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Post by Dayodead on Jul 16, 2017 10:24:26 GMT
Dismal....Bad concept, script, direction and acting....It comes off as a parody of the second film and a cash grab...
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Post by kingkoopa on Jul 16, 2017 13:47:37 GMT
This is probably the weirdest reaction to a movie I've ever had. Big fan of the first two, "The Terminator" is definitely one of my absolute favorite movies. This one...was tough. I can't say if I liked it or not, but that's probably because of my bias towards the originals and my expectations being way too high. It got some stuff right, but totally missed in other places.
Arnold was pretty good in this and the way they wrote him was effective. He's obviously older, but aside from the strip club scene in the beginning, he plays it very casually in this. While strong enough to take some serious abuse (that tow truck scene was incredible at times), he seems wiser this time around. It kept in tune with what we'd come to understand about how the terminators work, learn, and imitate humanity. At the same time though, who wanted to see Arnold with those pink glasses at the strip club?
The rest of the gang isn't bad. I thought Nick Stahl did alright with what he was given, which wasn't very good. He's constantly shocked and doesn't ever really know what's going on most of the time. He seems like the most stressed out guy in the world (though I guess I might go nuts if I were in his shoes). Claire Danes was good here too. Maybe it's just me, but I got a kick out of her chemistry with Arnold. He and Claire were running around, with Nick Stahl behind terrified and oozing with exposition.
And here comes the problem. When you watch the first one, apocalyptic war against robots that have turned against us is scary. The second one, it is arguably scarier (showing a nuke explosion, technology had advanced, "judgement day" was getting close in the movie's timeline). "T-3" took the fear out of it and replaced it with shiny metal effects. Kristanna Loken did nothing for me...and to be fair, I don't know how you top Robert Patrick in T-2, but there was nothing interesting about her character.
And that dude who played the dead-eyed boyfriend of Claire Danes...possibly the most bland guy I've ever seen. Which is weird in a movie that is playing to robot apocalypse and giant explosions.
All in all, it's just a strange movie. I knew it was off when they dropped the main musical theme in the opening credits. The story presents the events leading to judgement day. This was what every Terminator fan wanted. We get a glimpse at Skynet, Cyberdine, proto-terminators, and Arnold kicking ass. This should be good. Instead, it just had no heart. It's not a bad movie, but it doesn't (and this would have been hard for it to do) stand with the originals. My expectations were probably too high, and I suspect I'm not the only one.
The ending was very well done though. Marco Beltrami's score here (and into the ending credits where they finally use the original theme) is superb. Like someone commented above, the ending kind of saves this movie in a way.
Ugh TL,DR: Not a terrible action movie, but not on the level of its predecessors.
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Post by stefancrosscoe on Jul 16, 2017 16:12:52 GMT
I was so looking forward to seeing it, that I had all these great dreams about how good/great the film was gonna be, which I have never had about any other sequel or movie, but Terminator 3 was gonna be the sequel of all sequels, or so the media kept telling us: It had Arnold, it was gonna be the biggest budget film of all time (or at least up till summer of 2003) and I remember waiting several hours for a less than 30 seconds teaser clip to download from the internet, which feature some logos, Terminator theme and a very, very short clip of Arnie walking bad ass as ever down a dark hall with his classic T-1000 appearence and a big shotgun. Oh, yeah this was gonna be great.
Then in august of 2003, I went in and it all just went from a dream come true about finally a new Terminator film, into a damn nightmare that I just wanted to forget about. The whole disco/macho man scene with the strip club full of horny women and the stupid Elton John sunglasses, I knew then that I was in big trouble. How the hell could they screw it up so bad? As of now, I only have Terminator 1 and 2 in my movie collection, as there is no other Terminator films after that.
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Post by misstique on Jul 16, 2017 16:22:47 GMT
I was so looking forward to seeing it, that I had all these great dreams about how good/great the film was gonna be, which I have never had about any other sequel or movie, but Terminator 3 was gonna be the sequel of all sequels, or so the media kept telling us: It had Arnold, it was gonna be the biggest budget film of all time (or at least up till summer of 2003) and I remember waiting several hours for a less than 30 seconds teaser clip to download from the internet, which feature some logos, Terminator theme and a very, very short clip of Arnie walking bad ass as ever down a dark hall with his classic T-1000 appearence and a big shotgun. Oh, yeah this was gonna be great. Then in august of 2003, I went in and it all just went from a dream come true about finally a new Terminator film, into a damn nightmare that I just wanted to forget about. The whole disco/macho man scene with the strip club full of horny women and the stupid Elton John sunglasses, I knew then that I was in big trouble. How the hell could they screw it up so bad? As of now, I only have Terminator 1 and 2 in my movie collection, as there is no other Terminator films after that. I remember those days all too well! Don't miss them at all. I once waited almost an hour to download a trailer of "Tomorrow Never Dies" only to get the connection dropped when the progress bar had reached 98%!!!
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Post by stefancrosscoe on Jul 16, 2017 16:28:40 GMT
Yeah, the dark ages, before Youtube. I do remember some Napster clone that I and a friend tried to use, and 99 percent of the "Terminator" teasers, turned out to be just random porn clips, and so when we finally got to see the 30 seconds teaser, it felt like "This is just too good to be true", then a couple of months later, I just wanted somebody to erease my meomories like in the Men In Black movies, as T3 was probably my worst cinematic experience, horrible film, horrible audience and I paid to sit through 2 hours of a big nothing. I re-watched the film in 2015 (I think) and thought I might have been too hard on it, turns out, I was probably to kind back then. The terrible attemtps of lame/dull jokes, the constant "look how sexy and not scary at all Kristinna Loken is" plus the "fantastic" acting of Nick Stahl and Claire Danes. The only good part about RIse of the Machines was the end scene, that was really well done, but sadly too damn late.
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Post by them1ghtyhumph on Jul 16, 2017 16:53:07 GMT
Once they get away from the vet's, I think is the best of the Terminator movies.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2017 18:23:23 GMT
Even as a kid, I thought it was strange how less awesome the action and effects were than T2's (though the tow truck scene was kind of cool). I don't know why they didn't just being Eddie Furlong back, they made John a strung out junkie anyway. Claire Danes is no Linda Hamilton. The ending craps on T2. So yeah, nay. Can't decide which is the worst of the non-Cameron sequels. They're all lame in their own unique ways. lmao I never even thought about that but you're right haha.
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Post by Archelaus on Jul 16, 2017 20:24:51 GMT
In comparison to the non-Cameron Terminator films that came after, it's a yeah.
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