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Post by Martin Brundle - Martinfly on Feb 28, 2023 13:25:30 GMT
It's neither the Wolverine from the main X-Men movie continuity, nor the Wolverine from the "Logan 2017" universe. That's pretty obvious, they are walking the same Dr. Strange 2 path.
Mind you, Hugh Jackman has aged. He's not young anymore, and it shows. Since (cinematic) Wolverine is supposed to be always in his 38-40 years old range, I think that they will make Hugh don the iconic mask and the costume, this time.
So far, we got four cinematic Wolverines:
1- The main X-Men movie continuity (the seven X-Men movies + X-Men Origins + The Wolverine). 2- The Logan 2017 alternate universe. 3- The Deadpool movies universe. See the upcoming Deadpool 3. 4- The alternate universe that Deadpool visited at the end of Deadpool 2, modeled after X-Men Origins.
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Post by Power Ranger on Feb 28, 2023 17:06:38 GMT
I would prefer a recasting.
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Post by politicidal on Feb 28, 2023 21:20:09 GMT
“…Mind you, Hugh Jackman has aged. He's not young anymore, and it shows. Since (cinematic) Wolverine is supposed to be always in his 38-40 years old range, I think that they will make Hugh don the iconic mask and the costume, this time.”
Oh they’ll just use CGI for de-aging him.
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Post by kuatorises on Mar 1, 2023 18:46:40 GMT
Logan isn't an alternate timeline.
This could still be Prime Logan since it's not 2029 and he hasn't died. yet.
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Post by Lux on Mar 1, 2023 20:42:01 GMT
I would prefer a recasting. Why?
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Post by Lux on Mar 1, 2023 20:45:58 GMT
“…Mind you, Hugh Jackman has aged. He's not young anymore, and it shows. Since (cinematic) Wolverine is supposed to be always in his 38-40 years old range, I think that they will make Hugh don the iconic mask and the costume, this time.” Oh they’ll just use CGI for de-aging him. Wasn't Wolverine always grizzled and rough looking in the comics? Yes Hugh Jackman is visibly getting a few wrinkles but the Wolverine of the comics was hardly getting weekly facials at the day spa either.
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Post by Power Ranger on Mar 1, 2023 20:58:10 GMT
I would prefer a recasting. Why? I never really cared for Hugh Jackman as Wolverine. Plus I never really cared for how his character was the main character. I felt it should have remained an ensemble. So Hugh has baggage IMO. And then there are the stand alone films which are horrendous (the last one was too little, too late AFAIAC). And Hugh was largely to blame for this. He was the one who ruled out the first Wolverine film being R-rated and he otherwise had creative input. Wolverine should be a little shorter as well.
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Post by Lux on Mar 1, 2023 21:22:16 GMT
I never really cared for Hugh Jackman as Wolverine. Plus I never really cared for how his character was the main character. I felt it should have remained an ensemble. So Hugh has baggage IMO. And then there are the stand alone films which are horrendous (the last one was too little, too late AFAIAC). And Hugh was largely to blame for this. He was the one who ruled out the first Wolverine film being R-rated and he otherwise had creative input. Wolverine should be a little shorter as well. His character was the main character in spin offs which is why they were called spinoffs also Wolverine being shorter is the stupidest part of the character you want him slashing heads not underwear. The only good Wolverine movie was the second with the Samurai villain apart from that the rest are shit.
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Post by Prime etc. on Mar 1, 2023 21:30:14 GMT
Jackman was the romantic leading man type and he ended up the focus because of that. If they picked someone closer to the comic book version, he would not have been the focus. So he is coming back? So much for never again. That makes the final Logan movie not so final. I think the mask is a big mistake for him. He doesn't have the voice to make it good. The mask needs a Charles McGraw kind of voice.
Better to just cgi de-age him.
