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Post by mstreepsucks on Aug 14, 2023 14:42:27 GMT
It's a wonderful life.
Casablanca.
Dr. Strangelove.
(I was gonna include the wizard of oz)
What do you think , do you agree?
I'm almost certain that everyone will agree will at least one of those. I could be wrong.
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Post by mattgarth on Aug 14, 2023 16:00:58 GMT
"I could be be wrong."
Yes, you are.
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Post by mstreepsucks on Aug 14, 2023 16:52:50 GMT
Ok so, what I meant was. Those are the most overrated.
I didn't mean, that those films are overrated but also good.
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Post by joekiddlouischama on Aug 17, 2023 3:44:49 GMT
Ok so, what I meant was. Those are the most overrated. I didn't mean, that those films are overrated but also good. Have you seen them in the theater? I have viewed It's a Wonderful Life nine times in the theater, Casablanca three times in the theater, and Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb four times in the theater. Seeing them on the big screen helps. I consider all three films genuinely great, and It's a Wonderful Life ranks among the most potent and timeless movies ever made, if you ask me. It is actually a much darker film than one might imagine. Dr. Strangelove, meanwhile, has to rank among the most brilliant satires in history. What I will concede is that Casablanca, like, say, Gone with the Wind, is one of those classics that is not far removed from mundaneness and mediocrity. Indeed, one could argue that there is banality at its core, but what makes the difference is the staging, the editing, the lines, and the acting by iconic performers. |
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Post by mstreepsucks on Aug 17, 2023 5:39:15 GMT
"I could be be wrong." Yes, you are. Man... Do you feel better! |
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Post by mattgarth on Aug 17, 2023 7:31:43 GMT
Definitely!
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Post by Feologild Oakes on Aug 23, 2023 8:00:06 GMT
I agree that It's a wonderful life is overrated.
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Post by Prime etc. on Aug 23, 2023 21:46:41 GMT
Casablanca is probably the most classic Hollywood film if you want to examine it as a textbook case of how the Hollywood media machine worked. So much of it is illusion and hype.
The cardboard plane at the end, Bogart being shorter than Bergman, the irrelevance of the letters of transit, the disappearance of Sam.
If you look at it only as a movie, then yeah you could probably find a million things to call overhyped but that's the whole point. It is meant to be an overblown dreamy war propaganda film. I think it is pretty successful at that because even today, many people still think it is a romance, when it is really about Rick re-discovering his love to fight after losing in Spain.
He feels Ilsa should stay with Victor not from love, but to help him fight the war. That's a very counterintuitive message and yet it's all bombastic and cheerful and he and Renault walk off into the fog together.
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Post by marianne48 on Aug 24, 2023 13:21:50 GMT
Casablanca is probably the most classic Hollywood film if you want to examine it as a textbook case of how the Hollywood media machine worked. So much of it is illusion and hype. The cardboard plane at the end, Bogart being shorter than Bergman, the irrelevance of the letters of transit, the disappearance of Sam. If you look at it only as a movie, then yeah you could probably find a million things to call overhyped but that's the whole point. It is meant to be an overblown dreamy war propaganda film. I think it is pretty successful at that because even today, many people still think it is a romance, when it is really about Rick re-discovering his love to fight after losing in Spain. He feels Ilsa should stay with Victor not from love, but to help him fight the war. That's a very counterintuitive message and yet it's all bombastic and cheerful and he and Renault walk off into the fog together. Love, shmove. If Ilsa stayed with Rick, then the film would have been a banal Hollywood schmaltzfest. How long would it have been before she realized she was stuck with an angry, unmotivated alcoholic instead of someone who knew how to look at the bigger picture? After the war, she could have left Victor, who would no doubt have his share of adoring female groupies, and sought out Louis Renault, who was probably better in the sack than both Victor and Rick. Older and wiser, she would enjoy his postwar cynicism, too. Sam, now working for Signor Ferrari, would have become a huge success in jazz-loving postwar Europe, especially after his album Blue Parrot Blues became an international hit, so he didn't need Rick anymore. I don't think the movie's overrated because it I believe it was intended to be a quickie piece of propaganda (which explains the clunky devices such as the supposedly inviolable "letters of transit") that became much bigger and better than that. Overrated: Raging Bull
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