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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2017 9:42:44 GMT
That is my question.
My top 3 Natalie Wood movies
1. This Property Is Condemned ( 1966 ) 2. Splendor in the Grass ( 1961 ) 3. Gypsy ( 1962 )
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2017 9:48:41 GMT
This Property is Condemned Splendor in the Grass West Side Story
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2017 10:02:43 GMT
1 SPLENDOUR IN THE GRASS 2 WEST SIDE STORY 3 REBEL WITHOUT A CAUSE
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Post by Wesley Crusher on Feb 20, 2017 12:13:15 GMT
Natalie Wood (top 7 of 23 feature films seen)
9.0 Miracle on 34th Street (1947) 8.0 Tomorrow Is Forever (1946) 7.0 The Searchers (1956) 7.0 Gypsy (1962) 7.0 The Ghost and Mrs. Muir (1947) 7.0 The Blue Veil (1951) 7.0 One Desire (1955)
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Post by baj2 on Feb 20, 2017 12:16:03 GMT
Splendor in the Grass West Side Story Gypsy
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Post by naterdawg on Feb 20, 2017 16:02:24 GMT
For me, Splendor in the Grass is not only Natalie's best film, it's Warren Beatty's, too. Her performance is riveting, and I absolutely love the last scene and closing lines.
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Post by novastar6 on Feb 20, 2017 16:10:29 GMT
Rebel Without a Cause The Great Race Inside Daisy Clover
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Post by naterdawg on Feb 20, 2017 17:24:44 GMT
naterdawg, the final twenty minutes of the film are as perfect as film gets. Kazan, who acknowledged the film was a fine one but not a masterpiece, said that himself, and he credited Inge's remarkable script for it (though we both know without Kazan's direction it wouldn't have worked as well). I've always felt the same. Those moments are great. And so sad, haunting, and beautiful. A question about the ending...does Deenie still love Bud the same way? Or does she realize that one must give up the ideals of youth and settle for "second best?" The poetic lines seem to point toward that conclusion.
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Post by marshamae on Feb 20, 2017 18:01:58 GMT
Always amazes me she made Three musicals, two great and one pretty good , without much of a voice or any dance training although she moved well. Fortunately ,West Side Story was conceived with a singing couple as the leads and a dancing couple as the second leads. I thought Natalie wood was excellent and didn't deserve the ill- natured comment she received. I did think Marni Nixon was not the perfect match she was for Deborah Kerr. WSS . Is such an extraordinary film in every way that this just seems like nit picking
Miracle on 34th Street - Natalie was, in her way as extraordinary a child actress as Elizabeth Taylor and ,like Taylor made a seem less transition to teen and adult role. Miracle was her best role as a kid and she got every bit of juice out of it.
Splendeur in the Grass is my Third . Wonderful script, direction and performances. Natalie trusted Kazan and she really let loose. In all the talk about his relationship with Dean, I've never read anything about his relationship with Natalie.
She was always in the wrong generation. She was a child in the glamorous 40's, too young for the fur stoles and evening gowns. In the 50's she was a serious young actress but with miles of film experience, up against stage trained New York actresses, and without tge protection Taylor got at this stage of her career. When she went on the set of WSS she was looked down on for being old Hollywood. When the world caught up to her in the late 60's , she was too old to be convincingly counter culture. It's funny that Taylor played a free spirited counter culture woman at this same time in the Sand Piper. Nit a great film but she made her part convincing by being not exactly a member of the tribe, but accepted by them. This stance made her part work. If she had tried to appear as a full fledged hipster I doubt it would have worked .
Sorry I got sidetracked with the Taylor Wood Comparison.
I really like Natalie Wood in almost everything . She had a difficult voice, lots of breaks. Some films of hers I've never seen Bob and Carol and Ted and Alice Love With The Proper Stranger
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2017 20:12:55 GMT
This Property is Condemned Splendor in the Grass West Side Story I have seen Splendor In The Grass twice. It is generally regarded as Wood's finest hour. It is also a good story. West Side Story as a musical, is in a class of it's own. I saw this live on stage about 6yrs ago and was enraptured by it. It made me appreciate the film, which I hadn't really liked before. I need to see This Property Is Condemned, it looks like a goody. Do you like this one better than Splendor @strudel ? That would be fun seeing West Side Story on the stage. I do like This Property is Condemned better ~ they both have sadness with Natalie as the main character and Robert Redford is at his most handsome in it
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2017 20:23:05 GMT
naterdawg,Deanie still loves Bud, but in that final scene she comes to accept that real life is about the acceptance of what is, rather than what one wants. One of the most profound themes in William Inge's writings is that life is filled with compromise. That's what's so heartbreaking about the ending, I think, the knowledge that in some way it does mean settling for second best. But the final lines also seem to indicate that there is promise in the future in spite of the sadness of letting go of the past. Actually, I don't know if the man she got engaged to was second best since I don't know if she would want to live like Bud and Angelina
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2017 20:26:17 GMT
Marshamae, Love With the Proper Stranger is a favorite, I recommend it
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Post by joekiddlouischama on Feb 20, 2017 23:34:45 GMT
No mention of The Searchers (John Ford, 1956)? Granted, Wood does not have much to do in that film.
I would have to have Rebel Without a Cause up there. The film is way ahead of its time—shockingly so—and Nicholas Ray's direction is so visually and technically inventive, sometimes breaking taboos.
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Post by taranofprydain on Feb 21, 2017 3:03:03 GMT
Miracle on 34th Street Love with the Proper Stranger Penelope
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Post by Lebowskidoo 🦞 on Apr 11, 2017 22:27:05 GMT
Miracle on 34th Street The Candidate West Side Story *I haven't seen Splendor in the Grass*
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Post by Lebowskidoo 🦞 on Apr 11, 2017 23:21:25 GMT
Miracle on 34th Street The Candidate West Side Story *I haven't seen Splendor in the Grass* You must, must, must see SPLENDOR IN THE GRASS! The best performance of her long career. Conveniently enough, I have SITG recorded off TCM, just waiting for some day to have a Woodfest! I also have The Girl He Left Behind and The Burning Hills, and "Wood" like to see Bob and Carol and Ted and Alice too if I can find it.
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Post by london777 on Apr 11, 2017 23:25:43 GMT
Miracle on 34th Street The Candidate West Side Story *I haven't seen Splendor in the Grass* You must, must, must see SPLENDOR IN THE GRASS! The best performance of her long career. It had me in tears when I was 21. Whenever I thought about it in later years I assumed it was sentimental manipulative twaddle and ignored it. But if it is your favorite film I must give it a chance to see if it can put me in tears again, so I have just added it to my shopping list.
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Post by BATouttaheck on Apr 11, 2017 23:33:24 GMT
34th Street Rebel Stranger
I surprised myself when I cried the day she died. We had sort of grown up together (on opposite sides of the screen) and I would no longer get to see my friend in new movies. I can watch her a child, a teen and a young lady but Grandma Natalie was not to be. Still saddens me.
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Post by BATouttaheck on Apr 11, 2017 23:43:47 GMT
QUESTION about Splendor in the Grass
I have never seen this film. If I have read how it ends, should I watch it anyway ?
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Post by hi224 on Apr 13, 2017 7:05:55 GMT
How about inside daisy clover.
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