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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2023 2:46:40 GMT
Funny seeing a lowbrow troll throw around a word like sophisticated. But it does make perfect sense you would equate such mediocre films with that word. You’re a Star Wars fan, right? Never seen it.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Feb 11, 2023 5:22:46 GMT
They are. Even if they were garbage they would be too sophisticated for you. But they’re not. It's ironic that someone who constantly complains about Marvel movies being too silly would tout Prometheus as a 'sophisticated' film. It's freshman philosophy wrapped in horror tropes with all the shine of admittedly great Ridley Scott cinematography. There are intriguing ideas with loads of potential, but the whole concept is presented in such lazy fashion. The characters behave in counterintuitive ways, make nonsensical observations, and have clunky exposition laden conversations that in more capable writing hands, would've been minimalized so the audience had a chance to chew and digest these concepts on their own. Instead, the audience is force fed-- either because the writers didn't know how else to do it, or because they assumed the audience was too stupid to comprehend. Say what you want about Marvel movies (and you have, and you will, ad nauseam), at least they perform to expectation more often than not. There's plenty of legitimate characterization and moments of emotional resonance-- though your mileage may vary when it comes to your personal connection or response to these concepts as presented. But yes, ultimately, the MCU has a more lighthearted, family friendly tone. The travesty of Prometheus is that it thinks it's deeply intellectual when in reality, it's fodder for edgy 17 year olds.
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Post by paulslaugh on Feb 11, 2023 5:50:24 GMT
Well they’re great IMO. How could you forget? Do you actually concentrate when you watch something? All the Alien movies tend to run together. I only one I really liked was the first one, it's a brilliant movie. The second one was okay. I've seen one of the newer ones, but I don't remember which. And yes, I know how to concentrate on movies, TV, books, radio, etc. How about you?
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Post by Power Ranger on Feb 11, 2023 9:09:19 GMT
They are. Even if they were garbage they would be too sophisticated for you. But they’re not. It's ironic that someone who constantly complains about Marvel movies being too silly would tout Prometheus as a 'sophisticated' film. It's freshman philosophy wrapped in horror tropes with all the shine of admittedly great Ridley Scott cinematography. There are intriguing ideas with loads of potential, but the whole concept is presented in such lazy fashion. The characters behave in counterintuitive ways, make nonsensical observations, and have clunky exposition laden conversations that in more capable writing hands, would've been minimalized so the audience had a chance to chew and digest these concepts on their own. Instead, the audience is force fed-- either because the writers didn't know how else to do it, or because they assumed the audience was too stupid to comprehend. Say what you want about Marvel movies (and you have, and you will, ad nauseam), at least they perform to expectation more often than not. There's plenty of legitimate characterization and moments of emotional resonance-- though your mileage may vary when it comes to your personal connection or response to these concepts as presented. But yes, ultimately, the MCU has a more lighthearted, family friendly tone. The travesty of Prometheus is that it thinks it's deeply intellectual when in reality, it's fodder for edgy 17 year olds. I find it entirely consistent that someone who defends the MCU (you’ve done it frequently) is critical of Prometheus and Covenant.
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Post by Lux on Feb 11, 2023 13:21:02 GMT
They are. Even if they were garbage they would be too sophisticated for you. But they’re not. It's ironic that someone who constantly complains about Marvel movies being too silly would tout Prometheus as a 'sophisticated' film. It's freshman philosophy wrapped in horror tropes with all the shine of admittedly great Ridley Scott cinematography. There are intriguing ideas with loads of potential, but the whole concept is presented in such lazy fashion. The characters behave in counterintuitive ways, make nonsensical observations, and have clunky exposition laden conversations that in more capable writing hands, would've been minimalized so the audience had a chance to chew and digest these concepts on their own. Instead, the audience is force fed-- either because the writers didn't know how else to do it, or because they assumed the audience was too stupid to comprehend. Say what you want about Marvel movies (and you have, and you will, ad nauseam), at least they perform to expectation more often than not. There's plenty of legitimate characterization and moments of emotional resonance-- though your mileage may vary when it comes to your personal connection or response to these concepts as presented. But yes, ultimately, the MCU has a more lighthearted, family friendly tone. The travesty of Prometheus is that it thinks it's deeply intellectual when in reality, it's fodder for edgy 17 year olds. Prometheus also featured a dumbfuck stroking an alien snake like a puppy that alone ruined that movie.
