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Post by DC-Fan on Jul 15, 2017 5:46:07 GMT
MCU fans claim that BvS was bad, yet 3 of MCU's movies have blatantly copied plot elements from BvS: Civil War - This movie was supposed to be a stand-alone Captain America movie. But after DC announced BvS, MCU changed this to an Iron Man v Captain America movie. A government building gets blown up, killing a prominent government official. And a villain manipulates heroes into fighting each other. This movie is a blatant and obvious copy of BvS. Thor: Ragnarok - aka Thor v Hulk. MCU is even promoting this with the exact words that Lex Luthor spoke in BvS - "the greatest gladiator match in history": www.comicbookmovie.com/thor/thor_ragnarok/thor-ragnarok-poster-features-the-greatest-gladiator-match-in-the-history-of-the-nine-realms-thor-vs-hulk-a152454. Spider-Man: Homecoming - Let's see. The beginning of BvS shows a battle from a previous movie (Superman's battle against the Kryptonians in MoS) from Bruce Wayne's point of view. So what does MCU do at the beginning of SMH? They show a battle from a previous movie (the airport fight in Civil War) from Peter Parker's point of view.
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Post by skribb on Jul 15, 2017 6:09:20 GMT
The only "proof" with any substance is the first mention, the latter two are easily coincidental as they are rather cliché and cannot be assumed to be intentional.
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Post by DC-Fan on Jul 15, 2017 6:50:44 GMT
The only "proof" with any substance is the first mention, the latter two are easily coincidental as they are rather cliché and cannot be assumed to be intentional. So you're saying that it's purely coincidental that MCU is promoting Thor v Hulk as "the greatest gladiator match in history" more than a year after Lex Luthor used those exact same words to describe the fight between Batman and Superman in BvS?
And you're saying that it's purely coincidental that SMH begins by showing a battle from a previous movie from Peter Parker's point of view more than a year after BvS began by showing a battle from a previous movie from Bruce Wayne's point of view?
That's pretty incredible to be just a coincidence. It's like Patriots fans basically saying that all of the following are purely coincidences:
1. Tom Brady gets caught using deflated footballs in an AFC Championship Game to advance to the Super Bowl.
2. The Patriots have an equipment guy on their team who happens to call himself "The Deflator".
3. The Deflator took the bag of footballs out of the Officials' Locker Room area without authorization from the officials and without informing the officials.
4. The Deflator took the bag of footballs into a bathroom (which nobody does) outside the Officials' Locker Room area, even though The Deflator could've used the bathrooms inside the Officials' Locker Room area (and left the footballs in the Officials' Locker Room area while he used those bathrooms).
5. The Deflator claimed that he used a urinal in that bathroom that he took the bag of footballs into. But that bathroom doesn't have a urinal.
6. The Patriots refused to let the independent investigator interview The Deflator about incriminating text messages that he sent, even though the independent investigator offered to drive 75 miles to New Hampshire to interview The Deflator at his home.
7. Brady destroyed his cell phone on the same day that he's scheduled to be interviewed by the independent investigator, who had previously requested the text messages from Brady's cell phone.
That's a lot of "coincidences" and it would be pretty incredible for ALL of these to just a coincidence.
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Post by formersamhmd on Jul 15, 2017 12:31:24 GMT
MCU will take whatever cliches the DCEU spews out and make good stories with them, they always have.
Anyways, that stuff you mention is too basic and archetypal for DCEU to claim is theirs to begin with.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Jul 15, 2017 16:49:43 GMT
MCU will take whatever cliches the DCEU spews out and make good stories with them, they always have. Anyways, that stuff you mention is too basic and archetypal for DCEU to claim is theirs to begin with. You're such a lazy, stupid, worthless dickhead it's almost beyond belief. "Any validity your points have actually benefits the MCU because I'm an arbitrary little fuckface and I think asserting something is the same as proving it. Anyway, those same points I just tried to appropriate from you are too broad to apply to the MCU because I don't understand rhetoric and am trying to assert the same thing in six different directions because I'm too idiotic and uneducated to realize how dumb I sound." Nice work, twat.
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Post by skribb on Jul 15, 2017 18:07:36 GMT
The only "proof" with any substance is the first mention, the latter two are easily coincidental as they are rather cliché and cannot be assumed to be intentional. So you're saying that it's purely coincidental that MCU is promoting Thor v Hulk as "the greatest gladiator match in history" more than a year after Lex Luthor used those exact same words to describe the fight between Batman and Superman in BvS? Intention cannot be ruled out, but I very much doubt it's intentional. It doesn't serve Marvel to "copy" BVS, because Marvel have so far outdone DC with almost every movie. Marvel is not the underdog. The phrase "the greatest gladiator match in history" is not mega-specific and I doubt BVS was the first to use it. Also, the Ragnarok phrase is "The Greatest Gladiator Match In The History Of The Nine Realms", and it's an actual gladiator match set in an actual gladiator arena. As you know BVS did not feature Roman-looking armor and a Colosseum death match. I will ignore your sports references because I don't see how they are relevant.
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Post by Skaathar on Jul 15, 2017 18:27:55 GMT
And BvS copied Avengers.
