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Post by Power Ranger on Jul 30, 2022 4:12:37 GMT
Before you tell me that is ridiculous, remember that Dr Strange was dropped from WandaVision because they wanted to avoid Dr Strange ‘mansplaining’ to Wanda.
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Jul 30, 2022 4:31:03 GMT
"Mutant Identifying Persons"
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Post by Power Ranger on Jul 30, 2022 5:41:46 GMT
Are our resident board wokesters happy with this? Were they ever thinking two steps ahead that wokeism would go too far?
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Post by spooner5020 on Jul 30, 2022 12:37:25 GMT
…..No? Even the most recent X-men movie was just called The New Mutants. Honestly it was probably to not have any connection to the Fox movies which is understandable.
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Post by scabab on Jul 31, 2022 17:33:17 GMT
X-Them.
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Post by Skaathar on Jul 31, 2022 18:55:40 GMT
I'm pretty sure that's the case, but we'll know better if they actually change the name of the team or if they'll limit it to changing just the title. Title change only can mean it's simply an artistic change. But if they change both title and team name to something other than X-men, then feel like that makes it clear it's because they don't want the term "men" in the name.
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Post by spooner5020 on Jul 31, 2022 21:03:56 GMT
I'm pretty sure that's the case, but we'll know better if they actually change the name of the team or if they'll limit it to changing just the title. Title change only can mean it's simply an artistic change. But if they change both title and team name to something other than X-men, then feel like that makes it clear it's because they don't want the term "men" in the name. Then why would they have Man in Spider-MAN? |
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Post by Nicko's Nose on Jul 31, 2022 21:07:57 GMT
I'm pretty sure that's the case, but we'll know better if they actually change the name of the team or if they'll limit it to changing just the title. Title change only can mean it's simply an artistic change. But if they change both title and team name to something other than X-men, then feel like that makes it clear it's because they don't want the term "men" in the name. Then why would they have Man in Spider-MAN? Because he’s a dude? X-Men is the name for both male and female mutants. I’m guessing they don’t want the name X-Men because there are women in the team as well. Not implying I agree with changing the name by the way.
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Post by Power Ranger on Jul 31, 2022 23:32:40 GMT
Maybe they’re saving the name ‘X-Men’ for a team of transwomen?
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Post by thisguy4000 on Aug 1, 2022 3:16:41 GMT
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Post by spooner5020 on Aug 2, 2022 21:42:51 GMT
And that just destroyed the thread. |
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Post by mstreepsucks on Aug 2, 2022 21:57:21 GMT
They don't want to call it the same thing, because that'd be confusing? And it's called x men '97, because x men that started in 1992 ran until 1997. And x men 97 will take place in 1997. I guess.
Oh wait, maybe I got it wrong... Maybe the point is, they already have a thing coming out in 2023 called x men. So therefore , using that name wouldn't be a problem?
But maybe, they have to call it that, because what it's based on is called X-men. So in that case they have to use the same name. Because it's a continuation of xmen 1992 - 1997.
But they don't have to call the new x-men film x-men though, so possibly that's why they change it to the Mutants.
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Post by Skaathar on Aug 2, 2022 23:00:59 GMT
And that just destroyed the thread. Why would it destroy the thread? That link is to a completely different show from the movie.
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Post by James on Aug 2, 2022 23:10:27 GMT
And that just destroyed the thread. Why would it destroy the thread? That link is to a completely different show from the movie. Yeah, that is the 90s cartoon continuation. Completely different from the MCU movie happening. |
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Post by thisguy4000 on Aug 3, 2022 0:06:30 GMT
And that just destroyed the thread. Why would it destroy the thread? That link is to a completely different show from the movie. My point was that Disney and Marvel clearly still have no problem using the X-Men name.
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Post by politicidal on Aug 3, 2022 0:14:29 GMT
They don't want to call it the same thing, because that'd be confusing? And it's called x men '97, because x men that started in 1992 ran until 1997. And x men 97 will take place in 1997. I guess.
