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Post by Feologild Oakes on Oct 11, 2020 8:56:13 GMT
Wonder Woman director Patty Jenkins has said that movie-going is facing a real threat of extinction. Her new superhero movie has been delayed three times during the coronavirus pandemic. She is among dozens of top Hollywood directors appealing to the US government to provide a financial lifeline to cinemas. Ms Jenkins's warning comes as cinemas in the UK are also struggling with a recent spate of delayed film releases. "If we shut this down, this will not be a reversible process," she said in an interview with Reuters news agency. "We could lose movie theatre-going forever." Cinemas across the world are struggling financially with tough Covid-19 social restrictions limiting customers, along with a lack of blockbuster movies to attract them. In the US, the National Association of Theatre Owners said 69% of small and mid-sized cinema companies could be forced to file for bankruptcy or shut down permanently. America is the world's biggest movie market in terms of box office revenues, with China catching up rapidly. Ms Jenkins said widespread closures would lead Hollywood studios to stop investing in films for cinemas, and turn to online streaming instead. "It could be the kind of thing that happened to the music industry," she added. "Where you could crumble the entire industry by making it something that can't be profitable." Some of this year's major Hollywood films, including Walt Disney's Mulan, skipped cinemas and went straight to streaming. Ms Jenkins said that there is no option for her sequel, Wonder Woman 1984, to go straight to streaming. The superhero movie, starring Gal Gadot, is now scheduled for release on Christmas Day. That is a delay of six months from its original premiere date in June. More delays
Last week it was announced that the release of the new James Bond film has been delayed again. The premiere of No Time To Die had already been moved from April to November because of the pandemic. It is now scheduled for April 2021. Blockbuster remake Dune has also seen its release date delayed. The Warner Bros sci-fi epic was due for release in December but has been been pushed back to October 2021. Warner Bros has also delayed The Batman, now due in March 2022. In the UK, Odeon is cutting the opening hours for some of its cinemas to weekends only because of delays to new film releases. The chain, which operates 120 theatres, said it will affect a quarter of its cinemas, which will now open between Friday and Sunday. It comes as Cineworld said it will temporarily close its UK and US venues, affecting 45,000 jobs. www.bbc.com/news/business-54446889The cinema survived World War 1, The Spanish Flu, The Great Depression and World War 2, If cinema could survive through that it will survive through this. Also i think if anything is going to actually kill the cinema it will be streaming services. What do you people think, do you think Covid-19 will kill the cinema ? |
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Post by Prime etc. on Oct 11, 2020 9:14:46 GMT
Yeah but the problem is the companies that control movies love China.
China is their bud. They wanted trade with China.
So the best way for movies to survive is to have smaller American and Western based companies that , very importantly, do not give one flying fuck about China or Chinese audiences.
That is crucial.
They have to make movies for local.
Think global buy local?
That is what needs to happen.
The US government bailing out cinemas is just corporate welfare and money theft.
They want money so they can keep making propaganda with China as their new focus.
If film companies were small, they would not be eager to close down because of the virus.
It's only because they are international corporations that do not care about cinemas--
they would rather just stream content around the globe anyway to people's homes.
Also the content has to be more appealing than "Wonder Woman 2."
There's no reason for people to want to go out to see a movie they have already have seen.
The stories have to be more interesting.
Hollywood was sick well before coronavirus.
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Post by ck100 on Oct 11, 2020 9:47:37 GMT
I think going to the movies will happen again if the virus is stopped. People are concerned for their safety and health first and foremost and it's hard to be in the mood to go with what's going on. These two things are going hand in hand.
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Post by seahawksraawk00 on Oct 11, 2020 10:28:34 GMT
To be fair, I'd say film-going has been dying off long ago before COVID. Obviously people still go, but right now, superhero films, Star Wars and existing franchises are really the only ones dominating the box office. Any small budget or indie films, even with A-list actors, barely make their own budget back. Superhero films and Star Wars films are just easy to follow and the epitome of escapism. I always maintain that at least this generation of movie goers just don't like smart and clever films that make you think.
