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Post by darkpast on Aug 8, 2020 4:03:20 GMT
No Aliens, Die Hard 2-5, Fight Club, Planet OF The Apes for 4k physical format for film lovers. No Splash or Roger Rabbit on 4K either. 
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Post by MCDemuth on Aug 8, 2020 4:39:55 GMT
Then I'll be ignoring them...
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Post by darkreviewer2013 on Aug 8, 2020 5:38:55 GMT
I'm sorry to be witnessing the continuing decline of physical media, but I honestly never expected 4K discs to succeed to any significant extent. A staff member at my favourite video store told me that only about 1% of their movie sales are on 4K format. It's still mostly DVDs and Blu Rays that physical collectors are buying in my neck of the woods. Or so it would seem anyway. Perhaps people are ordering them online, but it seems clear that there's no real future in the format outside of online streaming resources.
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Post by darkpast on Aug 8, 2020 5:45:20 GMT
I'm sorry to be witnessing the continuing decline of physical media, but I honestly never expected 4K discs to succeed to any significant extent. A staff member at my favourite video store told me that only about 1% of their movie sales are on 4K format. It's still mostly DVDs and Blu Rays that physical collectors are buying in my neck of the woods. Or so it would seem anyway. Perhaps people are ordering them online, but it seems clear that there's no real future in the format outside of online streaming resources. if vinyl still exist , i think 4k can be like LaserDisc and survive with niche market if studios support it, Disney just doesn't care, cause they are assholes
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Post by darkreviewer2013 on Aug 8, 2020 5:57:02 GMT
I'm sorry to be witnessing the continuing decline of physical media, but I honestly never expected 4K discs to succeed to any significant extent. A staff member at my favourite video store told me that only about 1% of their movie sales are on 4K format. It's still mostly DVDs and Blu Rays that physical collectors are buying in my neck of the woods. Or so it would seem anyway. Perhaps people are ordering them online, but it seems clear that there's no real future in the format outside of online streaming resources. if vinyl still exist , i think 4k can be like LaserDisc and survive with niche market if studios support it, Disney just doesn't care, cause they are assholes Vinyl has a certain sentimental value to many people. Lots of folks - or at least their parents - grew up listening to records. My parents have an old vinyl collection from their youths, even though we don't have any device to play them on. 4K is still quite a new format and has never garnered anything like the mass appeal that vinyl had in its heydey. You may be right with your LaserDisc reference, but it so then future 4K disc collection with be extremely niche and probably quite difficult to amass. I should point out that I myself only upgraded to Blu Ray last summer after years of sticking with DVD. I looked into 4K, but the range of releases was too limited and the cost of discs exorbitant in my part of the world.
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Post by darkpast on Aug 8, 2020 6:01:52 GMT
if vinyl still exist , i think 4k can be like LaserDisc and survive with niche market if studios support it, Disney just doesn't care, cause they are assholes Vinyl has a certain sentimental value to many people. Lots of folks - or at least their parents - grew up listening to records. My parents have an old vinyl collection from their youths, even though we don't have any device to play them on. 4K is still quite a new format and has never garnered anything like the mass appeal that vinyl had in its heydey. You may be right with your LaserDisc reference, but it so then future 4K disc collection with be extremely niche and probably quite difficult to amass. I should point out that I myself only upgraded to Blu Ray last summer after years of sticking with DVD. I looked into 4K, but the range of releases was too limited and the cost of discs exorbitant in my part of the world. it hurts that you really need a tv bigger than 65 inches to see benefits of 4k over standard Blu-Rays
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Post by darkreviewer2013 on Aug 8, 2020 6:04:32 GMT
Vinyl has a certain sentimental value to many people. Lots of folks - or at least their parents - grew up listening to records. My parents have an old vinyl collection from their youths, even though we don't have any device to play them on. 4K is still quite a new format and has never garnered anything like the mass appeal that vinyl had in its heydey. You may be right with your LaserDisc reference, but it so then future 4K disc collection with be extremely niche and probably quite difficult to amass. I should point out that I myself only upgraded to Blu Ray last summer after years of sticking with DVD. I looked into 4K, but the range of releases was too limited and the cost of discs exorbitant in my part of the world. it hurts that you really need a tv bigger than 65 inches to see benefits of 4k over standard Blu-Rays Yeah. That's another factor. My own TV is only 35 inches and I wouldn't be able to fit anything bigger. Although I know massive TVs are common enough these days.
