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Post by quagsjonny on Jan 22, 2021 21:36:21 GMT
(1989) , not a bad quarantine re-watch. Great cast, Cunningham, Manfredini, brutal special affects, story etc.... we cheered... hidden gem?
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Post by stefancrosscoe on Jan 22, 2021 21:50:12 GMT
I re-watched both these late 80s underwater sci-fi/horror themed titles of Leviathan and Deep Star Six, about a year ago. I really enjoyed Leviathan, but sadly Deep Star did little to change my view/rating since my last visit. However, if there was one thing I felt it managed to do slightly better than the bigger budget release of Leviathan, is that it sure contained a much more exciting monster/sea creature, along with a bit more gory scenes as well.
That, and Miguel Ferrer pretty much stole the show. Still, it felt like it took "forever" before things started happening, and I also (might mix it up with Leviathan) remember or think I do, that the sexiest babe leaves far too early.
All in all, I rated it with a 4/10 back in 2010, then once more a year ago. Still, I will keep it along with Leviathan. As I have a soft spot for these kind of underwater sea monster films of that era.
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Post by masterofallgoons on Jan 22, 2021 23:34:40 GMT
I re-watched both these late 80s underwater sci-fi/horror themed titles of Leviathan and Deep Star Six, about a year ago. I really enjoyed Leviathan, but sadly Deep Star did little to change my view/rating since my last visit. However, if there was one thing I felt it managed to do slightly better than the bigger budget release of Leviathan, is that it sure contained a much more exciting monster/sea creature, along with a bit more gory scenes as well. That, and Miguel Ferrer pretty much stole the show. Still, it felt like it took "forever" before things started happening, and I also (might mix it up with Leviathan) remember or think I do, that the sexiest babe leaves far too early. All in all, I rated it with a 4/10 back in 2010, then once more a year ago. Still, I will keep it along with Leviathan. As I have a soft spot for these kind of underwater sea monster films of that era. 2 blind spot titles for me that I've always meant to get around to but still haven't for whatever reason. Maybe this post will remind to finally get on them.
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Post by Prime etc. on Jan 23, 2021 1:56:09 GMT
Ha all I remember about it was Miguel Ferrer. I need to look at it again.
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Post by politicidal on Jan 23, 2021 17:58:27 GMT
Hadn’t seen it, but I like the monster design from the photos I’ve seen so far.
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Post by quagsjonny on Jan 24, 2021 5:31:53 GMT
Ha all I remember about it was Miguel Ferrer. I need to look at it again. Ferrer gives 100%, as always. Leviathan should be included as well, they were pretty much released together. Fun sci-horror throwbacks... under water... during the quarantine blues. Cheers. Watching Jonah Hex. Fun film.
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Post by petrolino on Jan 24, 2021 16:24:09 GMT
Great movie.
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Post by forca84 on Jan 31, 2021 20:09:34 GMT
I enjoyed "Deep star six". But I get it mixed up with "The Rift" and "Leviathan" for being similar. But I do remember enjoying them.
Have not watched "Underwater". Just not a fan of Kristen Stewart. But heard it's decent.
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Post by Anonymous Andy on Feb 1, 2021 16:29:07 GMT
Just watched it this morning on Amazon. I liked it, but it was a little patchy and somewhat derivative. Felt like I was watching a lesser Alien/The Thing, which I guess is appropriate given the director (Sean S. Cunningham) and his penchant for producing willful knockoffs. Still, they did a good job with an obviously low budget and the actors all did a fine job yelling "Oh my God, what is that thing?!" a lot.
6/10
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Post by stefancrosscoe on Feb 2, 2021 7:22:20 GMT
I might have to look up a few other of these The Abyss/underwater horror/thriller of the late 80s, titles. Did notice that a few, like The Rift and another one, Lords of the Deep is up in full movies, at Youtube.