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Post by Ransom on Oct 11, 2020 10:49:05 GMT
Who knows. Once there is a vaccine more people will go to the cinemas. However, I think Covid-19 is just the start of many more, equally or worse pandemics headed our way due to global warming. There's that positive thinking again. |
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Post by Ransom on Oct 11, 2020 10:49:44 GMT
To be fair, I'd say film-going has been dying off long ago before COVID. Obviously people still go, but right now, superhero films, Star Wars and existing franchises are really the only ones dominating the box office. Any small budget or indie films, even with A-list actors, barely make their own budget back. Superhero films and Star Wars films are just easy to follow and the epitome of escapism. I always maintain that at least this generation of movie goers just don't like smart and clever films that make you think. You do pretentious really well. |
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Post by Feologild Oakes on Oct 11, 2020 12:51:34 GMT
Who knows. Once there is a vaccine more people will go to the cinemas. However, I think Covid-19 is just the start of many more, equally or worse pandemics headed our way due to global warming. History is filled with bad pandemic most of them far worse than Covid-19, people need to stop acting like pandemics and epidemics is something new. If you are right, we just going back to how it used to be for centuries with pandemic and epidemics hitting the world over and over. But we do have one thing in the modern world that people in the past did not, we have far more medical knowledge, of course not everybody but those who do have medical knowledge have far more medical knowledge than doctors who lived in the past.
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Post by politicidal on Oct 11, 2020 13:08:42 GMT
To be fair, I'd say film-going has been dying off long ago before COVID. Obviously people still go, but right now, superhero films, Star Wars and existing franchises are really the only ones dominating the box office. Any small budget or indie films, even with A-list actors, barely make their own budget back. Superhero films and Star Wars films are just easy to follow and the epitome of escapism. I always maintain that at least this generation of movie goers just don't like smart and clever films that make you think. It is partly the movie going public’s fault. They don’t follow movie news as much as most of us here and have no problem watching the latest sequel over something original (indie or mainstream). |
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Post by spooner5020 on Oct 11, 2020 13:59:28 GMT
One reason, among many, for the seriousness of this virus is its death rate among big, fat unhealthy Americans. Our food chain and dietary habits will not get healthier. We will not have healthcare improvements. Certainly not among the ever growing poor in the US. So yeah, as global warming melts more permafrost, more viruses will be unleashed. I would say you should forget about life on Planet Earth being like it was in the past. Them days are over and it ain’t even gotten that bad yet. People have gone apeshit about wearing a mask. You think their intelligence will increase anytime soon? You’re a young man. You’ve a lot more stupidity to witness and endure before you die. And don’t think it can’t happen in Norway because the whole globe is regressing in common decency and more accepting of violence and despotism...enjoy your Euro social safety net while you can. So what is it that caused covid-19, global warming or China, or are these 2 things interchangeable? I'd change your brand of sauce if I were you, the cracks are showing. I’m confused what Global warming....wait isn’t it called Climate Change now has ANYTHING to do with the virus. Oh yeah that’s right NOTHING!!! It came from China. Not Global Warming or whatever the fuck libtards are calling it these days!!! Theaters have survived worse. Patty Jenkins needs to get her facts straight. |
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Post by moviemouth on Oct 11, 2020 14:39:35 GMT
So what is it that caused covid-19, global warming or China, or are these 2 things interchangeable? I'd change your brand of sauce if I were you, the cracks are showing. I’m confused what Global warming....wait isn’t it called Climate Change now has ANYTHING to do with the virus. Oh yeah that’s right NOTHING!!! It came from China. Not Global Warming or whatever the fuck libtards are calling it these days!!! Theaters have survived worse. Patty Jenkins needsts straight. Global warming is real and could be the cause of COVID. "could" being the key word. I don't understand climate change denying. The scientists say it is happening and from all the strange weather that has been happening over the past 10 years, I don't see how it isn't at least very possible. You can't put all that toxic shit into the atmosphere for 100 years and not expect it to effect the planet. I am no expert, but I doubt anyone else here is either.
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Post by spooner5020 on Oct 11, 2020 14:55:41 GMT
I’m confused what Global warming....wait isn’t it called Climate Change now has ANYTHING to do with the virus. Oh yeah that’s right NOTHING!!! It came from China. Not Global Warming or whatever the fuck libtards are calling it these days!!! Theaters have survived worse. Patty Jenkins needsts straight. Global warming is real and could be the cause of COVID. "could" being the key word. I don't understand climate change denying. The scientists say it is happening and from all the strange weather that has been happening over the past 10 years, I don't see how it isn't at least very possible. You can't put all that toxic shit into the atmosphere for 100 years and not expect it to effect the planet. I am no expert, but I doubt anyone else here is either. It’s not the cause of COVID though. It was a man made virus. No one is saying that Climate Change doesn’t exist, but the things that liberals are wanting to do to fix it will help NO ONE!!! The Green New Deal won’t ever happen. No one will accept it!!! |
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Post by moviemouth on Oct 11, 2020 14:57:55 GMT
Global warming is real and could be the cause of COVID. "could" being the key word. I don't understand climate change denying. The scientists say it is happening and from all the strange weather that has been happening over the past 10 years, I don't see how it isn't at least very possible. You can't put all that toxic shit into the atmosphere for 100 years and not expect it to effect the planet. I am no expert, but I doubt anyone else here is either. It’s not the cause of COVID though. It was a man made virus. No one is saying that Climate Change doesn’t exist, but the things that liberals are wanting to do to fix it will help NO ONE!!! The Green New Deal won’t ever happen. No one will accept it!!! What is the hard evidence for that? I'd like some proof and not just speculation. I didn't say it was the cause of COVID, but according to scientists climate change will result in more deadly viruses as time goes on. I am not speculating either way. Of course the man made aspect is something I have thought about, but until I am provided with sufficient evidence I am withholding all speculation.
