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Post by lune7000 on Jun 21, 2022 22:28:22 GMT
Americans are reading fewer books, a Gallup poll this year confirms it: news.gallup.com/poll/388541/americans-reading-fewer-books-past.aspxNovels are also being read less: AMERICANS ARE READING FEWER NOVELS, BUT MORE POETRY psmag.com/news/americans-are-reading-fewer-novels-but-more-poetryGiven how many past novels have been turned into movies I am wondering if fewer movies are being made from novels today. Most of the well known novelist seem to come from and earlier age and are quite old now. I can't think of any up and coming writer that is as well now as John Grisham or Stephan King. Are many movies still being made from novels or is that long tradition finally dying?
thanks for any replies
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Post by lowtacks86 on Jun 21, 2022 22:32:25 GMT
Well Stephen King was more than just an author, he was basically a brand, a great way to sell a movie ("Based on a Stephen King novel"). Tom Clancy had the brand name recgonition for a while (there were even video games made using his name, even if he had nothing to do with them)
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Post by moviemouth on Jun 21, 2022 23:06:26 GMT
Probably.
At least that are based on very famous novels.
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Post by politicidal on Jun 21, 2022 23:08:42 GMT
Perhaps. I think more novels should be adapted on film. Be something different than a reboot or sequel.
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Post by gw on Jun 21, 2022 23:38:36 GMT
Two things I want to mention. First, are there more graphic novel adaptations since it's more of a visual media already? That, and since books have inner thoughts and movies don't so much, especially outside of the main character, at least outside of anime, I wonder if that has any effect on the lack of adaptations.
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Post by phantomparticle on Jun 21, 2022 23:55:00 GMT
During the Silent and Classic era books and plays from the great writers (Hugo, Dickens, Shakespeare) and modern authors (Steinbeck, Hemmingway, Hammett) were made and remade (sometimes under various titles) at what now looks like a dizzying pace.
Libraries, publishing houses and magazines were scoured to fill the quota of theatrical releases, but that system came crashing down with the decline of the studio system and the advent of cable tv where producers could shoot the most complex literature in the mini-series format and not have to worry about disemboweling the source material to fit a two-or-three-hour time slot.
It worked for a generation of so until the modern digital age of 900 channel television and no possibility of filling them all with intelligently written scripts. That is why we get "reality" dreck like Love After Lockup and Bridezillas. You have to scour your tv menu to find the pearls and hope it isn't in a pay-per-view package you don't have or can't afford.
The publishing industry that purchased and marketed books of authors has changed. Bookstores have disappeared across the country, replaced by digital appliances you can carry in your pocket.
I don't follow publishing statistics, so I can't say whether or not readership is actually down or what anyone is reading, although kids seem to have completely abandoned The Three Musketeers and Robinson Crusoe for Spiderman and the Marvel Universe.
It is a far cry from To Kill A Mockingbird and a sad commentary on the intellectual level of education in the country today.
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Post by lune7000 on Jun 22, 2022 3:41:53 GMT
During the Silent and Classic era books and plays from the great writers (Hugo, Dickens, Shakespeare) and modern authors (Steinbeck, Hemmingway, Hammett) were made and remade (sometimes under various titles) at what now looks like a dizzying pace. Libraries, publishing houses and magazines were scoured to fill the quota of theatrical releases, but that system came crashing down with the decline of the studio system and the advent of cable tv where producers could shoot the most complex literature in the mini-series format and not have to worry about disemboweling the source material to fit a two-or-three-hour time slot. It worked for a generation of so until the modern digital age of 900 channel television and no possibility of filling them all with intelligently written scripts. That is why we get "reality" dreck like Love After Lockup and Bridezillas. You have to scour your tv menu to find the pearls and hope it isn't in a pay-per-view package you don't have or can't afford. The publishing industry that purchased and marketed books of authors has changed. Bookstores have disappeared across the country, replaced by digital appliances you can carry in your pocket. I don't follow publishing statistics, so I can't say whether or not readership is actually down or what anyone is reading, although kids seem to have completely abandoned The Three Musketeers and Robinson Crusoe for Spiderman and the Marvel Universe. It is a far cry from To Kill A Mockingbird and a sad commentary on the intellectual level of education in the country today. I learned stuff I didn't know from this- thanks
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Post by lune7000 on Jun 22, 2022 3:48:24 GMT
Two things I want to mention. First, are there more graphic novel adaptations since it's more of a visual media already? That, and since books have inner thoughts and movies don't so much, especially outside of the main character, at least outside of anime, I wonder if that has any effect on the lack of adaptations. I wondered about graphic novels also. The first Marvel superhero movies were pretty firmly based on plots that occurred in the comics. Since I am old enough to have read the 60's/70's comics in the original, I recognized the stories. In fact, my main interest was seeing how those stories would be treated. Even iconic comic scenes were repeated. I quit reading comics by the 80's so I am not as up on the plot lines that occurred after then except for a few (Civil War). But it seems to me that the last 3-5 years of superhero movies have also abandoned following the source material and is 100% new. I might be wrong on this- someone more versed in comics could correct me. This would mirror the trend of other movies abandoning novels and moving to totally original screenplays.
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Post by gw on Jun 22, 2022 4:25:46 GMT
Two things I want to mention. First, are there more graphic novel adaptations since it's more of a visual media already? That, and since books have inner thoughts and movies don't so much, especially outside of the main character, at least outside of anime, I wonder if that has any effect on the lack of adaptations. I wondered about graphic novels also. The first Marvel superhero movies were pretty firmly based on plots that occurred in the comics. Since I am old enough to have read the 60's/70's comics in the original, I recognized the stories. In fact, my main interest was seeing how those stories would be treated. Even iconic comic scenes were repeated. I quit reading comics by the 80's so I am not as up on the plot lines that occurred after then except for a few (Civil War). But it seems to me that the last 3-5 years of superhero movies have also abandoned following the source material and is 100% new. I might be wrong on this- someone more versed in comics could correct me. This would mirror the trend of other movies abandoning novels and moving to totally original screenplays. I should have clarified that I was thinking of graphic novels in general, not necessarily superheroes in particular. I've only read Watchmen, Justice, and old school stuff like some old children's superhero comics and Stardust and other Fletcher Hanks heroes. I'm sure that there's people on the DC and Marvel boards here who know much more than I do. I've watched a lot of animated superhero content, and much of that seems to still be based on comics like The Killing Joke, Batman: The Dark Knight Returns and all that but I don't know much about the live action movies and series or the original comics that everything is based on. Edit for clarification. I read other stuff from Maus and Watchmen to some of Osamu Tezuka's more adult aimed manga. True Swamp, various Image Comics stuff. For me, superheroes are only one part of comics and I wish more people saw it that way.
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Post by twothousandonemark on Jun 22, 2022 6:07:02 GMT
Well, I do feel like non-fiction still moves the screenplay needle yes? I'm probably imagining that, so whatevsalad.
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Post by mstreepsucks on Jun 23, 2022 2:08:53 GMT
It would make sense that fewer films are adapted from novels yea.
Because the era that films were adapted from novels was before technology ruined everything.
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