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Post by Nora on Mar 24, 2023 23:37:11 GMT
noooo.. noooo… i cant take John Wick dying!!! No.. where do I sign a petition against it? Loved the movie… till the end. Wtf?!? Anyway. this is what i call an effing entertainment!! Givem alll the oscars. incredible directing, script, effects, stunts, sound, costumes, editing, cinematography and WOW the PRODUCTION DESIGN, just wow! 9/10
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Post by Mulder and Scully on Mar 25, 2023 0:05:11 GMT
One of the greatest action movies ever made, IMO. This movie is pure bonkers. Reeves and Yen were amazing. Also, Marko Zaror and Scott Adkins should do more films like JW 4. Both are such underrated action stars. My guess is Wick fakes his death to live a life of peace. It seems out of character for him to die lol. But there are a couple of hints which indicate he was going to die like in that scene where he says having "Loving Husband" on his tombstone. So maybe, maybe not. This is going to be a big hit. They'll definitely continue this franchise.
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Post by politicidal on Mar 25, 2023 0:52:46 GMT
Apparently this is why part 5 was scrapped, according to the director:
"...God, to be honest with you, I don't know. Not to cause any weird clickbait or anything like that, the studio first came to us and went, "Look, we would like to explore the option of doing 4 and 5 together." And the daunting-ness of that at first is a little intimidating, [but] it's also incredibly flattering. In an industry where everyone's trying to get something made, and you're trying to get your wacky ideas made and somebody to listen and give them a shot, to have people come to you and go, "Please make more of what you do?" I can't thank Lionsgate enough for even presenting that opportunity.
I've been a part of projects that have done two films together at once and, [at least] for me, I don't know how to do it. Creatively, I don't know how to get my head around that. I think the greatest part is that, after each John Wick, I took two years off to go live and get better; to travel, to read more, and to get better. I don't know how to do a movie back-to-back and get better for the second one. You'd see John Wick 4 and then John Wick 4B, right? Same camera, same colors, same action, same style of choreography, same storylines. I had no time to be influenced by life and bring life back in, so I just thought it was kind of a cheat."
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Post by Nora on Mar 25, 2023 1:11:05 GMT
One of the greatest action movies ever made, IMO. This movie is pure bonkers. Reeves and Yen were amazing. Also, Marko Zaror and Scott Adkins should do more films like JW 4. Both are such underrated action stars. My guess is Wick fakes his death to live a life of peace. It seems out of character for him to die lol. But there are a couple of hints which indicate he was going to die like in that scene where he says having "Beloved Husband" on his tombstone. So maybe, maybe not. This is going to be a big hit. They'll definitely continue this franchise. how great was their chemistry, Wick and Caine, right? I also loved the tracker. Great character.
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Post by Nora on Mar 25, 2023 2:17:48 GMT
Apparently this is why part 5 was scrapped, according to the director:
"...God, to be honest with you, I don't know. Not to cause any weird clickbait or anything like that, the studio first came to us and went, "Look, we would like to explore the option of doing 4 and 5 together." And the daunting-ness of that at first is a little intimidating, [but] it's also incredibly flattering. In an industry where everyone's trying to get something made, and you're trying to get your wacky ideas made and somebody to listen and give them a shot, to have people come to you and go, "Please make more of what you do?" I can't thank Lionsgate enough for even presenting that opportunity.
I've been a part of projects that have done two films together at once and, [at least] for me, I don't know how to do it. Creatively, I don't know how to get my head around that. I think the greatest part is that, after each John Wick, I took two years off to go live and get better; to travel, to read more, and to get better. I don't know how to do a movie back-to-back and get better for the second one. You'd see John Wick 4 and then John Wick 4B, right? Same camera, same colors, same action, same style of choreography, same storylines. I had no time to be influenced by life and bring life back in, so I just thought it was kind of a cheat."
i love his approach and explanation tbh.
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Post by Mulder and Scully on Mar 25, 2023 20:15:31 GMT
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Post by Nora on Mar 25, 2023 22:21:07 GMT
I hope you are right. I am certainly going to see JW4 at least once more at the cinemas.
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Post by merh on Mar 25, 2023 22:51:04 GMT
I see it tomorrow. I read it goes from John wounded, & then a grave shot so we don't actually see him die, right?
