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Post by politicidal on Jun 3, 2021 13:52:46 GMT
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Post by mecano04 on Jun 3, 2021 15:11:19 GMT
As a gamer, I get a slight feel of Bioshock Infinite mostly for the style.
Otherwise, I don't know.
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Post by politicidal on Jun 3, 2021 15:15:46 GMT
As a gamer, I get a slight feel of Bioshock Infinite mostly for the style. Otherwise, I don't know. It's kind of interesting and it has elements that sort of remind me of Strange Days (1995) and I loved that movie. But a part of me worries if this could wind up a pretentious mess like Transcendence.
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Post by mecano04 on Jun 3, 2021 18:09:14 GMT
As a gamer, I get a slight feel of Bioshock Infinite mostly for the style. Otherwise, I don't know. It's kind of interesting and it has elements that sort of remind me of Strange Days (1995) and I loved that movie. But a part of me worries if this could wind up a pretentious mess like Transcendence. I will have to watch both to get an idea but my fear is, and it's probably what you're alluding to also, is that the movie might "lose itself" in that mix of timelines/universes.
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Post by mecano04 on Aug 23, 2021 23:40:07 GMT
I'll begin by admitting I still haven't watched either Strange days or Transcendence.
That being said, Reminiscence felt quite uneven. The cast is great and everybody is good, while not giving Oscar-worthy performances. Visually, some effects aren't top notch but the atmosphere and some scenes are quite interesting and beautiful. The premise is intriguing and the introduction does a good job at setting things in motion, then things begin to "sway". As the movie goes on, it seems to add more and more subplots and genres at times that it's either confusing or you feel something is missing. It start as a noir-ish science-fiction movie, then the element that will set the story in motion is introduced, at which point everything still blends quite well. Then, somewhat early on, you get to a gun scene where a bullet hit a jukebox and you get to hear Tainted Love by Soft Cell while the shooting goes on. The issue there isn't that the song doesn't fit the story but that the silliness of the jukebox playing the song when hit, clashes so much with the tone of the movie (at that point) it feels off. It's like inserting (I'm exaggerating but you'll get the idea) an MCU fight scene in something like Casablanca. And as soon as it's over you're back to serious and you won't get that kind of thing for the rest of the movie... Later, as the romance and mystery take over, we're given slightly more info on the universe but never to the point it really matters or we get to really understand. During the resolution of the story, we get to hear the start of a revolution but we were given so little info about a class conflict that it feels like we missed episodes of a TV show. In the last moments, we get to see a slightly more positive ending than expected but then, the situation we're left witnessing kinda raise questions as to how the reminiscence technology they're using in the movie actually works. Ultimately, considering the casting and the core concept which wasn't bad, it felt like a wasted opportunity. 5/10
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Post by politicidal on Aug 24, 2021 18:47:49 GMT
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Post by mecano04 on Aug 24, 2021 21:37:38 GMT
The movie the trailer sells might remind people of Inception or Blade Runner but it's nowhere near any of those two.
It's wasn't as innovative and unlike those two movies, it strayed from it's core concept.
Still, 2 millions... ouch.
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Post by Nora on Aug 24, 2021 23:24:52 GMT
I'll begin by admitting I still haven't watched either Strange days or Transcendence.
That being said, Reminiscence felt quite uneven. The cast is great and everybody is good, while not giving Oscar-worthy performances. Visually, some effects aren't top notch but the atmosphere and some scenes are quite interesting and beautiful. The premise is intriguing and the introduction does a good job at setting things in motion, then things begin to "sway". As the movie goes on, it seems to add more and more subplots and genres at times that it's either confusing or you feel something is missing. It start as a noir-ish science-fiction movie, then the element that will set the story in motion is introduced, at which point everything still blends quite well. Then, somewhat early on, you get to a gun scene where a bullet hit a jukebox and you get to hear Tainted Love by Soft Cell while the shooting goes on. The issue there isn't that the song doesn't fit the story but that the silliness of the jukebox playing the song when hit, clashes so much with the tone of the movie (at that point) it feels off. It's like inserting (I'm exaggerating but you'll get the idea) an MCU fight scene in something like Casablanca. And as soon as it's over you're back to serious and you won't get that kind of thing for the rest of the movie... Later, as the romance and mystery take over, we're given slightly more info on the universe but never to the point it really matters or we get to really understand. During the resolution of the story, we get to hear the start of a revolution but we were given so little info about a class conflict that it feels like we missed episodes of a TV show. In the last moments, we get to see a slightly more positive ending than expected but then, the situation we're left witnessing kinda raise questions as to how the reminiscence technology they're using in the movie actually works. Ultimately, considering the casting and the core concept which wasn't bad, it felt like a wasted opportunity. 5/10 so glad to see someone else was not enjoying the jukebox moment. it felt wrong on so many levels. and not artsy wrong. just a bad choice. i walked out of the movie 1.5 hours in so i cant comment on the entire film but what I saw I found unbearably bad. Such a fake sounding dialogue and so full of cliche... so empty... uninteresting world (not enough complexity of it and poor set design... compared to John Wick where in fewer shots you get such a rich world building experience) it was such a let down this movie. 3/10 from me if i was to rate and the 3 go toward jackman only everyone else felt too off. (i domt blame them they had shitty lines) Can you let me know the ending (coveres by spoiler tag pls)? Thanks. |
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Post by mecano04 on Aug 25, 2021 0:52:58 GMT
Not exactly remembering what just happened an hour and a half in, I'm gonna go back a bit just in case (in broad points): So, Bannister (Jackman) learns that Mae (Ferguson) had a friend named Elsa (Sarafyan) and he's out to find her then learns she died, being killed but someone actually came in an took her son away.