Oh wait, maybe I got it wrong... Maybe the point is, they already have a thing coming out in 2023 called x men. So therefore , using that name wouldn't be a problem?
But maybe, they have to call it that, because what it's based on is called X-men. So in that case they have to use the same name. Because it's a continuation of xmen 1992 - 1997.
But they don't have to call the new x-men film x-men though, so possibly that's why they change it to the Mutants.
You might be onto something, Joey.
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Post by Skaathar on Aug 3, 2022 0:29:23 GMT
Why would it destroy the thread? That link is to a completely different show from the movie. My point was that Disney and Marvel clearly still have no problem using the X-Men name. Yeah... not quite the same thing though. That link you posted was a show that's a direct continuation of a series titled X-Men. So obviously they wouldn't want to rename that because it's an already existing show. They rename it and they shoot themselves in the foot, losing whatever momentum the original show already had. In comparison, the movie we're discussing in this thread is a reboot (or maybe a reimagining), meaning it's a completely new continuity. If they had a problem with the name "X-Men" and wanted to change it then there wouldn't be anything else to stop them from renaming it other than brand recognition.
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Post by thisguy4000 on Aug 3, 2022 1:00:11 GMT
My point was that Disney and Marvel clearly still have no problem using the X-Men name. Yeah... not quite the same thing though. That link you posted was a show that's a direct continuation of a series titled X-Men. So obviously they wouldn't want to rename that because it's an already existing show. They rename it and they shoot themselves in the foot, losing whatever momentum the original show already had. In comparison, the movie we're discussing in this thread is a reboot (or maybe a reimagining), meaning it's a completely new continuity. If they had a problem with the name "X-Men" and wanted to change it then there wouldn't be anything else to stop them from renaming it other than brand recognition. If they truly believed that X-Men is a problematic title, I would think they would’ve ceased using the title altogether at this point. We’re not even sure if the MCU X-Men film will be called ‘The Mutants’, so it’s pure conjecture at this point.
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Post by Skaathar on Aug 3, 2022 1:50:17 GMT
Yeah... not quite the same thing though. That link you posted was a show that's a direct continuation of a series titled X-Men. So obviously they wouldn't want to rename that because it's an already existing show. They rename it and they shoot themselves in the foot, losing whatever momentum the original show already had. In comparison, the movie we're discussing in this thread is a reboot (or maybe a reimagining), meaning it's a completely new continuity. If they had a problem with the name "X-Men" and wanted to change it then there wouldn't be anything else to stop them from renaming it other than brand recognition. If they truly believed that X-Men is a problematic title, I would think they would’ve ceased using the title altogether at this point. We’re not even sure if the MCU X-Men film will be called ‘The Mutants’, so it’s pure conjecture at this point. You talk as if the world is black and white. It isn't, it's varying shades of grey. If the MCU truly disliked the name "X-Men", they still need to weigh that against the risk of trying to continue an existing series with a completely different name. The MCU has been doing a lot of stupid things lately but they're not complete fools. But again, that's neither here nor there since that cartoon series is not what were talking about. So let's go back to talking about the movie. |
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Post by thisguy4000 on Aug 3, 2022 1:54:52 GMT
If they truly believed that X-Men is a problematic title, I would think they would’ve ceased using the title altogether at this point. We’re not even sure if the MCU X-Men film will be called ‘The Mutants’, so it’s pure conjecture at this point. You talk as if the world is black and white. It isn't, it's varying shades of grey. If the MCU truly disliked the name "X-Men", they still need to weigh that against the risk of trying to continue an existing series with a completely different name. The MCU has been doing a lot of stupid things lately but they're not complete fools. But again, that's neither here nor there since that cartoon series is not what were talking about. So let's go back to talking about the movie. I just can’t imagine why Disney or Marvel would take issue with the title to begin with. It’s been a thing for 60 years, and I don’t think I’ve ever seen anyone who genuinely considers the title problematic. In fact, X-Men has consistently been praised as a progressive comic book series with a notable LGBT fanbase.
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