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Post by thorshairspray on Mar 4, 2023 1:38:29 GMT
Erm, no. Not at all. Phase Four has been shit. Nah, the "fans" were loving Phase 4 until Love and Thunder came out. Then they pulled a 180 and started saying "Oh, I didn't mean it when I said I liked anything before. Now I hate everything in Phase 4 except Spider-Man because that movie was gutless fanservice that brought the older Spideys back instead of actually being about MCU Spidey". Not really. Eternals and Shan Chi took almost nothing, Ant Man 3 is going to flop and BP2 and Thor 4 might just break even.
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Post by formersamhmd on Mar 4, 2023 5:01:17 GMT
Nah, the "fans" were loving Phase 4 until Love and Thunder came out. Then they pulled a 180 and started saying "Oh, I didn't mean it when I said I liked anything before. Now I hate everything in Phase 4 except Spider-Man because that movie was gutless fanservice that brought the older Spideys back instead of actually being about MCU Spidey". Not really. Eternals and Shan Chi took almost nothing, Ant Man 3 is going to flop and BP2 and Thor 4 might just break even. Eternals made up for itself on D+, Shang Chi broke records, Ant-Man 3 hasn't finished its run and those two movies made a healthy profit with all they had going against them.
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Post by thorshairspray on Mar 4, 2023 7:22:57 GMT
Eternals didn't. Thats not how streaming works.
What records did shang Chi break? Other than taking slightly more money than the Eternals?
Ant Man 3 is over two weeks into its run and had a 70% drop in its second week in the US.
And no, Thor 4 and BP2 didn't make healthy profits. Thor likely lost money and BP2 was a marginal success.
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Post by formersamhmd on Mar 4, 2023 15:50:59 GMT
Eternals didn't. Thats not how streaming works. What records did shang Chi break? Other than taking slightly more money than the Eternals? Ant Man 3 is over two weeks into its run and had a 70% drop in its second week in the US. And no, Thor 4 and BP2 didn't make healthy profits. Thor likely lost money and BP2 was a marginal success. It did, in fact when most who didn't see it in theaters streamed it the response was "Huh, that wasn't bad. Wonder why so many slagged it off?" and admitted the movie had a lot of good stuff worth exploring.
Labor Day Weekend records.
Not done yet.
Neither lost money, and did well considering all the negative press they were both getting before hand.
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Post by scabab on Mar 5, 2023 1:58:00 GMT
Ant-Man is actually not doing good at all, it had a great opening but since then it's fallen off the cliff even worse than Batman Vs Superman did and that had a lot more room to drop. From what I'm hearing on the box office forum except for Eternals it's going to be one the least ticket selling MCU movie so far and Eternals did come out when Covid still played a part.
They're saying it might not even make $500 million worldwide which would make it the least successful of the three and it had a huge budget as well.
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Post by thisguy4000 on Mar 5, 2023 2:14:58 GMT
BP2 did fine. Thor 4 had meh legs, but it did still manage to be the highest grossing Thor film domestically, and it also wasn’t released in China. Shang-Chi also did fine, considering it was released at a point when the pandemic was still affecting the industry, and it was well received, so there’s room for growth with a sequel. As for Ant-Man 3, yeah, that one’s looking pretty rough. It’s having holds that are comparable to BvS, which is not good at all.
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Post by scabab on Mar 5, 2023 2:15:28 GMT
Nah, the "fans" were loving Phase 4 until Love and Thunder came out. Loving what? Black Widow was liked at a push. Shang Chi was liked but it wasn't exactly loved it was no Guardians of the Guardians. Eternals wasn't liked. Doctor Strange didn't seem to be any more well liked than Black Widow. Spider-Man was the only one that was loved. They had it better with the TV shows, WandaVision, Loki and Hawkeye were popular enough but then people had problems with Falcon and Winter Soldier and What If. Moon Knight certainly wasn't loved and Ms Marvel which came out prior to Thor was the least liked of them all. It's been a very mixed bag since Endgame.
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Post by darkpast on Mar 5, 2023 3:10:03 GMT
not enough Brie Larson is the issue
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Mar 5, 2023 23:54:01 GMT
That a movie with a wild title like Cocaine Bear and a faith-based "feel good" picture like Jesus Revolution is mopping the floors with the latest Marvel Studios release really says something, Creed III not being a huge surprise though.
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Post by Power Ranger on Mar 6, 2023 3:06:36 GMT
The MCU was hyped up by careful media trumpeting. When Disney came into it, they bombarded the airwaves with sensational ballyhoo and inflammatory gimmickry. That couldn't last forever. And they amped up the diversity and wokeness which only made their target audience more confusing. Who is it aimed at? Not the hetero white male--they already admitted that is not their target audience. And Gunn certainly does not represent families. Who is their audience? Urban die-hard democrat voters? Is that enough for box office success? It used to be standard adage that you need to cater to an audience and not try to spread yourself too thin. Well, they have not just spread themselves too thin they are cutting away the traditional audience so that's a major risk. Any company that was dependent on profits would be committing suicide with such a strategy. But it was said years ago that big corporations have so much money that movie studios are a tiny part of their budget. It's like printing a leaflet. The thing is that Disney doesn’t feel that it has to appeal to the hetero white male. He wouldn’t miss a Star Wars or Marvel product no matter how garbage it is. They are already fans. They’re locked in. Disney is trying to pander to minorities and women to expand their audience.
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Post by Prime etc. on Mar 6, 2023 4:24:42 GMT
The thing is that Disney doesn’t feel that it has to appeal to the hetero white male. He wouldn’t miss a Star Wars or Marvel product no matter how garbage it is. They are already fans. They’re locked in. Disney is trying to pander to minorities and women to expand their audience. I am not sure that holds up because
the white male comic book demographic isn't that big. In fact, it must be pretty small compared to the former demographic of kids reading them when comic book circulation was in the millions.
And they expect action and stuff--not nerdy women making jokes about male failure or discussions about treaties or some guy in a library gushing about Steve Rogers' body. How many truck drivers are big fans of comic book movies? Probably not that many. The casual male moviegoer is not the same as the comic book fan.
And how do families feel about Disney's groomer support?
That's another poison pill for a company and yet don't seem to care.
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