So like Nick Fury?
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Post by Mulder and Scully on Mar 26, 2023 19:06:42 GMT
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Post by jean74 on Mar 26, 2023 22:36:08 GMT
Sad part is that Lance Reddick will no longer be involved. RIP!
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Post by politicidal on Mar 26, 2023 23:02:38 GMT
I bet they'll bring Reeves back once they hit the right figure for his salary.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Mar 26, 2023 23:59:08 GMT
There's no way he's dead. Everything points to him being alive. The whole franchise was him trying to get back to the point where he could be left alone. King asks Winston if John is in heaven or hell, Winston replies, "Who can know," or something like that, and King laughs. John is alive.
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Post by sdrew13163 on Mar 27, 2023 0:08:53 GMT
I’d be really disappointed if he came back. Leave him dead.
He gets to be “free” and, unlike his moment in the church where he doubts life after death, he seems to genuinely be seeing his wife approach him as he dies on the steps.
Not to mention he sacrificed himself for Caine to live freely with his daughter too, which was a rare moment of genuine heroism for him.
Leave him dead. Let the franchise grow with other characters.
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Post by merh on Mar 27, 2023 0:41:22 GMT
I’d be really disappointed if he came back. Leave him dead. He gets to be “free” and, unlike his moment in the church where he doubts life after death, he seems to genuinely be seeing his wife approach him as he dies on the steps. Not to mention he sacrificed himself for Caine to live freely with his daughter too, which was a rare moment of genuine heroism for him. Leave him dead. Let the franchise grow with other characters. But Caine didn't survive. Or did you walk out during the credits & miss that?
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Post by merh on Mar 27, 2023 0:45:52 GMT
There's no way he's dead. Everything points to him being alive. The whole franchise was him trying to get back to the point where he could be left alone. King asks Winston if John is in heaven or hell, Winston replies, "Who can know," or something like that, and King laughs. John is alive. Just saw it today. John said he would kill them all. Winston told him his only way out was dead I feel the King suspected. I feel Winston's non-answer was to protect John. I feel if they make a 5 it will be John killing everyone at the table.
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Mar 27, 2023 1:19:57 GMT
Honestly I hope a part 5 doesn't happen. This was as good as an ending you could get for the character.
I'm fine with the Spinoffs but a part 5 shouldn't happen.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Mar 27, 2023 2:02:37 GMT
Honestly I hope a part 5 doesn't happen. This was as good as an ending you could get for the character. I'm fine with the Spinoffs but a part 5 shouldn't happen. I'd be fine either way. To me, all signs point to him surviving, but it was a good death for the character if that's how they choose to end it.
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Post by sdrew13163 on Mar 27, 2023 2:48:26 GMT
I’d be really disappointed if he came back. Leave him dead. He gets to be “free” and, unlike his moment in the church where he doubts life after death, he seems to genuinely be seeing his wife approach him as he dies on the steps. Not to mention he sacrificed himself for Caine to live freely with his daughter too, which was a rare moment of genuine heroism for him. Leave him dead. Let the franchise grow with other characters. But Caine didn't survive. Or did you walk out during the credits & miss that? Ah, I didn't stay for a post-credit scene. Had no idea there was one. Though I looked it up and it sounds like he isn't confirmed dead. Either way, John still gave them both their freedom from The Table.
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Post by merh on Mar 27, 2023 2:51:41 GMT
But Caine didn't survive. Or did you walk out during the credits & miss that? Ah, I didn't stay for a post-credit scene. Had no idea there was one. Though I looked it up and it sounds like he isn't confirmed dead. Either way, John still gave them both their freedom from The Table. Akira said for John to kill Caine or she would. It didn't look like she simmered down any
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Post by sdrew13163 on Mar 27, 2023 2:57:37 GMT
Ah, I didn't stay for a post-credit scene. Had no idea there was one. Though I looked it up and it sounds like he isn't confirmed dead. Either way, John still gave them both their freedom from The Table. Akira said for John to kill Caine or she would. It didn't look like she simmered down any True, but, again, I'm just saying I liked what John did for Caine and his daughter. Separate from Akira.
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