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Post by sdrew13163 on Jul 16, 2017 0:54:34 GMT
I kind of like these direct face-offs.
Anyway, I think these are pretty equal in quality.
Which one is better?
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Post by gromel on Jul 16, 2017 6:40:56 GMT
Yeah I guess they are about equal.
Homecoming needed more of the shadow of Uncle Ben = power/responsibility, less the shadow of Iron Man who is basically the closest thing to a father figure he has now. But regardless it felt fresh for being more pure adventure than the other Spider-Man films. Romance took a backseat and it's just a stupid high school crush.
Doctor Strange was another riff on the standard MCU origin (understandable) but the powers and visuals and I've come to bargain kept it interesting.
Homecoming used humor better. At times the humor in Doctor Strange felt forced.
Vulture was a better villain than Evil Sorcerer Man though he and his crew were more interesting than Disney's gormless Dark Side users. Invisible swords and fire whips, dude.
But due to the relative lack of Uncle Ben which is a pretty big thing to flub, Doctor Strange is better by a little bit.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2017 6:52:46 GMT
That's hard actually.
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Post by brownstones on Jul 16, 2017 16:21:15 GMT
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Jul 16, 2017 17:49:25 GMT
Spider-Man was better but both are great.
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Post by barkingbaphomet on Jul 16, 2017 18:03:52 GMT
Spider-Man is structured better and felt more creative storywise. its supporting cast is stronger. i doubt many will argue over its villain being superior.
Strange gets points for the incredible visuals (first time vfx have wowed me in i can't even remember how long) and clever climax but it doesn't measure up as a total package.
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Post by miike80 on Jul 16, 2017 18:07:56 GMT
Spiderman is my choice
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Jul 16, 2017 21:49:10 GMT
Logan
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Post by politicidal on Jul 16, 2017 23:42:43 GMT
Doctor Strange. It had a far tighter script and a more clearly defined arc for its character. And a few characters in Homecoming were either underutilized like Aunt May or not that interesting like Michelle or just bad acting like Flash; Ned was really grating until the end when his fat ass finally pulls his weight. Doctor Strange's cast is full of heavy hitters that are at the least functional and don't seem pointless. To Homecoming's credit, Vulture was an awesome villain. Mads Mikkelsen was above average but had too little screen time.
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Post by ShadowSouL: Padawan of Yoda on Jul 17, 2017 5:02:00 GMT
Both are excellent in terms of writing, directing, acting, and especially visual effects.
I would say that Dr. Strange has the edge in terms of state-of-the-art visual effects, because they were literally tripping and mind-blowing, especially Dr. Strange's first astral projection, the New York City chase scene, and the final showdown with Dormammu.
But overall, Homecoming wins for me because I am more of Spider-Man fan than a Dr.Strange fan, and this sixth installment/third version is my favorite because it was more fun, charming, and entertaining without any of the sappy melodrama of the previous five films.
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Post by sdrew13163 on Jul 17, 2017 6:19:59 GMT
Doctor Strange. It had a far tighter script and a more clearly defined arc for its character. And a few characters in Homecoming were either underutilized like Aunt May or not that interesting like Michelle or just bad acting like Flash; Ned was really grating until the end when his fat ass finally pulls his weight. Doctor Strange's cast is full of heavy hitters that are at the least functional and don't seem pointless. To Homecoming's credit, Vulture was an awesome villain. Mads Mikkelsen was above average but had too little screen time. My sentiments exactly. Well said! Doctor Strange felt like a better movie if you bundle every aspect together. Spider-Man was good, but it doesn't work as well as a whole. |
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Jul 17, 2017 12:44:09 GMT
I kind of like these direct face-offs. Anyway, I think these are pretty equal in quality. Which one is better? This is a tough one, and I don't think there is an answer to it.
I for one, love most of the MCU films on a near equal basis. I've never even attempted to put together a 1-16 ranked list. I would have no idea how that would go to be honest.
DR STRANGE: Was a fantastic depiction of how magic works and introduced some stellar new locations and characters. SPIDERMAN: Did an amazing job of following what it would be like for a young aspiring Avenger in high school and how he adapts to his powers.