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Post by Power Ranger on Mar 1, 2023 21:36:59 GMT
I never really cared for Hugh Jackman as Wolverine. Plus I never really cared for how his character was the main character. I felt it should have remained an ensemble. So Hugh has baggage IMO. And then there are the stand alone films which are horrendous (the last one was too little, too late AFAIAC). And Hugh was largely to blame for this. He was the one who ruled out the first Wolverine film being R-rated and he otherwise had creative input. Wolverine should be a little shorter as well. His character was the main character in spin offs which is why they were called spinoffs also Wolverine being shorter is the stupidest part of the character you want him slashing heads not underwear. The only good Wolverine movie was the second with the Samurai villain apart from that the rest are shit. He was also the main character in the X-Men team films he was in and I didn’t like that. He may be the most popular character but that doesn’t necessarily mean that he should be front and centre and given the most screen time. And yeah, he’s a short guy in the comics. I think they wanted a traditional leading man in the films.
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Post by Lux on Mar 1, 2023 21:44:34 GMT
His character was the main character in spin offs which is why they were called spinoffs also Wolverine being shorter is the stupidest part of the character you want him slashing heads not underwear. The only good Wolverine movie was the second with the Samurai villain apart from that the rest are shit. He was also the main character in the X-Men team films he was in and I didn’t like that. He may be the most popular character but that doesn’t necessarily mean that he should be front and centre and given the most screen time. And yeah, he’s a short guy in the comics. I think they wanted a traditional leading man in the films. Which other X-Men characters would you have focused on? They focused on Jean Grey's suppressed powers, Rogue's sexual angst and Magneto's schemes against humanity for most of those movies.
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Post by Martin Brundle - Martinfly on Mar 2, 2023 18:20:53 GMT
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Post by formersamhmd on Mar 2, 2023 18:27:25 GMT
He was also the main character in the X-Men team films he was in and I didn’t like that. He may be the most popular character but that doesn’t necessarily mean that he should be front and centre and given the most screen time. And yeah, he’s a short guy in the comics. I think they wanted a traditional leading man in the films. Which other X-Men characters would you have focused on? They focused on Jean Grey's suppressed powers, Rogue's sexual angst and Magneto's schemes against humanity for most of those movies. Make it a proper ensemble film, like Guardians of the Galaxy has been. Those characters all got equal levels of focus.
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Post by kuatorises on Mar 2, 2023 18:32:07 GMT
I bring quotes, you bring a list. That you made btw.
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Post by Martin Brundle - Martinfly on Mar 2, 2023 18:42:26 GMT
I bring quotes, you bring a list. That you made btw.
List based on the movies = what you see on-screen = canon.
Mangold's opinion doesn't matter anymore, if you see something else on-screen.
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Post by kuatorises on Mar 2, 2023 19:04:02 GMT
I bring quotes, you bring a list. That you made btw.
List based on the movies = what you see on-screen = canon.
Mangold's opinion doesn't matter anymore, if you see something else on-screen.
I mean, that's simply not true.
Which parts are canon? Some negate others. Maybe it's just....sloppy writing or retconns?
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Post by Martin Brundle - Martinfly on Mar 2, 2023 19:16:50 GMT
List based on the movies = what you see on-screen = canon.
Mangold's opinion doesn't matter anymore, if you see something else on-screen.
I mean, that's simply not true.
Which parts are canon? Some negate others. Maybe it's just....sloppy writing or retconns?
No retcons.
MARVEL even confimed that Logan 2017 is a standalone Earth.
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Post by kuatorises on Mar 2, 2023 19:36:41 GMT
I mean, that's simply not true.
Which parts are canon? Some negate others. Maybe it's just....sloppy writing or retconns?
No retcons.
MARVEL even confimed that Logan 2017 is a standalone Earth.
You keep saying that.
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Post by Martin Brundle - Martinfly on Mar 2, 2023 20:31:39 GMT
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Post by kuatorises on Mar 2, 2023 23:55:02 GMT
That's a wiki site, my man. I quoted the director.
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