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Post by Power Ranger on Feb 9, 2023 16:12:32 GMT
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Post by Jason143 on Feb 9, 2023 16:14:15 GMT
Streaming sucks in general.
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Post by MCDemuth on Feb 9, 2023 16:46:32 GMT
Disney sucks these days... And many people can't afford to subscribe to dozens of streaming services.
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Post by Skaathar on Feb 9, 2023 17:16:44 GMT
They don't have enough new content to keep up with other big streaming sites. Their main draw before were the MCU D+ shows, but their initial batch has completed and they're not releasing anything else for some time. Even then, there's no big titles on the horizon.
I would have already cancelled my D+ subscription if they hadn't bundled in Star with their subscription. At least that gave it a bit more diverse content.
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Post by novastar6 on Feb 9, 2023 17:55:17 GMT
Go woke, get broke inDEEEEEEEEED.
They would NOT be having these problems if they went back to the formula of the 60s-90s.
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Post by Power Ranger on Feb 9, 2023 18:07:06 GMT
They don't have enough new content to keep up with other big streaming sites. Their main draw before were the MCU D+ shows, but their initial batch has completed and they're not releasing anything else for some time. Even then, there's no big titles on the horizon. I would have already cancelled my D+ subscription if they hadn't bundled in Star with their subscription. At least that gave it a bit more diverse content. There would be enough new content if it were good. We’d be watching it all twice or three times each. The Simpsons is the most streamed show on Disney+ LOL. |
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Post by thisguy4000 on Feb 9, 2023 18:16:37 GMT
Weren’t most of the subs they lost from India?
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Post by Power Ranger on Feb 9, 2023 18:33:26 GMT
Weren’t most of the subs they lost from India? Oh, yeah, I just read that. I thought it was because everyone hates their content, which is the case. Maybe they keep growing because it’s so cheap and people keep it to make their kids happy. |
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Post by onethreetwo on Feb 9, 2023 18:51:35 GMT
They are making some really weird decisions. Nobody wanted (or watched) Andor, but they clearly gave it a massive budget. People have been asking for Obi-Wan for years and it was a piece of shit, visually and in story. Does Willow even have a fandom? I don't know what they're thinking.
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Post by politicidal on Feb 9, 2023 19:13:14 GMT
They are making some really weird decisions. Nobody wanted (or watched) Andor, but they clearly gave it a massive budget. People have been asking for Obi-Wan for years and it was a piece of shit, visually and in story. Does Willow even have a fandom? I don't know what they're thinking. There was some novels written in the nineties about the baby girl all grown up. But that's all I can recall. |
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Post by formersamhmd on Feb 9, 2023 20:10:39 GMT
Go woke, get broke inDEEEEEEEEED. They would NOT be having these problems if they went back to the formula of the 60s-90s. It's "Stay Asleep, Stay a Sheep" actually.
And this is an exaggerated report to stir up controversy, the ones canceling are irate Indians made at the programming not being more conservative.
Insignificant losses.
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Post by blockbusted on Feb 9, 2023 21:07:02 GMT
Go woke, get broke inDEEEEEEEEED. They would NOT be having these problems if they went back to the formula of the 60s-90s. It's "Stay Asleep, Stay a Sheep" actually.
And this is an exaggerated report to stir up controversy, the ones canceling are irate Indians made at the programming not being more conservative.
Insignificant losses.
And does he not realize that 70s and 80s were Disney’s worst dark age? |
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Post by Prime etc. on Feb 9, 2023 21:38:10 GMT
Disney ain't hurting for cash.
They get taxpayer money to prop them up. Subsidies from states.
And in the 70s Disney was still an independent company.
The problem it had was that Walt Disney was the brain of the operation and without him there
it just couldn't steer.
Being bought out by hedge fund managers doesn't really amount to much because they just poured more corporate money into it.
Disney was a loved company in the 70s and 80s--now it is despised by many families.
Good job Robert.
If it was any other business--it would be suicide.
Imagine a baby food manufacturer deciding to add vinegar to its products.
This is how Disney management thinks.
How can it add more vinegar to the formula and force people to buy it because they bought out all the competition.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2023 22:03:04 GMT
It’s remarkable how unprofitable these streeeaming “services” are turning out to be. Even Netflix has supposedly been in debt for years. I wonder if this keeps up will companies start abandoning them entirely?
I can’t fathom why people pay money every month for DisneyFlix. These shows are so massively overrated. What are the best ones? WandaVision? Mandalorian? Mediocre and overhyped.
