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Post by dirtypillows on Jul 18, 2020 18:46:09 GMT
Does anybody really take the Academy Awards seriously?
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Post by amyghost on Jul 18, 2020 18:57:04 GMT
Does anybody really take the Academy Awards seriously? They've been irrelevant to me for decades, probably since the 1970's. Can't get myself interested in awards being given for products I mostly could care less about. |
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Post by dirtypillows on Jul 18, 2020 19:17:07 GMT
Does anybody really take the Academy Awards seriously? They've been irrelevant to me for decades, probably since the 1970's. Can't get myself interested in awards being given for products I mostly could care less about. At the very least, the 1970s telecasts were entertaining. And, personally speaking, those movie stars were so much more interesting and fun than they are now. Of course, this is on me as I do not make much of an effort of catching up on new releases. |
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Post by amyghost on Jul 18, 2020 19:23:14 GMT
They've been irrelevant to me for decades, probably since the 1970's. Can't get myself interested in awards being given for products I mostly could care less about. At the very least, the 1970s telecasts were entertaining. And, personally speaking, those movie stars were so much more interesting and fun than they are now. Of course, this is on me as I do not make much of an effort of catching up on new releases. Same here. I'm pleased when occasionally a film, or more likely these days documentary, I've enjoyed takes an Oscar, but I just can't be arsed to watch the whole bloated thing any longer. And yes--the stars of the 70's were more charismatic and entertaining to watch on award night than these interchangeable male and female poptarts of today who are mostly completely vacuous both in film roles and in their 'real' personas. |
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Post by Prime etc. on Jul 19, 2020 1:24:29 GMT
Looking at part of the telecast from 1973--this was the year when the blockbuster was around the corner.
But when you think how many movies and companies existed back then, the Oscars seems rather provincial.
Did Vincent Price ever present at the Oscars (I know he hosted an oscars related show in the early 80s)?
He was starring in movies through the 60s and early 70s.
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Post by Vits on Jul 19, 2020 10:11:31 GMT
There were no black supporting roles for 2001. I know there weren't black nominees, but surely there were black actors who could've been nominated that year. Since it didn't happen, I fail to see this agenda. I haven't seen Monster's Ball either and never will. Why? Nowhere did I say did I not like Poitier. I used the example of his inexplicable honorary Oscar as part of the variable of what is contextually transparent with the 2002 Oscar ceremony. Poitier had only starred in 4 cinematic features since the mid 70's, when he came out of semi retirement. He had not been "denied" an Oscar win and was hardly active in the industry on the visual front line for over 2 decades. He was also responsible for directing Ghost Dad. The Academy went for a black image. It's not inexplicable. They felt he had reach a point where they could look back on his career as a whole and acknowledge it. Getting what's essentially a lifetime achievement award while you're young would be weird. Sure, not every project he participated in was good, but that didn't prevent the general public from seeing him as a cinematic legend, so why would Academy voters think differently? They give out these trophies every single year, so Sidney would've gotten one eventually anyway. Also, I just double-checked and he wasn't the only recipient that year (which has become the standard practice since the 2009 ceremony). |
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Post by Vits on Jul 19, 2020 14:37:23 GMT
You would have to go through the films released that year to see if any support black acting roles were worthy of a nomination. And I'm willing to do that, just as I've double-checked everything so far. I believe in the importance of doing research when discussing topics. I don't really feel that coming from you, though. they used the lead category as a prop. Poitier fitted in well with the agenda of favouring black performers. But the other recipient wasn't white. And I'm sure there were plenty of black screen legends that were still alive in 2002. |
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Post by dirtypillows on Jul 19, 2020 16:40:41 GMT
At least she mostly quit making movies to raise her children.  Too little too late. I don't like her, either. Her big laugh is so damn fake. Most people think that Ellen Burstyn should have won the Oscar over Roberts. |
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Post by Jason143 on Jul 19, 2020 17:50:11 GMT
Yep Oscars have become too political and snobby. Movies like parasite, moonlight, Argo, Shape of water and Spotlight have no business being awarded the best picture of the year given there are more quality popular movies which will have longer lasting legacies.
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Post by loofapotato on Jul 20, 2020 21:35:04 GMT
Film is art. Acting is art. Art is subjectional. Hence awards for all art is meaningless.
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Post by dirtypillows on Jul 21, 2020 3:24:32 GMT
Is there any reason why the AA are meaningful?
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