Looking at other memory cards from his machine, he gets clues and goes to the rich people district, the one that is surrounded by a massive moat.
There the rich widow Sylvan (de Tavira) who has a ton of men taking on the role of her deceased husband, has Bannister re-play her favorite moment but he breaks from the role and begins to ask her questions.
He's taken outside but one henchman notice his tattoo, asks him about his service in the war (something we don't really know much or care about) so he decides to spare him.
Then, looking at more stuff he finds Cyrus Boothe (Curtis), beats him up almost kills him but then decides to save him since he remembers stuff he, Bannister, could use. So after a chase and a fight that feels like they lasted forever, he subdues him then put him in his memory machine at this shop.
There he learns, that Mae had indeed kept things from him, that despite her flaws, she really wanted to be the woman he seemed to believe she could become and that eventually.
He got the confirmation that Mae that was indeed knocking on the door early when he just yelled the shop was closed and she indeed leave an hearing behind (unlike what Watts said that it could have been there for weeks/months/forever). He also learns that Mae was the one who got the Elsa's boy to safety.
He also learns that not seeing any way out she decided to kill herself. Enraged, he decides to have Boother relieve the moment he got burned (doesn't really matter) and leaves him stuck in that memory, basically leaving him with brain damage (as it is said earlier it would cause mental breakdown and tissue damage).
Bannister goes back to see the rich widow's mansion but now he's there for her son.
He has a discussion with him, in which he unfolds the whole story, which is that the old man Sylvan had an affair with Mae's friend which led to her having a son.
Loving that child, the rich man decided to provide for him to make sure he had a decent life but now we learn that his son actually hired Boothe to kill that illegitimate child (and her mom), so he would keep all his father's money.
Then, Bannister says he will reveal the story, the rich kid tries to bribe him to keep his mouth shut, it doesn't work. He grabs a pistol, points it at Bannister but then he turns it against himself but he can't find the strength to do it, since as Bannister said it, he never did things by himself so he wouldn't be able to do it now.
So he leaves, the mansion.
Then we get a scene where Bannister walks the streets as there are riots, and he narrates that after the public heard that story, the population decided to tear down the Barrens (the rich district) and a revolution was coming (not sure how we ever got a clue there was something brewing or some unrest?).
So, since he killed some people but those were some bad people, he got a deal with the police.
He doesn't get to "walk" but he gets to go back to his shop and gets in his machine to relive some moments with Mae.
Then as the narration goes on, about living your life and making memories, there is a transition and we see some hands put flowers in a pot next to the machine and we get to see a white hair Watts, talking with her daughter about Bannister and we get a shot of Bannister in the machine, also aged like Watts and with White hair.
So, it seems he got to relive his memories with Mae forever but never got out of his machine, since Watts brings flowers, like you would do on a tomb for a loved one you lost. Somehow it doesn't explain how he can still live for long simply laying there in a little water... It doesn't make sense.
We get a mostly happy ending. The bad guy are either dead, in prison or insane, the poor people got their revolution to make the world better and Bannister, despite not being able to actually have Mae by his side, gets to live in his memories of her forever. Once again, some elements made me feel like some explanations got cut or it was designed as a bigger work then many things got cut so we get this version of the movie, which leaves quite a bit unexplained.
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Post by Nora on Aug 25, 2021 1:06:37 GMT
Not exactly remembering what just happened an hour and a half in, I'm gonna go back a bit just in case (in broad points): So, Bannister (Jackman) learns that Mae (Ferguson) had a friend named Elsa (Sarafyan) and he's out to find her then learns she died, being killed but someone actually came in an took her son away.
Looking at other memory cards from his machine, he gets clues and goes to the rich people district, the one that is surrounded by a massive moat.
There the rich widow Sylvan (de Tavira) who has a ton of men taking on the role of her deceased husband, has Bannister re-play her favorite moment but he breaks from the role and begins to ask her questions.
He's taken outside but one henchman notice his tattoo, asks him about his service in the war (something we don't really know much or care about) so he decides to spare him.
Then, looking at more stuff he finds Cyrus Boothe (Curtis), beats him up almost kills him but then decides to save him since he remembers stuff he, Bannister, could use. So after a chase and a fight that feels like they lasted forever, he subdues him then put him in his memory machine at this shop.
