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Post by Nora on Mar 28, 2022 10:47:43 GMT
What do you think about Smith slapping Rock during oscars?
Was it a legit (correct, morally ok, you approved etc) move on Smiths part?
Here is the clip with the joke:
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Post by Jason143 on Mar 28, 2022 10:54:59 GMT
Assuming its real,
Its a b#itch move imo. Makes Smith look bad slapping a smaller, weaker guy publicly to try and look tough.
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Post by Nora on Mar 28, 2022 11:05:09 GMT
Assuming its real, Its a b#itch move imo. Makes Smith look bad slapping a smaller, weaker guy publicly to try and look tough. that aspect is valid too to consider. Rock is considerably smaller and probably in worse shape/ less trained, also under spotlight, being paid to do a job etc. While I do see certain chivalry in what Smith did, I think choosing physical attack as a response to this particular joke, from this particular comedian, at this particular time and place was wrong. Reaction to comedy we dont like should be different (booing, yelling words ok, or leaving in protest). But for comedians to face a physical assault (should society deem this appropriate reaction) when doing their job (however tasteless) is not ok in my book. Removing their platform, (i.e. not consuming their comedy) is the best way to deal with bad comedy, should one see this as bad. But I gotta give credit where credit is due, it added an immense entertainment value thats for sure, to the Oscars. And yeah it was real. Compare with the bad bit of Schumer joking Kirnsten Dunst is a seat filler (more offensive joke in my book, GI Jane was bad ass/sexy, as is Jada) Ps: I am kinda glad its men of the same race on both side, so whoever we side with it cant be said its because of race  . |
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Post by Stammerhead on Mar 28, 2022 11:10:10 GMT
He shouldn’t have hit him but in the end I’m not all that bothered. Unless you hit an ear it’s not easy to cause damage with a slap.  |
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Post by Nora on Mar 28, 2022 11:33:03 GMT
He shouldn’t have hit him but in the end I’m not all that bothered. Unless you hit an ear it’s not easy to cause damage with a slap. yeah. i mean he could have slipped/fell, I was Majorly impressed how well he held up, it looked like a proper slap. I think it didnt belong on stage on this show (where jokes at peoples expense are expected and regular occurance) but I am more entertained than bothered myself. |
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Post by Jason143 on Mar 28, 2022 12:18:49 GMT
Assuming its real, Its a b#itch move imo. Makes Smith look bad slapping a smaller, weaker guy publicly to try and look tough. that aspect is valid too to consider. Rock is considerably smaller and probably in worse shape/ less trained, also under spotlight, being paid to do a job etc. While I do see certain chivalry in what Smith did, I think choosing physical attack as a response to this particular joke, from this particular comedian, at this particular time and place was wrong. Reaction to comedy we dont like should be different (booing, yelling words ok, or leaving in protest). But for comedians to face a physical assault (should society deem this appropriate reaction) when doing their job (however tasteless) is not ok in my book. Removing their platform, (i.e. not consuming their comedy) is the best way to deal with bad comedy, should one see this as bad. But I gotta give credit where credit is due, it added an immense entertainment value thats for sure, to the Oscars. And yeah it was real. Compare with the bad bit of Schumer joking Kirnsten Dunst is a seat filler (more offensive joke in my book, GI Jane was bad ass/sexy, as is Jada) Ps: I am kinda glad its men of the same race on both side, so whoever we side with it cant be said its because of race  . The moment as certainly sparked the world into watching that clip, so the Oscars got their buzz, intentionally or not. I agree the physical attack was the wrong response as it does leave comics open to physical assault. If Will Smith felt that strongly, imagine if he walked up to Chris Rock, grabbed his microphone and told him to dare say that joke again in his face. Would have been more powerful form of protest than going up to the guy and hitting him.
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Post by Stammerhead on Mar 28, 2022 13:11:41 GMT
Mind you, I don’t regard comedians as sacred beasts. Comedy fans love to talk about comedians taking risks and pushing the edge but they don’t actually seem to appreciate the possible outcome of those risks.
If Frankie Boyle had received (more than) a slap I’d have approved.
