. It’s kind of frustrating it took so many tries to get the universe going. I didn’t even know it was supposed to start with the Wolfman remake. I thought officially Dracula Untold was where it was officially supposed to start. I’m glad it’s on the right track though. The Mummy with Tom Cruise can fuck off!!
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