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Post by mortsahlfan on Jun 6, 2023 18:04:31 GMT
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Post by telegonus on Jun 7, 2023 6:03:58 GMT
This censoring of older films, especially, has got to stop. Gene Hackman was playing a character in The French Connection. He was giving a performance, and a damn good one, of a man was an excellent law enforcement officer and, especially by today's standards, a deeply flawed human being. This is REAL Life. The film is showing us how it is; and it's often not pretty. Since for the most part movies like this one don't get shown to children there shouldn't be a problem with the lead character's (Popeye Doyle) being insensitive (putting it mildly) to ethnic and racial groups unlike his own. If they want to show an introduction explaining this at the opening of the film, and make this sort of thing mandatory for all films that offend in this way, that's fine by me. But the censorship is ridiculous and insulting to the viewer, more insulting than the insults in the film, which is depicting real life realistically, and also telling a story drawn from real life. We should stop this treating grownup TV viewers as children. |
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Post by mortsahlfan on Jun 8, 2023 12:50:54 GMT
They'll stop censorship when there's nothing good left.
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Post by Prime etc. on Jun 8, 2023 15:38:11 GMT
The irony is--that dialogue was most probably intended as progressive. Likewise in Escape From Alcatraz when Clint Eastwood says it.
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Post by telegonus on Jun 9, 2023 6:04:47 GMT
I remember watching Intruder In The Dust once in which the local station beeped out all N words and any other words that were derogatory to black people, which removed so much of the power of he film, as I saw it first when those words were in the picture, which made the story more effective, especially the "reaction shots" of Juano Hernandez, in which he looks far less noble responding to people shouting words out to him that the viewer cannot hear!
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Post by vegalyra on Jun 26, 2023 1:23:55 GMT
Looks like the print sent to Criterion was edited down by Disney as they own the film rights. Not Criterions fault. I freaking hate Disney.
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Post by Rufus-T on Jun 26, 2023 18:01:05 GMT
Looks like the print sent to Criterion was edited down by Disney as they own the film rights. Not Criterions fault. I freaking hate Disney. Interesting that Disney got involved.
Back in the 90s, even into 00s, everything Disney touched turned solid gold. Nowadays, everything they touched turned mushy and brown.
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Post by vegalyra on Jun 27, 2023 2:42:20 GMT
Looks like the print sent to Criterion was edited down by Disney as they own the film rights. Not Criterions fault. I freaking hate Disney. Interesting that Disney got involved.
Back in the 90s, even into 00s, everything Disney touched turned solid gold. Nowadays, everything they touched turned mushy and brown.
I agree. I was a big Disney fan back in those days, and I still love their "vault". But the decisions they make about their film properties that they have acquired over the years is horrible. I would consider myself a Fess Parker, Dean Jones, Disney era guy, but definitely not their newer material and definitely not a fan of whomever makes decisions about their historic library. |
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Post by Prime etc. on Jun 28, 2023 0:54:19 GMT
I remember a documentary on Disney around 1988 and Michael Eisner was interviewed. You could tell he hated doing new animation -Oliver and Company--he said well it is the company's legacy so we have to do it but it isn't cost effective.
But he got excited when he was talking about Disney's reputation- he said it was really lucky that the company was bought by those who want to do good and not evil because the influential power of the company name was "awesome." It was creepy how he said it.
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Post by taranofprydain on Jul 14, 2023 17:14:47 GMT
Looks like the print sent to Criterion was edited down by Disney as they own the film rights. Not Criterions fault. I freaking hate Disney. Yes, when Disney bought (and dismembered) 20th Century Fox a few years ago, they gained control of all of Fox's films, and I guess they started editing cuts for any slurs in the films. They also handed the same edited cut of French Connection to TCM. The only joy of Disney owning Fox's films is the delicious sense of irony that Disney, the so called bastion of family entertainment, now owns films like Myra Breckinridge and Beyond the Valley of the Dolls |
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