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Post by hi224 on Oct 11, 2020 18:22:07 GMT
whats new?.
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Post by jonesjxd on Oct 11, 2020 21:42:07 GMT
Yeah but the problem is the companies that control movies love China. China is their bud. They wanted trade with China. So the best way for movies to survive is to have smaller American and Western based companies that , very importantly, do not give one flying fuck about China or Chinese audiences. That is crucial. They have to make movies for local. Think global buy local? That is what needs to happen. The US government bailing out cinemas is just corporate welfare and money theft. They want money so they can keep making propaganda with China as their new focus. If film companies were small, they would not be eager to close down because of the virus. It's only because they are international corporations that do not care about cinemas-- they would rather just stream content around the globe anyway to people's homes. Also the content has to be more appealing than "Wonder Woman 2." There's no reason for people to want to go out to see a movie they have already have seen. The stories have to be more interesting. Hollywood was sick well before coronavirus. Bad take.
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Post by Prime etc. on Oct 11, 2020 21:46:40 GMT
How is it a bad take? The reason movie theaters are in trouble is because of globalism. Making content for all countries instead of the West, and then having trade with China that led to the virus. Giving them taxpayer money will not help. They will pocket it and then probably stop theatrical showings anyway--like Disney stopping Fox films from being shown in revival theaters despite the popularity.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2020 21:48:54 GMT
I would like to see a restructuring.
Perhaps lower ticket prices. Maybe 10 dollars for an individual ticket. And as you add people to your party you get a deal.
Like:
2 Adults; 18 Dollars
3 Adults; 25 Dollars
4 Adults; 30 Dollars
2 Adults/ 1 Kid; 24 Dollars
2 Adults / 2 Kids 28 Dollars
Something like that?
Or at least concession prices go down.
Popcorn is like the cheapest snack you can make. A small popcorn should be 1 dollar at the most.
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Post by jonesjxd on Oct 11, 2020 21:52:31 GMT
How is it a bad take? The reason movie theaters are in trouble is because of globalism. Making content for all countries instead of the West, and then having trade with China that led to the virus. Giving them taxpayer money will not help. They will pocket it and then probably stop theatrical showings anyway--like Disney stopping Fox films from being shown in revival theaters despite the popularity.
You do realize that the west is included in the globe, right? I also gather you know very little about trade or geo-politics.
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Post by Prime etc. on Oct 11, 2020 22:02:51 GMT
You do realize that the west is included in the globe, right? I also gather you know very little about trade or geo-politics. I know I shouldn't have to say this but..you do realize in other parts of the globe they speak languages besides English right? And they have different customs--like comedy is different in Asian countries, social norms etc? You do understand the idea "different strokes for different folks" correct? And you understand I hope and pray, that when Dirty Harry was made in 1971, they were not (at all) thinking about whether the Chinese man on the street in Bejiing would understand the "canvasing for the Red Cross' joke?
I shouldn't have to state the obvious but since you started it.
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Post by Prime etc. on Oct 11, 2020 22:04:07 GMT
'If you require stars less often, and your profits are sinking, then their income can seem objectionable. Stars with a twenty-million-dollar “quote” now often receive just ten to fifteen million, which is barely worth getting out of bed for. Studios are increasingly bypassing stars altogether, making entertainments—“Transformers,” “Real Steel,” “Cars”—that largely dispense with the traditional sine qua non of the movies, the human face. Such films are intended to surmount the idiosyncrasies of the global bazaar by serving as a kind of cinematic Esperanto. “A person may come across differently in each market,” Stacey Snider, the C.E.O. of DreamWorks Studios, says. “A robot is a robot around the world.”'
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Post by petrolino on Oct 12, 2020 0:17:19 GMT
I predict a major boom when people are desperate to socialise and start going out again. Marvel's analytics are working overtime in this regard.
Sadly, public transport and pubs will once again be overwhelmed so you can't get a seat and have to queue for an hour to buy a pint of beer while being packed in like a sardine, but what's new in capitalism 101.
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