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Post by formersamhmd on Jul 15, 2017 19:26:31 GMT
MCU will take whatever cliches the DCEU spews out and make good stories with them, they always have. Anyways, that stuff you mention is too basic and archetypal for DCEU to claim is theirs to begin with. You're such a lazy, stupid, worthless dickhead it's almost beyond belief. Calm down Francis, the skin failure is getting worse.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Jul 15, 2017 19:27:45 GMT
You're such a lazy, stupid, worthless dickhead it's almost beyond belief. Calm down Francis, the skin failure is getting worse. Wrong again, BJ.
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Post by formersamhmd on Jul 15, 2017 19:30:22 GMT
Calm down Francis, the skin failure is getting worse. Wrong again, BJ. And this time you had such meltdown it was almost funny.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Jul 15, 2017 19:32:41 GMT
And this time you had such meltdown it was almost funny. You're just ashamed of comic book movies that are wondrous.
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Post by sostie on Jul 16, 2017 11:31:29 GMT
The only "proof" with any substance is the first mention, the latter two are easily coincidental as they are rather cliché and cannot be assumed to be intentional. That's pretty incredible to be just a coincidence. It's like Patriots fans basically saying that all of the following are purely coincidences:
1. Tom Brady gets caught using deflated footballs in an AFC Championship Game to advance to the Super Bowl....
What has Egg Ball Lite got to do with this? People from many nations come to this board, your references mean nothing to those outside the US.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2017 11:44:56 GMT
That's pretty incredible to be just a coincidence. It's like Patriots fans basically saying that all of the following are purely coincidences:
1. Tom Brady gets caught using deflated footballs in an AFC Championship Game to advance to the Super Bowl....
What has Egg Ball Lite got to do with this? People from many nations come to this board, your references mean nothing to those outside the US. Yes he doesnt know his beloved Handegg means nothing in the rest of the world. Its only important in Utrumpia.
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Post by ThatGuy on Jul 16, 2017 13:07:38 GMT
So you're saying that it's purely coincidental that MCU is promoting Thor v Hulk as "the greatest gladiator match in history" more than a year after Lex Luthor used those exact same words to describe the fight between Batman and Superman in BvS? Intention cannot be ruled out, but I very much doubt it's intentional. It doesn't serve Marvel to "copy" BVS, because Marvel have so far outdone DC with almost every movie. Marvel is not the underdog. The phrase "the greatest gladiator match in history" is not mega-specific and I doubt BVS was the first to use it. Also, the Ragnarok phrase is "The Greatest Gladiator Match In The History Of The Nine Realms", and it's an actual gladiator match set in an actual gladiator arena. As you know BVS did not feature Roman-looking armor and a Colosseum death match. I will ignore your sports references because I don't see how they are relevant. I think he grasping at the hate straws now. He's reminding me of Wormhole9 and that other guy with the name with a number from the old boards. When someone says something that the X-men movies did, he (I think they were the same person) would come back days later with the same thing but saying the MCU did it. He think he's upset I kept saying Wonder Woman is a basically First Avenger and The 5th Element.
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Post by skribb on Jul 16, 2017 14:28:02 GMT
He is definitely reaching. lol Wormhole and all the other socks were a riot. I really really miss the clusterfuck of the imdb boards. That kind of drama was much more fun and real than Housewives Of Atlanta ![](https://s26.postimg.org/iqp324knt/bounce.gif)
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Post by sostie on Jul 16, 2017 15:24:49 GMT
So you're saying that it's purely coincidental that MCU is promoting Thor v Hulk as "the greatest gladiator match in history" more than a year after Lex Luthor used those exact same words to describe the fight between Batman and Superman in BvS? Also, the Ragnarok phrase is "The Greatest Gladiator Match In The History Of The Nine Realms", and it's an actual gladiator match set in an actual gladiator arena. I am quite looking forward to this battle, however, before we see it does anyone know if Hulk & Thor's mothers share the same name? it might affect the outcome.
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Post by DC-Fan on Jul 16, 2017 16:10:41 GMT
So you're saying that it's purely coincidental that MCU is promoting Thor v Hulk as "the greatest gladiator match in history" more than a year after Lex Luthor used those exact same words to describe the fight between Batman and Superman in BvS? Intention cannot be ruled out, but I very much doubt it's intentional. The phrase "the greatest gladiator match in history" is not mega-specific and I doubt BVS was the first to use it. I don't remember the phrase "greatest gladiator match in history" being used to refer to Commodus vs Maximus in Gladiator or being used in Spartacus. BvS is the 1st movie I can recall ever using the phrase "greatest gladiator match in history". But if you can find another movie prior to BvS that used the phrase "greatest gladiator match in history", then I'll gladly retract my statement. But if you can't, then you should admit that Thor: Ragnarok is blatantly copying BvS to the point of promoting Thor: Ragnarok using the same words the Lex used to describe the fight between Batman and Superman and even having a poster of Thor and Hulk facing off, similar to the many BvS posters of Batman and Superman facing off.
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Post by skribb on Jul 16, 2017 19:14:38 GMT
DC-FanI admit defeat. However, I still don't know why Marvel would want to copy BVS as they definitely don't need it. BVS doesn't really have any shoulders that Marvel can stand on, or am I in the wrong here? Any theories?
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Post by DC-Fan on Jul 16, 2017 20:12:05 GMT
DC-Fan I admit defeat. However, I still don't know why Marvel would want to copy BVS BvS grossed $873 million at the box office. That's 873 million reasons why MCU copied BvS.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Jul 16, 2017 20:14:10 GMT
Go back to listening to Limp Bizkit and Nickelback, DC-Fan...Wormhole is back so your job of being this boards' resident troll is over.
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