There he learns, that Mae had indeed kept things from him, that despite her flaws, she really wanted to be the woman he seemed to believe she could become and that eventually.
He got the confirmation that Mae that was indeed knocking on the door early when he just yelled the shop was closed and she indeed leave an hearing behind (unlike what Watts said that it could have been there for weeks/months/forever). He also learns that Mae was the one who got the Elsa's boy to safety.
He also learns that not seeing any way out she decided to kill herself. Enraged, he decides to have Boother relieve the moment he got burned (doesn't really matter) and leaves him stuck in that memory, basically leaving him with brain damage (as it is said earlier it would cause mental breakdown and tissue damage).
Bannister goes back to see the rich widow's mansion but now he's there for her son.
He has a discussion with him, in which he unfolds the whole story, which is that the old man Sylvan had an affair with Mae's friend which led to her having a son.
Loving that child, the rich man decided to provide for him to make sure he had a decent life but now we learn that his son actually hired Boothe to kill that illegitimate child (and her mom), so he would keep all his father's money.
Then, Bannister says he will reveal the story, the rich kid tries to bribe him to keep his mouth shut, it doesn't work. He grabs a pistol, points it at Bannister but then he turns it against himself but he can't find the strength to do it, since as Bannister said it, he never did things by himself so he wouldn't be able to do it now.
So he leaves, the mansion.
Then we get a scene where Bannister walks the streets as there are riots, and he narrates that after the public heard that story, the population decided to tear down the Barrens (the rich district) and a revolution was coming (not sure how we ever got a clue there was something brewing or some unrest?).
So, since he killed some people but those were some bad people, he got a deal with the police.
He doesn't get to "walk" but he gets to go back to his shop and gets in his machine to relive some moments with Mae.
Then as the narration goes on, about living your life and making memories, there is a transition and we see some hands put flowers in a pot next to the machine and we get to see a white hair Watts, talking with her daughter about Bannister and we get a shot of Bannister in the machine, also aged like Watts and with White hair.
So, it seems he got to relive his memories with Mae forever but never got out of his machine, since Watts brings flowers, like you would do on a tomb for a loved one you lost. Somehow it doesn't explain how he can still live for long simply laying there in a little water... It doesn't make sense.
We get a mostly happy ending. The bad guy are either dead, in prison or insane, the poor people got their revolution to make the world better and Bannister, despite not being able to actually have Mae by his side, gets to live in his memories of her forever. Once again, some elements made me feel like some explanations got cut or it was designed as a bigger work then many things got cut so we get this version of the movie, which leaves quite a bit unexplained. omg that seems so convoluted. thank you for the time you took to write this down. |
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Post by mecano04 on Aug 25, 2021 9:38:56 GMT
omg that seems so convoluted. thank you for the time you took to write this down. You're welcome.
Had they stuck with Bannister finding's Mae story and maybe a little drama/mystery/action on the side but not much more , it would probably have been better but as it is, it feels like a mini-series where everything got compressed, with cuts along the way, to fit into 1 movie.
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Post by Vits on Sept 15, 2021 14:36:05 GMT
5/10
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Post by Stammerhead on Sept 15, 2021 15:42:58 GMT
As a gamer, I get a slight feel of Bioshock Infinite mostly for the style. Otherwise, I don't know. It's kind of interesting and it has elements that sort of remind me of Strange Days (1995) and I loved that movie. But a part of me worries if this could wind up a pretentious mess like Transcendence. I enjoyed Transcendence so perhaps it’s good that I don’t run a studio. 
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Post by Nalkarj on Sept 15, 2021 15:56:39 GMT
Watching the trailer—which is better than the very bad movie—made me think of two things: 1. I’m genuinely interested in Reminiscence’s world. Such a great movie could be set there; this, unfortunately, isn’t anywhere near great. 2. Wouldn’t it have been so much more heart-wrenching—and fitting with the film’s themes—if the Ferguson character were an out-and-out villain and killer but the Jackman character used the machine to keep reliving his memories from when he thought she was in love with him anyway? If well done, that’d be emotionally devastating, I think. |
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Post by mecano04 on Sept 17, 2021 21:48:13 GMT
Watching the trailer—which is better than the very bad movie—made me think of two things: 1. I’m genuinely interested in Reminiscence’s world. Such a great movie could be set there; this, unfortunately, isn’t anywhere near great. 2. Wouldn’t it have been so much more heart-wrenching—and fitting with the film’s themes—if the Ferguson character were an out-and-out villain and killer but the Jackman character used the machine to keep reliving his memories from when he thought she was in love with him anyway? If well done, that’d be emotionally devastating, I think. Yup, it feels like you went to a restaurant with a nice reputation, where the meals offered are fine and interesting, the cook and his brigade have some experience but when you finally get your plate, it looks like dog food.
Overall it should work but because some details here and there were wrong, the end result is just a wasted opportunity to have something great.
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