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Post by Lux on Feb 9, 2023 22:15:05 GMT
Streaming sucks in general. Streaming now is abhorrent. HBO is trying but will ultimately die too. |
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Post by blockbusted on Feb 9, 2023 22:48:03 GMT
Disney ain't hurting for cash. They get taxpayer money to prop them up. Subsidies from states. And in the 70s Disney was still an independent company. The problem it had was that Walt Disney was the brain of the operation and without him there it just couldn't steer. Being bought out by hedge fund managers doesn't really amount to much because they just poured more corporate money into it. Disney was a loved company in the 70s and 80s--now it is despised by many families. Good job Robert. If it was any other business--it would be suicide. Imagine a baby food manufacturer deciding to add vinegar to its products. This is how Disney management thinks. How can it add more vinegar to the formula and force people to buy it because they bought out all the competition. This is an obvious and pathetic attempt at revisionism. Disney was actually kind of looked down upon during 70s and 80s. It wasn’t until 1989 when they became a powerhouse again. |
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Post by novastar6 on Feb 9, 2023 23:16:58 GMT
It's "Stay Asleep, Stay a Sheep" actually.
And this is an exaggerated report to stir up controversy, the ones canceling are irate Indians made at the programming not being more conservative.
Insignificant losses.
And does he not realize that 70s and 80s were Disney’s worst dark age?
They still had better movies then than the crap they're putting out now.
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Post by blockbusted on Feb 9, 2023 23:22:41 GMT
And does he not realize that 70s and 80s were Disney’s worst dark age?
They still had better movies then than the crap they're putting out now.
Dude, don’t be silly. Their animation division almost went under when ‘The Black Cauldron’ floundered, not to mention that their animation quality went really downhill during this time. ‘Robin Hood’, in particular, was notorious for reusing animation from their previous films so many times. |
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Post by Prime etc. on Feb 9, 2023 23:42:43 GMT
This is an obvious and pathetic attempt at revisionism. Disney was actually kind of looked down upon during 70s and 80s. It wasn’t until 1989 when they became a powerhouse again.
The Wonderful World of Disney was a big tv hit and the very reason they were being sought after was because of the positive brand recognition with families. Their problem was that they were known for animation originally and were floundering--i.e. the exodus of Don Bluth. They made Dragonslayer with Paramount (Eisner was there) but that was a big change from the family film.
I remember Eisner in 1988 saying that a) they hated making animation but it was the company legacy and they had to do it--Oliver and Company.
and b) he said it was lucky that the company was bought by people who want to do good and not evil because the influence of the brand was "awesome." A strange comment to make. He also tried to be the PR face of Disney and did a show like WD did--where he hosted it--total fail. And they had a new Mickey Mouse club (Britney Spears was in it).
Simple fact is--Walt Disney was the company. Without him or someone like him (Pixar's John Lasseter came close I guess), there was no company. Replacing him with lawyers and hedge fund managers completely destroyed the public perception of it as a family-friendly American company. Eisner also said Disney's goal (in the 90s) was to become entertainer for the globe.
No one knew that Disney co. had hired a convicted pedophile to direct a movie but their lawyers were so predatory--forcing a pre-school to erase images of Disney characters (which were replaced by Hanna-Barbera ones--the company had an artist go there to replace them) just made the company demonic in public perception.
Walt Disney did not have an easy time getting money. He was generally shut out of the Hollywood studio system--his first character Mortimer Mouse was ripped off--and it was simply due to his merit and connection with American audiences that he succeeded. First in family films and then television.
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Post by novastar6 on Feb 10, 2023 0:36:17 GMT
They still had better movies then than the crap they're putting out now.
Dude, don’t be silly. Their animation division almost went under when ‘The Black Cauldron’ floundered, not to mention that their animation quality went really downhill during this time. ‘Robin Hood’, in particular, was notorious for reusing animation from their previous films so many times.
I wasn't talking about their animation movies, though it's my understanding Pete's Dragon was supposed to be particularly good and I found it enjoyable and mixing animation/live action is a hard feat, Roger Rabbit is what perfected combining the two worlds but Pete's Dragon wasn't a bad example either. Some of their live action movies were cute but others were hilarious, That Darn Cat, the Medfield College ones, Midnight Madness in the early 80s, and I personally would like to see more animal movies done like Gus, the field goal kicking mule who DOESN'T SPEAK. Homeward Bound did it right with the animals 'thinking' not talking like Garfield that the audience could hear but not the humans in the film, but Gus was fantastic, a star football playing mule, that doesn't do a damned thing but KICK.
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