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Post by ShadowSouL: Padawan of Yoda on Oct 19, 2022 2:58:46 GMT
After 5 years?
10 years?
20 years?
30 years?
After it's released?
After it's recorded?
Updated Extra Question: What about reissued or newly released previously unreleased material? New or old?
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Post by gw on Oct 19, 2022 3:18:13 GMT
I'd say that it becomes dated when a new trend comes along that renders it outdated. It could be outdated in a bad or a good way. Early funk and disco became dated in a relatively good way because they could afford a whole orchestra whereas later groups had to make due with smaller bands. Obviously funk ended up better off than disco after it got banned but that's a slightly different topic. Rock and roll, literal rock and roll, became outdated because it was surpassed by later rock music that took it in a more sophisticated direction. I'd say that music becomes outdated once its ideas become part of a larger culture and that can happen fairly quickly. Most music is mainstream fodder within 5 years and outdated soon after.
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Post by jamesottosweetheart on Oct 19, 2022 8:16:16 GMT
Depending on what the songs are about and who sings them, in my opinion, never.
God bless you always!!!
Holly
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Post by Feologild Oakes on Oct 19, 2022 9:01:01 GMT
Good music never gets old or outdated.
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Post by Zos on Oct 19, 2022 11:53:58 GMT
Never.
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Oct 19, 2022 13:50:00 GMT
Never, never, never I say. Especially since music is as dead as dead
Ask Beethoven and Tchaikovsky if their music is still relevant.
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Post by alpha128 on Oct 20, 2022 1:48:11 GMT
Good music never gets old or outdated. My thoughts exactly!
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Post by lowtacks86 on Oct 21, 2022 1:24:26 GMT
Well a scene/genre/music tend burns out after 5 years or so (by that I mean all the big bands name bands from that scene break up, move on to a different sound, or become irrelevant and the overall fanbase diminishes greatly) and then usually another 5 years after that for people to look back and think "What the fuck were we thinking?" (ie "outdated"). Nu-metal is the ultimate example of this, the genre blew up in the late 90s, by the mid 2000s or so the genre was dying though there were still (unfortunately) some big acts still selling quite well (Korn, Limp Bizkit) and by the 2010s the genre was seen as something incredibly lame and a regretable relic of the late 90s (that Limp Bizkit joke in Deadpool comes to mind).
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Oct 21, 2022 12:21:23 GMT
Kids will say that the party music of their older brother or sister is outdated. It's probably some 3 years old. Your parents will say that the music of their youth is not and never will be.
I could say that some of Beethoven (1770-1827) or Ockeghem (1410-1497) is still relevant to me, yet I can't be bothered with much of what I listened to at 18. Most of music is like jokes. Fun the first time.
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Post by NJtoTX on Oct 21, 2022 13:34:18 GMT
Some music just goes on hiatus for a while. A lot of seemingly outdated music rises from the dead. When we Boomers are dead and gone our music will survive or be revived. Our kids will pass it to our grandkids, etc
I still play 1930s stuff.
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Oct 21, 2022 21:46:31 GMT
I still listen to the Classic Rock stuff that I grew up with. Yeah, I've probably heard some on these songs 100,000,000 times. Doesn't mean they are stale. And many have great memories that are triggered when I hear them. Singing "Beast of Burden" with the ridiculously hot Tawny McIntosh at a HS talent show. Singing "Smells Like Teen Spirit" in the car driving in downtown NYC with my best friend (he dropped dead two months later). Slow dancing with my wife to "Ain't Even Done With the Night" on our first date.
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Post by 博:Dr.BLΔD€:锯 on Nov 13, 2022 22:08:04 GMT
Gonna have a slightly , long-winded blurb here. A year or so ago, my girlfriend said to me "Are we getting old". This was related to the current chart ' music' we were subjected to over the speakers at our office job.
Girls with heavy colds mouthing to audiotech voice thingys and guy's pretending to be nasal plastic Jamaicans ranting stylee about youth angst and/or sh!te.
I said NO. My rationale encompassed the fact that 9O% of the the youngsters at work ( post teens and mid to late 2o's) were pleading for 80's radio stations as they detested the knock-out current phlumpf crap.
Then the offer came up to check out via Internet ANY week in the 8O's top twenty singles charts and how many songs folk still knew. Whichever week was checked out....nearly all and sundry knew and grooved to 90% of those songs.
Whereas the general consensus was that the current chart stuff would not be be recognised in 8 months time.
There are at least 20 or so current acts that I personally think are brilliant at the moment.....but the singles charts and pushed shite on the radio is knockout and throwaway phlumpf.
Good music never dates....and N0, we are Not getting old.
End of long waffle. X
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Post by gw on Nov 14, 2022 4:56:10 GMT
Gonna have a slightly , long-winded blurb here. A year or so ago, my girlfriend said to me "Are we getting old". This was related to the current chart ' music' we were subjected to over the speakers at our office job. Girls with heavy colds mouthing to audiotech voice thingys and guy's pretending to be nasal plastic Jamaicans ranting stylee about youth angst and/or sh!te. I said NO. My rationale encompassed the fact that 9O% of the the youngsters at work ( post teens and mid to late 2o's) were pleading for 80's radio stations as they detested the knock-out current phlumpf crap. Then the offer came up to check out via Internet ANY week in the 8O's top twenty singles charts and how many songs folk still knew. Whichever week was checked out....nearly all and sundry knew and grooved to 90% of those songs. Whereas the general consensus was that the current chart stuff would not be be recognised in 8 months time. There are at least 20 or so current acts that I personally think are brilliant at the moment.....but the singles charts and pushed shite on the radio is knockout and throwaway phlumpf. Good music never dates....and N0, we are Not getting old. End of long waffle. X I think that there are two sides to the coin here. On one hand we all like plenty of older music. What we like once we can still like years later. On the other, there's trends and technological developments that either date music or give us too much of one thing so we move on and come back to it later. The thing is that the most popular developments have been mixed at best. In the 50's the electric guitar became popular while in the mid 2000's we got autotune and standardized digital drum tracks instead of real drummers even on regular songs. It's not all the creators at fault as audiences haven't bought music like they had before but I don't want to get too far off subject. The point is that we haven't had the sort of dividing technology that has made the new new and the old old or at least not one that favors the new music over the old.
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Post by amyghost on Nov 14, 2022 20:22:03 GMT
Music only becomes 'outdated' in the ear of the listener. Otherwise the term has no relevance per se, as far as music goes.
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Post by Admin on Nov 15, 2022 9:23:49 GMT
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