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Post by stefancrosscoe on Feb 6, 2021 9:26:32 GMT
Well, I ended up with re-watching James Cameron and his The Abyss (1989) last night, and sadly for my part, it did not go too well this time around. First off, it is surely one of the most beautiful and impressive looking/made underwater films, that I have seen, no question about that. But almost 3 hours, where the last part felt like time stood completely still, and not made any better, when the most interesting character, of a rather dull and annoying crew of people, is "written out" and you are left with what feels like something straight out of a Spielberg/Disney fantasy movie, and yeah, I just lost completely interest and started wondering if I should just hit the press forward button, and get it done with.
I notice, from my earlier visit (almost 10 years ago) that I had rated it with a 7/10. Which I can somewhat understand, but seeing the film once more, after recent years of having re-watch Aliens (1986) and True Lies (1994). The Abyss is really a huge letdown (for my part) of what Cameron had done, and would go on to deliver afterwards. I understand that the special effects were groundbreaking stuff, without them, I guess T2 might have looked or ended up very differently.
I might have not exactly done myself a "favor", by once more, going for the special edition, or the even longer cut, that lasts for almost 3 hours of time. And I doubt I have ever seen the theatrical cut, so who knows. Maybe that might be an idea for a potential re-visit, but as of right now, I can easily wait another 10 years or more, until that happens. As I feel very, finished with this movie.
The one thing, that really saves it from a even lesser rating, is the truly terrific performance of Michael Biehn, who pretty much steals every scene he is in. How such a talented guy, never got his break out back then, well, that is just kind of sad. My favorite part, has to be when he finally shuts up the annoying and smug Mary Elizabeth Mastrantonio and her constant nagging, with a bit of tape. As much as I liked Ed Harris in his part, the last hour almost ruined it for me. When Biehn left the screen, Harris and Elizabeth seeemd to go all the way for the "Oscar bait", with each one having their "emotional" scream and shout speech.
Then when the alien stuff started taking completely over, and it just went WAAAAAY overboard, and I might be a bit more cynical with my age, but damn. I want my aliens to be creepy, nasty, slimy and ruthless bastards, not these cozy, cute little world watchers who is set here to teach us humans a lesson. And when the music or score goes full into the generic sound, overblown angelic stuff, it just felt like the parody were almost complete.
I remember I felt cheated the first time I saw it, still I guess seeing all the impressive underwater scenes, likeable guys like Harris and Biehn deliver the goods and so on, kind of "won" me over back then. But now, now way. Biehn stole the show, surely one of his finest roles, but even that could not save the film from itself and I have to downgrade my former vote to a disappointing:
6/10 (if not for Biehn and his impressive part, this would have gone further down)
As of right now, I still think that The Abyss is the best looking/made underwater film, at least of those I have seen, but where the story and characters really is not all that impressive, and I actually got way more entertainment out of re-watching Leviathan, and as for The Abyss and I am not sure if this one is out or ever will come out to a Blu-ray release. But for me, I will not bother with that, all that matters, is that Cameron gets his shit together, and delivers a True Lies Blu-ray, but I guess his interest lies with making a bunch of more Avatar movies instead.
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Post by quagsjonny on Feb 7, 2021 3:37:40 GMT
^ Agree, good post. I saw the Abyss and Leviathan young in theater. Deep star shortly after on VHS release. Strange with the flooding of theses films at the same release point, studio(s) call, I suppose. I may be biased by the DS6 score and pacing/editing. Almost peculiar these underwater big budget films(then) were all released relatively together.
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Post by Anonymous Andy on Feb 10, 2021 18:52:25 GMT
Strange with the flooding of theses films I see what you did there.
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Post by lostinlimbo on Feb 13, 2021 22:00:20 GMT
This one has grown on me over time, and it’s mainly due to the Miguel Ferrer dynamic. There’s a bit more going on then just a monster threat. And the Matt McCoy encounter is a memorable scene. Loses some of the shock being plastered on its film poster though.
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