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Post by ck100 on Aug 8, 2020 6:08:41 GMT
it hurts that you really need a tv bigger than 65 inches to see benefits of 4k over standard Blu-Rays My family has a 50 inch 4K TV, and while 4K looks good, I personally don't think it's a night and day difference over Blu-ray like with Blu-ray over DVD. I agree that you need at least a large set, like 55 inches at least, to see any benefit of 4K over Blu-ray. I think another reason why some people aren't buying 4K are the costs of buying a 4K TV, 4K player, 4K discs of movies you already own, etc.
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Post by ck100 on Aug 8, 2020 6:13:57 GMT
I guess this also means that The Abyss and True Lies will once again be delayed for Blu-ray (no surprise there).
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Post by darkpast on Aug 8, 2020 6:15:23 GMT
I guess this also means that The Abyss and True Lies will once again be delayed for Blu-ray (no surprise there). Avatar will at least get 4k to promote Avatar 2
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Post by Anonymous Andy on Aug 8, 2020 12:04:09 GMT
I guess this also means that The Abyss and True Lies will once again be delayed for Blu-ray (no surprise there). I ponied up cash ($29) for the Spanish Blu-ray of True Lies recently and it was worth it just to see the movie again in a proper format. |
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Aug 8, 2020 12:11:49 GMT
Makes sense
There barely any money to be made in BluRay, it makes little sense to do 4k on old stuff for a loss.
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Post by theravenking on Aug 8, 2020 12:41:57 GMT
I'm a collector of physical media, but 4K is far too expensive for me. HD quality has been more than satisfying to me so far. At this point a blu-ray mediabook with tons of extras is cheaper than a 4K disc. So, unless I'm going to win the lottery, I can't really see myself upgrading to 4k in the foreseeable future.
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Post by jonesjxd on Aug 8, 2020 13:17:53 GMT
The main issue with physical media is that the players are still expensive. I looked at Amazon, and even for a blu-ray player the cheapest is $50, the cheapest UHD player is $160. I suspect the main reason DVD and blu-ray have survived is because they're compatible with the Playstation and X-Box consoles. The average demo to collect blu-ray's already had a player compatible with the disc before it even became a thing. It won't be until the launch of the new systems that the primary buying demo will have a UHD player. It doesn't help that many people will be opting for the diskless options.
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Post by janntosh on Aug 8, 2020 14:31:50 GMT
Makes sense There barely any money to be made in BluRay, it makes little sense to do 4k on old stuff for a loss. It’s not a loss. Just not. Just not making bajillions in profit like Disney wants. Sony for example is on board Remastering and releasing classic films in 4K disc |
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Post by lowtacks86 on Aug 8, 2020 14:36:01 GMT
You mean no 4k release of "Song of the South"?  |
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Post by janntosh on Aug 8, 2020 14:54:46 GMT
Disney should carve out all the properties they’re interested in from Fox, so all the kids movies, Marvel, Star Wars, etc. and then just sell off the rest of the catalog again.
They clearly have no interest in mature catalog titles, so why let them collect dust when they can make a quick buck selling it off again
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Post by onethreetwo on Aug 8, 2020 15:42:01 GMT
Disney should carve out all the properties they’re interested in from Fox, so all the kids movies, Marvel, Star Wars, etc. and then just sell off the rest of the catalog again. They clearly have no interest in mature catalog titles, so why let them collect dust when they can make a quick buck selling it off again The real money is in having a giant catalogue. There's no way they sell anything imo. |
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Post by lowtacks86 on Aug 8, 2020 15:47:50 GMT
This could just be a marketing ploy like the Disney Vault, sell them in limited releases and watch the demand skyrocket.
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Aug 8, 2020 23:38:39 GMT
Makes sense There barely any money to be made in BluRay, it makes little sense to do 4k on old stuff for a loss. It’s not a loss. Just not. Just not making bajillions in profit like Disney wants. Sony for example is on board Remastering and releasing classic films in 4K disc its insane to think people are buying 4k DVD’s in droves. While I see no reason to do it, they could just as easily make a digital download available. |
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