I just think they both did exactly what they needed to do and what they set out to do. Mission accomplished in both cases. I love them.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Jul 17, 2017 12:51:42 GMT
Both are excellent in terms of writing, directing, acting, and especially visual effects. I would say that Dr. Strange has the edge in terms of state-of-the-art visual effects, because they were literally tripping and mind-blowing, especially Dr. Strange's first astral projection, the New York City chase scene, and the final showdown with Dormammu. But overall, Homecoming wins for me because I am more of Spider-Man fan than a Dr.Strange fan, and this sixth installment/third version is my favorite because it was more fun, charming, and entertaining without any of the sappy melodrama of the previous five films. You said something interesting here that I wanted to follow up on.
Visuals, at least IMO, don't make a film better, unless there is a reason for them to exist to enhance the story. Spiderman doesn't need trippy visuals, so I don't consider that a bonus to Dr. Strange for the simple reason that they aren't supposed to be in Spidey and thus I wouldn't hold that against Homecoming. Now if you were comparing visual heavy films like perhaps Guardians with Dr. Strange, then yes, those factors become relevant in a comparison.
The only factors that really make films better or worse to one another is the narrative construction and the acting, along with of course the entire editing process that effects pacing, etc.
And in that regard, it's hard to say. Both had fantastic acting and characterization. Strange probably had the more upbeat pace, seeming to never stop, while Spidey was more deliberate on purpose to allow Peter to take in and experience the things going on around him.
I think both accomplished exactly what they wanted to and for that reason I can't place one above the other. They both are what they needed to be.
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Post by Skaathar on Jul 17, 2017 16:50:40 GMT
I actually found Dr. Strange a pretty mediocre entry for the MCU. Homecoming did everything better except for maybe visual spectacle. But the plot and character arcs were better, the interaction between characters were better, even the side characters were better, the humor was better and the villain definitely way better.
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Post by sdrew13163 on Jul 18, 2017 17:43:06 GMT
I actually found Dr. Strange a pretty mediocre entry for the MCU. Homecoming did everything better except for maybe visual spectacle. But the plot and character arcs were better, the interaction between characters were better, even the side characters were better, the humor was better and the villain definitely way better. I didn't like any of the arcs in SMH. Actually the only real arc was Peter's, but even then he just kind of went from wanting to be an Avenger to not. I liked Strange's arc where he went from a pompous douche bag to a world-saving superhero. |
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Post by Skaathar on Jul 18, 2017 23:32:01 GMT
I actually found Dr. Strange a pretty mediocre entry for the MCU. Homecoming did everything better except for maybe visual spectacle. But the plot and character arcs were better, the interaction between characters were better, even the side characters were better, the humor was better and the villain definitely way better. I didn't like any of the arcs in SMH. Actually the only real arc was Peter's, but even then he just kind of went from wanting to be an Avenger to not. I liked Strange's arc where he went from a pompous douche bag to a world-saving superhero. Which actually makes Spiderman's arc unique. The douche-bag to hero storyline has been covered before already, most notably with Stark and Thor. With Peter, he started off big (recruited in Civil War) and ended up being small and accepted being small (saving people in his neighborhood). That's a more unique character arc than Dr. Strange's. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2017 0:12:22 GMT
I really liked Strange's arc. I found his to be more about learning to accept and appreciate imperfection along with that "it's not about him". His donning the broken watch at the end was one of the most profound simple scenes to me. Wabi-Sabi. I'm not so sure that one has been done so much in something like an MCU film.
Parker's was good as well. Evolving into appreciating being "Just your friendly neighborhood Spiderman", for real. vs. him just saying it as a catchphrase over the typical learning with great power comes great responsibility for once. But I liked Strange better.
The villain? Hands down Vulture. If he went up against Stark, I would have been rooting for him to get in a few good cheap shots.
I give Strange the overall edge.
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Post by kevin on Nov 1, 2017 21:14:40 GMT
My vote goes to Spider-Man: Homecoming (8/10), but Doctor Strange is also a good movie (7/10).
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Post by justanaveragejoe on Nov 1, 2017 21:21:24 GMT
Both 9/10 for me, but I gave the edge to Spider-Man: Homecoming.
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Post by spooner5020 on Nov 2, 2017 17:50:32 GMT
They're both pretty good,but for different reasons. Doctor Strange is good cause it was a great take on the character and a great first movie for him. Spider-Man homecoming is good because we actually got a Spider-Man that has a good Peter and a good spiderman. Also both were just really fun movies if I could I would have gone to see them twice. Hell I even own both on the blu Ray combo pack.
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