|
|
Post by Anonymous Andy on Sept 25, 2020 16:13:38 GMT
Having tuned out of Rob Zombie's cinematic outings after Halloween II, I was surprised to find myself enjoying this obvious (and perhaps desperate) return to the well. Sid Haig is sorely missed, and the plot hits the same basic beats as The Devil's Rejects, but the violence and crassness seem somewhat muted by Rob Zombie standards. And shit, there's even a few somewhat affecting character beats that almost make you believe Rob has matured as a filmmaker.
I expected to hate it, I predicted my eyes would roll out of their sockets, but wouldn't you know it, I kind of liked the thing.
6/10
|
|
|
|
Post by James on Sept 25, 2020 17:05:05 GMT
I thought it was okay, but I couldn’t help notice the glaringly and obviously similar plot structure that TDR used implemented here. It seems kind of odd since TDR was supposed to be wildly different from HO1KC, and this didn’t really try anything novel. Weird.
I mean, I would’ve loved to have seen a prison escape type of movie.
|
|
|
|
Post by Anonymous Andy on Sept 25, 2020 18:32:34 GMT
I thought it was okay, but I couldn’t help notice the glaringly and obviously similar plot structure that TDR used implemented here. It seems kind of odd since TDR was supposed to be wildly different from HO1KC, and this didn’t really try anything novel. Weird. I mean, I would’ve loved to have seen a prison escape type of movie. Yeah, I definitely would've preferred a whole new direction, but honestly, I think Rob is pretty limited as a storyteller. Once I was able to forgive the same-y plot, I enjoyed the film for what it is. It's not a patch on The Devil's Rejects, but it's far from the worst belated sequel, and not the worst thing Rob has committed to film either. I think an interesting angle would've been to make it supernatural, to have the three characters rise from the dead by some unseen force and then get really weird with it. Guess the time and budget wouldn't have favored that, though. |
|
|
|
Post by James on Sept 25, 2020 19:26:17 GMT
I thought it was okay, but I couldn’t help notice the glaringly and obviously similar plot structure that TDR used implemented here. It seems kind of odd since TDR was supposed to be wildly different from HO1KC, and this didn’t really try anything novel. Weird. I mean, I would’ve loved to have seen a prison escape type of movie. Yeah, I definitely would've preferred a whole new direction, but honestly, I think Rob is pretty limited as a storyteller. Once I was able to forgive the same-y plot, I enjoyed the film for what it is. It's not a patch on The Devil's Rejects, but it's far from the worst belated sequel, and not the worst thing Rob has committed to film either. I think an interesting angle would've been to make it supernatural, to have the three characters rise from the dead by some unseen force and then get really weird with it. Guess the time and budget wouldn't have favored that, though. Egh, that might’ve been too silly in my opinion. Then again that also would make more sense than how they managed to survive between movies. But yeah, I was able to accept it for what it was given that RZ isn’t the best writer in the world. Might need to give it another watch. |
|
TheSowIsMine
Junior Member
@thesowismine
Posts: 2,656
Likes: 1,688
|
Post by TheSowIsMine on Sept 25, 2020 21:09:53 GMT
It was definitely a drop in production quality, but it was still enjoyable for me.
|
|
|
|
Post by Anonymous Andy on Sept 25, 2020 21:57:39 GMT
Does anyone know if that one guy from the IMDB horror board who thought Rob Zombie shat gold liked the movie?
|
|
|
|
Post by FridayOnElmStreet on Sept 26, 2020 9:24:17 GMT
9/10 I loved it!
|
|
|
|
Post by masterofallgoons on Sept 26, 2020 14:59:15 GMT
I saw it a while ago, and I'm struggling to remember many specifics, but I thought it was pretty weak.
It starts very stupidly, explaining that they survived at the end of the last movie and are all just perfectly fine now. The last movie clearly intended to show us that there would be no sequel, but now that Rob Zombie ran out of other options he figured he could get financing by going back to the old well, but that was obviously never the plan. But given that situation at least try to make some sense of it. As dumb as it may have been if he had gone a supernatural route, at least that would have been something, or at least if there was some sort of lingering effect of being shot 679 times each.
But that opening is still sort of the most interesting part of the movie. It may have been annoying, but I may have preferred watching a faux documentary about the characters for the whole time instead.
At the very least it was extremely odd that the interview with Captain Spaulding wasn't weaved in throughout the duration of the movie. It would have been such a natural way to keep his presence alive during the whole movie evem though he only could shoot for that one day or so as his health was failing. He could have still had him die in prison but just call back to that interview. To me that would have greatly improved the movie.
Instead, we get Richard Brake joining them for no good reason, and while he's fine, it's not the same, especially since the rest of the movie is just a retread of the same tone and road trip while chased by a cop plot of the last one. It's just a lower budget, more amateurish looking version of the same thing all over again minus the one actor everyone liked the best.
Kinda lame.
|
|
|
|
Post by Anonymous Andy on Sept 28, 2020 15:40:38 GMT
I saw it a while ago, and I'm struggling to remember many specifics, but I thought it was pretty weak. It starts very stupidly, explaining that they survived at the end of the last movie and are all just perfectly fine now. The last movie clearly intended to show us that there would be no sequel, but now that Rob Zombie ran out of other options he figured he could get financing by going back to the old well, but that was obviously never the plan. But given that situation at least try to make some sense of it. As dumb as it may have been if he had gone a supernatural route, at least that would have been something, or at least if there was some sort of lingering effect of being shot 679 times each. But that opening is still sort of the most interesting part of the movie. It may have been annoying, but I may have preferred watching a faux documentary about the characters for the whole time instead. At the very least it was extremely odd that the interview with Captain Spaulding wasn't weaved in throughout the duration of the movie. It would have been such a natural way to keep his presence alive during the whole movie evem though he only could shoot for that one day or so as his health was failing. He could have still had him die in prison but just call back to that interview. To me that would have greatly improved the movie. Instead, we get Richard Brake joining them for no good reason, and while he's fine, it's not the same, especially since the rest of the movie is just a retread of the same tone and road trip while chased by a cop plot of the last one. It's just a lower budget, more amateurish looking version of the same thing all over again minus the one actor everyone liked the best. Kinda lame.  |
|
|
|
Post by forca84 on Oct 2, 2020 23:06:55 GMT
It loses a bit of steam when they get to Mexico for me... But it doesn't ruin it. It was nice seeing them again. It was sad seeing Sid Haig older and more frail. Rob should've made this sequel ages ago.
The ending is a bit flat for me. (And the obvious digital blood effects etc.) But it felt like an okay swan song for the characters. Got me thinking about the actors themselves. They are all getting older.
"Lords of Salem" is probably the most mature film of his so far. Bizarre? Sure. But very restrained. He could've done alot more with the ending. I liked it.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
@Deleted
Posts: 0
Likes:
|
Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2020 7:11:57 GMT
If nothing else can be said about Zombie, he definitely created his own signature style, love it or hate it. I enjoyed House Of A 1,000 Corpses and Devil's Rejects, but feel dirty for doibg so (which is what he's going for I think). I didn't hate his Halloween film, he tried a fresh take, but making Meyers a sympathetic human ruined his mystique.
Maybe I'll give 3 From Hell a watch.
ETA: Sid Haig is a horror legend. Going forward Zombie's films will definitely be less without him.
|
|
|
|
Post by Lebowskidoo 🦞 on Oct 29, 2020 15:10:09 GMT
We'll always have The Devil's Rejects (2005.  I get wanting to return to the well, but it was always going to be hard to beat the previous movie. This has its moments though. Maybe John Carpenter can direct the reboot?   |
|
