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Post by soapwatch on Feb 22, 2017 0:57:30 GMT
The flashbacks of her back then have been great to see.
It almost seems the show was so good back then.
I never knew the Jeromes actually dated that far back.
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Post by jarrodmcdonald on Feb 22, 2017 1:19:07 GMT
It always seems like the stuff from the 80s and early 90s was the best. Of course these flashbacks give us a chance to see how much the performers have aged.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2017 2:57:17 GMT
Truthfully, the Jeromes come from the absolute worst era of GH, 1987-1990. There was some good stuff going on in that era, such as Grant Putnam's return and his abduction of Anna, but 90% of the stories from that era were terrible, including most of the Jerome stuff. Victor Jerome had what I think is probably the all time dumbest death in the history of daytime, choking to death on Lucy's necklace.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2017 4:28:15 GMT
I've always loved it when the show uses flashbacks. When done correctly they can add a lot of meat to a story.
I wish they would have used more flashbacks for some of the stories from 2012 onward that relied heavily on GH history.
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Post by Royale H. Oaks on Feb 22, 2017 5:33:27 GMT
So there was life in port charles before scummy surfaced!
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Post by cosmoeticadotcom on Feb 22, 2017 14:32:54 GMT
87-90 was hardly the worst era in GH history. It was a slight downturn but the Jeromes, Grant's Snowman, the Dusty Walker saga, the island saga w Jason, Karen and Jagger seem like genius compared to the 21st C. It was even better than 2012, the best year this century. It's perspective.
I'm tired of the new writers retconning crap like Robin saying all the Jeromes were crazy. Julian was NOT and he tracked down Grant and SAVED Anna. Olivia was crazy but Victor and Julian were not.
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Post by cosmoeticadotcom on Feb 22, 2017 14:33:41 GMT
Can we get post to post replies so that our replies to others do not come many posts down in the thread?
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Post by jarrodmcdonald on Feb 22, 2017 14:49:18 GMT
I've always loved it when the show uses flashbacks. When done correctly they can add a lot of meat to a story. I wish they would have used more flashbacks for some of the stories from 2012 onward that relied heavily on GH history.
Flashbacks are best when they have limited use and have direct bearing on stories with forward momentum. I remember when MacDonald Carey died and they wrote his death into 'Days of Our Lives' and had Tom Horton also pass away. We had an entire week of people coming back to town for his funeral and they all had little clips of interacting with him from 1968 to 1993. It was nostalgic (reflecting the show's history) and yet it symbolized how they all carried a piece of him with them as they moved forward. That's how to do it in my opinion. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2017 15:29:41 GMT
I agree, Jarrod. I thought the insertion of the elevator flashback immediately after Olivia heard Anna's voice a few weeks ago was a good example of how to effectively use a flashback. It was brief and gave the younger viewer enough background to establish a deep and long term rivalry between Anna and Olivia.
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Post by cosmoeticadotcom on Feb 22, 2017 15:37:59 GMT
I agree, Jarrod. I thought the insertion of the elevator flashback immediately after Olivia heard Anna's voice a few weeks ago was a good example of how to effectively use a flashback. It was brief and gave the younger viewer enough background to establish a deep and long term rivalry between Anna and Olivia. They fixed the prob they had a few years ago where old 80s clips were somehow skewed and out of proportion. |
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Post by soapwatch on Feb 22, 2017 18:16:09 GMT
I'm tired of the new writers retconning crap like Robin saying all the Jeromes were crazy. Julian was NOT and he tracked down Grant and SAVED Anna. Olivia was crazy but Victor and Julian were not. Interesting info. Tends to contradict all Anna has been saying about wanting Julian dead, etc. Makes me wonder if the actors even keep up with the history. We can let DeVry slide since he wasn't the Julian back then and possibly McCullough since she was so little but Finola and the rest should know the new writer's material is off since they were there. |
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Post by cosmoeticadotcom on Feb 22, 2017 20:03:14 GMT
For years many have been complaining over the demonization of Julian. He turned bad AFTER Olivia ried to kill him, after he found out Cheryl cut him out of Lucas's life, after Victor bullied him for being wimpy, and after Duke and Anna started blaming him. He was the original reluctant mobster whose template led to Sonny.
Olivia was the template for Faith and all the other crazy bitches of the last 25 years- Carly and Ava included.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2017 17:24:04 GMT
The writers have cherry-picked GH history and made changes for as long as I can remember. It's gotten especially bad in the last decade and a half. A good example was when Anna and Holly both returned in 2005, or so. They were written to loathe each other on sight and took up like old enemies. Well, anyone who watched 1991-92 knew that Anna and Holly were not vicious rivals over Robert at all. In fact, Holly went as far as to go on the local news with Tiffany and Nanny to try to appeal to Faison to let Anna go free and leave everyone alone. They were allies in the 90's, but the writers chose to throw that out for the sake of a verbal cat-fight between Anna & Holly in 2005.
There have been other instances like this one, but I thought this was one of the more jarring changes.
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Post by jarrodmcdonald on Feb 24, 2017 21:20:02 GMT
The writers have cherry-picked GH history and made changes for as long as I can remember. It's gotten especially bad in the last decade and a half. A good example was when Anna and Holly both returned in 2005, or so. They were written to loathe each other on sight and took up like old enemies. Well, anyone who watched 1991-92 knew that Anna and Holly were not vicious rivals over Robert at all. In fact, Holly went as far as to go on the local news with Tiffany and Nanny to try to appeal to Faison to let Anna go free and leave everyone alone. They were allies in the 90's, but the writers chose to throw that out for the sake of a verbal cat-fight between Anna & Holly in 2005. There have been other instances like this one, but I thought this was one of the more jarring changes.
As a rule I'm against verbal catfights on daytime soaps, because most scriptwriters have no idea how to do it right-- it should be more than lobbing insults, there should be humor and truth in the barbs. But this genre has a lot of amateurish dialogue, and it just makes the characters seem unoriginal if the best they can do is call each other the 'b' word.
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