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Post by msdemos on Mar 28, 2022 13:16:58 GMT
How Will Smith was not escorted out of the building, or at the very least removed from his seat, is beyond me. Kudos to Chris Rock for turning the other cheek by declining to file assault charges with the police.....   SAVE FERRIS
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Post by theauxphou on Mar 28, 2022 14:03:08 GMT
Am I only person in the world to suspect this was staged?  |
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Post by Stammerhead on Mar 28, 2022 14:12:19 GMT
Am I only person in the world to suspect this was staged?
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Post by movielover on Mar 28, 2022 14:23:06 GMT
Am I only person in the world to suspect this was staged? No, you’re not. It looked to me like contrived, staged BS to get people talking about the Oscars.
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Post by politicidal on Mar 28, 2022 14:24:09 GMT
No, it wasn’t. Even if it seems Chris Rock took it in stride and carried in with the show. The joke that Chris Rock told was pretty tame compared to his usual schtick.
I am a big Will Smith fan but he cast a dark cloud over what’s perhaps the most important night for his career. He did apologize to the Academy but he should reach out to publicly mend things and with Chris Rock.
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Post by msdemos on Mar 28, 2022 14:38:43 GMT
They DO have a security team at the Oscars, right ?? You see it all the time now at concerts (and at sporting events)......the minute ANYBODY steps on stage (or on the field/court), security is almost always on them in a FLASH. I know it happened VERY fast but what, exactly, does it take before anybody from security gets out there to intercede when somebody else comes up on stage that's not supposed to be there ??   SAVE FERRIS
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Post by Ass_E9 on Mar 28, 2022 15:10:36 GMT
Am I only person in the world to suspect this was staged? "Let's just say it is a most welcome distraction that the West will be eating up for days."
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Post by PreachCaleb on Mar 28, 2022 15:14:27 GMT
Considering he dropped an F bomb twice, I doubt it was staged.
It's funny though, I thought it was the millennials who can't take jokes anymore. Hopefully all those comedians complaining that they can't tell a joke without a twitter backlash will now realize, "Well, at least Will Smith isn't slapping the taste out of my mouth in front of the whole country."
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Post by DanaShelbyChancey on Mar 28, 2022 15:31:34 GMT
One of the rules if you are in the audience of an event, you don't rush the stage for any reason. The security was pretty lax letting an audience member, anyone, slap a performer. A security guard should have gotten between Smith & Rock or at least tried to. There was time, security at an event such as the Oscars should be well-trained.
Words, no matter how inflammatory, are not justification for a physical attack. These days, Will Smith could be on Twitter right now, ripping Chris Rock a new one for what he said. The slap was too much for a lame joke.
I think will Smith should have been escorted offstage.
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Post by hi224 on Mar 28, 2022 15:35:16 GMT
No, it wasn’t. Even if it seems Chris Rock took it in stride and carried in with the show. The joke that Chris Rock told was pretty tame compared to his usual schtick. I am a big Will Smith fan but he cast a dark cloud over what’s perhaps the most important night for his career. He did apologize to the Academy but he should reach out to publicly mend things and with Chris Rock. he'll likely not be nominated again.
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Post by Sarge on Mar 28, 2022 16:38:07 GMT
It was an issue between 2 men and they handled it like men. No outside intervention necessary.
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Post by divtal on Mar 28, 2022 16:42:41 GMT
Am I only person in the world to suspect this was staged? I don't know if it was planned/rehearsed. But, that punch was definitely a "stage" punch, delivered by a trained actor. The impact is audible, and strong. Had it landed anywhere on Chris Rock's person, he would, at least, have reeled back a few steps ... if not have gone down. But, he only leaned to his side, otherwise maintaining full poise and posture. There are slo-mos on YouTube, that show Smith's left hand coming up, and taking the impact from his own right fist. Had it not been for Smith's verbal outburst, after the fact, I'd have been wholly convinced that it was fully staged. Smith even laughed at the offending joke, before seeing his wife's reaction.
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Post by DanaShelbyChancey on Mar 28, 2022 17:34:28 GMT
It was an issue between 2 men and they handled it like men. No outside intervention necessary. I think they handled it like 2 fifth-graders in a schoolyard. I keep thinking where was Oscar security. That should not have been allowed to happen.
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