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Post by msdemos on Aug 19, 2023 20:51:29 GMT
.....and happen to notice that they cut out a chunk of the song, "The Begat", starting at the 2:45 mark of this YouTube video, and deleting ALL of the following lyrics, starting just after the "..... strict vegetarians, begat" line: Honorary Aryans, begat.
Startin' from Genesis, they begat.
Heroes and menaces, begat.
Fat filibusterers, begat.
Income tax adjusterers, begat.
Twas naturaler and naturaler to begat.
And sometimes a bachelor, he begat! .....and picking up again with the line, " It didn't matter whichaways, they begat....." Uh.......movies " UNCUT and COMMERCIAL FREE" ??  www.songlyrics.com/finian-s-rainbow/the-begat-lyrics/ www.tcm.com/watchtcm/SAVE FERRIS |
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Post by divtal on Aug 19, 2023 23:43:35 GMT
I did not see it, today. In fact, I think I saw it, in first run, in the theater. Or, perhaps it was later, on TV.
However, if that number was cut, could have been in the interest of timing, for the rest of the day's schedule. However, I wonder of it might have been a matter of sociopolitical pressures. I hope not.
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Post by msdemos on Aug 20, 2023 15:21:43 GMT
I did not see it, today. In fact, I think I saw it, in first run, in the theater. Or, perhaps it was later, on TV. However, if that number was cut, could have been in the interest of timing, for the rest of the day's schedule. However, I wonder of it might have been a matter of sociopolitical pressures. I hope not.That too was my thought.......but it seems odd since MOST of those deleted lyrics wouldn't be offensive to ANYONE. I'm wondering if it's just possible there was a 'glitch' in the transmission of the film, since it kind of seems to suddenly 'skip', or jump over that part......but it would also do that if it was a purposeful edit, so who knows ?? For anyone that cares to see the film for themselves, and has access to the library of movies on TCM's own website (see above TCM link), the film has now been posted there, and should be available for viewing for at least the next couple of weeks.   SAVE FERRIS |
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Post by divtal on Aug 20, 2023 19:26:49 GMT
"That too was my thought.......but it seems odd since most of those deleted lyrics wouldn't be offensive to ANYONE."
I wouldn't think so, either. I sense that anything that involves current controversy is discouraged, here. So, I won't go any further.
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Post by joekiddlouischama on Aug 21, 2023 1:58:53 GMT
Have you heard about the situation with The French Connection?
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Post by msdemos on Aug 21, 2023 2:52:40 GMT
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Post by joekiddlouischama on Aug 25, 2023 5:58:26 GMT
Yeah, it is really ridiculous. Popeye Doyle is supposed to constitute a problematic character, and The French Connection is supposed to reflect both the vision of its filmmakers and the mores and manners of its time, in which there was a certain frankness and rawness about both race and language. For better or for worse, 1971 was not 2021, and neither history nor art should be whitewashed. Moreover, it is not as if The French Connection is, say, The Birth of a Nation (which should not be censored, either). It is not remotely a racist film, but one that merely reflects the existence of racism to a modest extent. Are we supposed to believe that the slur "n*gger" was never uttered by a white New York City cop in the early seventies? I viewed The French Connection twice in the theater just ten years ago, in September 2013, and the film was not censored then. As the article that you linked to suggests, this decision by Disney (apparently) does not seem to be inspired by some liberal ideologues (who was calling for this removal?) but rather by corporate defensiveness and cluelessness. Look, if one is concerned about children being exposed to the word, the film is Rated "R." If we are now at the stage where we cannot use the rating system and need corporations to protect adults from themselves, then society has reached a real low point. |
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