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Post by Power Ranger on Feb 11, 2023 13:32:12 GMT
It's ironic that someone who constantly complains about Marvel movies being too silly would tout Prometheus as a 'sophisticated' film. It's freshman philosophy wrapped in horror tropes with all the shine of admittedly great Ridley Scott cinematography. There are intriguing ideas with loads of potential, but the whole concept is presented in such lazy fashion. The characters behave in counterintuitive ways, make nonsensical observations, and have clunky exposition laden conversations that in more capable writing hands, would've been minimalized so the audience had a chance to chew and digest these concepts on their own. Instead, the audience is force fed-- either because the writers didn't know how else to do it, or because they assumed the audience was too stupid to comprehend. Say what you want about Marvel movies (and you have, and you will, ad nauseam), at least they perform to expectation more often than not. There's plenty of legitimate characterization and moments of emotional resonance-- though your mileage may vary when it comes to your personal connection or response to these concepts as presented. But yes, ultimately, the MCU has a more lighthearted, family friendly tone. The travesty of Prometheus is that it thinks it's deeply intellectual when in reality, it's fodder for edgy 17 year olds. Prometheus also featured a dumbfuck stroking an alien snake like a puppy that alone ruined that movie. He was with an outwardly volatile individual (albeit really a coward) and may have wanted to display bravery. Also he was a biologist who had discovered a new species. Plus he was intoxicated.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Feb 11, 2023 14:11:07 GMT
It's ironic that someone who constantly complains about Marvel movies being too silly would tout Prometheus as a 'sophisticated' film. It's freshman philosophy wrapped in horror tropes with all the shine of admittedly great Ridley Scott cinematography. There are intriguing ideas with loads of potential, but the whole concept is presented in such lazy fashion. The characters behave in counterintuitive ways, make nonsensical observations, and have clunky exposition laden conversations that in more capable writing hands, would've been minimalized so the audience had a chance to chew and digest these concepts on their own. Instead, the audience is force fed-- either because the writers didn't know how else to do it, or because they assumed the audience was too stupid to comprehend. Say what you want about Marvel movies (and you have, and you will, ad nauseam), at least they perform to expectation more often than not. There's plenty of legitimate characterization and moments of emotional resonance-- though your mileage may vary when it comes to your personal connection or response to these concepts as presented. But yes, ultimately, the MCU has a more lighthearted, family friendly tone. The travesty of Prometheus is that it thinks it's deeply intellectual when in reality, it's fodder for edgy 17 year olds. I find it entirely consistent that someone who defends the MCU (you’ve done it frequently) is critical of Prometheus and Covenant. Good, at least you recognize a functioning adult. That's progress, keep working at it. Maybe someday you'll find a better outlet for the disappointment that is your life instead of bitching about Disney 24/7.
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Post by ShadowSouL: Padawan of Yoda on Feb 17, 2023 2:18:21 GMT
Everyone's only now realizing that all these alternate platforms are for shows that would have not made it on the broadcast or basic cable networks back in the day or even now.
Even the high concept shows, like all the new Star Wars and Star Treks.
Or maybe those would have done as well as the Star Trek shows into the 2000s and all those hit genre shows in the heyday of syndication in the 1990s.
The DC shows did pretty well on The CW for the last decade.
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Post by Lux on Feb 21, 2023 21:02:42 GMT
I find it entirely consistent that someone who defends the MCU (you’ve done it frequently) is critical of Prometheus and Covenant. Good, at least you recognize a functioning adult. That's progress, keep working at it. Maybe someday you'll find a better outlet for the disappointment that is your life instead of bitching about Disney 24/7. Functioning adults don't stroke alien snakes either.
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