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Post by monicah on Jun 4, 2023 14:49:02 GMT
Say like one parent is Christian and the other one isn’t . The Christian parent has to baptize their baby without the other parent knowing who is against it or doesn’t care for it enough to be part of it but would be mad if it happened without them knowing. What would be the “right” way of going about this ?
Also some might ask why these parents ended up together if they don’t religiously agree but let’s say they’re no longer together but still coparenting.
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Post by captainbryce on Jun 4, 2023 16:07:39 GMT
It’s wrong to baptize a baby…
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Post by monicah on Jun 4, 2023 18:17:01 GMT
It’s wrong to baptize a baby… I don’t see the harm in it |
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Post by OpiateOfTheMasses on Jun 4, 2023 21:30:19 GMT
How do you think a Christian would feel if their other half snuck their baby off and had a Namakarana ceremony (the Hindu version of a baptism) performed on it without their consent?
Do you think they'd be "oh well, it doesn't really matter, does it?"?
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Post by The Lost One on Jun 5, 2023 9:33:21 GMT
If the other parent is an atheist then I suppose to them baptism is just a nonsense that the baby won't even remember and they may as well let it happen. I don't think the Christian parent should do it in secret though - that's bound to blow up.
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Post by novastar6 on Jun 5, 2023 21:02:36 GMT
How do you think a Christian would feel if their other half snuck their baby off and had a Namakarana ceremony (the Hindu version of a baptism) performed on it without their consent? Do you think they'd be "oh well, it doesn't really matter, does it?"?
I guess that depends on what they do to the baby.
I've never seen any point in baptizing babies. They are too young to actually choose Jesus as their Savior, and I don't buy that this ceremony will hold them over until then.
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Post by OpiateOfTheMasses on Jun 5, 2023 21:45:25 GMT
How do you think a Christian would feel if their other half snuck their baby off and had a Namakarana ceremony (the Hindu version of a baptism) performed on it without their consent? Do you think they'd be "oh well, it doesn't really matter, does it?"?
I guess that depends on what they do to the baby.
I've never seen any point in baptizing babies. They are too young to actually choose Jesus as their Savior, and I don't buy that this ceremony will hold them over until then.
Most of religion and children is about indoctrinating them when they're too young to make a choice/decide what they want to do. Children (especially very young children) are hard wired to accept what their parents say without question. It's a survival process: "don't eat the those berries, they will kill you" "fire is hot and will hurt you" "that animal is dangerous and could kill you" "you have to worship god" If religion waited until children were older before it tried to introduce god to them then it wouldn't get very far, would it? |
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Post by novastar6 on Jun 5, 2023 22:31:03 GMT
I guess that depends on what they do to the baby.
I've never seen any point in baptizing babies. They are too young to actually choose Jesus as their Savior, and I don't buy that this ceremony will hold them over until then.
Most of religion and children is about indoctrinating them when they're too young to make a choice/decide what they want to do. Children (especially very young children) are hard wired to accept what their parents say without question. It's a survival process: "don't eat the those berries, they will kill you" "fire is hot and will hurt you" "that animal is dangerous and could kill you" "you have to worship god" If religion waited until children were older before it tried to introduce god to them then it wouldn't get very far, would it?
Like schools saying 'we have to teach 5 year olds how to have sex so they can do it right instead of waiting until they're a reasonable age'?
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Post by jackbrock on Jun 5, 2023 23:32:15 GMT
There was an All in the Family episode about this. Archie had his granddaughter baptized behind Mike and Gloria.
I'm sure this subject came up with many people; how to raise the kids. It's probably a big factor in many divorces.
It generally doesn't harm the kid, but it's still wrong to do.
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Post by darkreviewer2013 on Jun 7, 2023 7:52:29 GMT
This is an issue that both parents need to be in agreement on. No matter how well meaning, it is wrong for one parent to carry out such an act without the other one's consent.
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Post by monicah on Jun 7, 2023 8:28:38 GMT
This is an issue that both parents need to be in agreement on. No matter how well meaning, it is wrong for one parent to carry out such an act without the other one's consent. What if you asked and they said no? |
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Post by darkreviewer2013 on Jun 8, 2023 5:23:34 GMT
This is an issue that both parents need to be in agreement on. No matter how well meaning, it is wrong for one parent to carry out such an act without the other one's consent. What if you asked and they said no? Then a discussion is in order. It's definitely not something that one parent should do unilaterally. Though this is one of the many issues that couples in steady long-term relationships who have or are planning to have kids should iron out early on. |
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Post by sailor on Jun 8, 2023 15:27:06 GMT
It is a harmless splash of water for an infant... If the parents are there it is kind of a nice ceremony to remind the parents to raise the kids in a way that models the love of Christ in their life. If they are not- then it is just water... We are to repent and be baptized. To repent means we need to be old enough (which varies from person to person) to realize that we are not perfect (sinners) and that Christ is or savior eternally.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2023 19:06:37 GMT
Yes
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Post by Feologild Oakes on Jun 8, 2023 20:18:26 GMT
Yes
Anybody who disagree with that, are factually wrong
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Post by monicah on Jun 8, 2023 21:31:56 GMT
Yes Anybody who disagree with that, are factually wrong But if you actually believe baptism saved your kid it would make sense to do this |
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Post by captainbryce on Jun 11, 2023 20:10:51 GMT
It’s wrong to baptize a baby… I don’t see the harm in it Cool. We agree to disagree then! |
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Post by The Lost One on Jun 12, 2023 8:38:12 GMT
Yes Anybody who disagree with that, are factually wrong But if you actually believe baptism saved your kid it would make sense to do this I think if one parent genuinely believes that, then the other should relent and allow the baby to be baptised. It won't harm the child, but will put one parent's fears at rest so isn't that the best compromise? |
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