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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2017 8:51:48 GMT
Even if you do just so people won't mock you for it ?
And do you ever say you do believe in God just so people won't try to convert you ?
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Post by Aj_June on Aug 4, 2017 8:59:22 GMT
Outside of this forum, I never bring the subject of God by myself*. I am an apatheist so I never make statements such as I believe in God or I don't believe in God. God is as irrelevant to me as loch ness monster.
*I remember on one occasion that I brought subject of religion was when I met Chinese students when I used to be a student myself. Then I wanted to know what they thought about religion. To my disbelief majority of them had no idea about the concept of religion.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2017 11:21:16 GMT
And do you ever say you do believe in God just so people won't try to convert you ? No. In the UK there's really no need to try and avoid people converting you - it's hard to get across to Americans just how non-religious the UK is. In fact surveys show us as one of the least religious countries in the world. By far the strongest reaction I've ever got to telling somebody I was an atheist was when one of those "Can I tell you the good news" people came to my door (something that's only happened once in my entire life). When I told him, his response was a surprised "Really? That's interesting, I don't think I've ever met an atheist before." He went on to ask me why I was an atheist and what it was like, and then went on his way. By far the commonest reaction you get is a mild "Oh, I'm church of England/catholic/whatever myself."
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Aug 4, 2017 11:25:54 GMT
I have no reason to lie about my beliefs.
On the rare occasions someone tries to convert me, it's pretty easy to stop them.
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Post by OldSamVimes on Aug 4, 2017 11:29:22 GMT
No.
I'm not afraid of being mocked or engaging in a discussion.
I believe in all the Gods. I'm not a selective atheist.
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Post by Terrapin Station on Aug 4, 2017 11:31:56 GMT
I'm an atheist. I've never said the opposite so that people don't mock me or try to convert me or anything. Online I can just ignore folks. In person, people aren't going to harass me. I'm a (US) football player-sized, kinda biker-lookin' dude, and in situations where someone would try to be at all manipulative or controlling, I have a personality where I can and do quickly trump them so that they regret engaging with me.
I have said the opposite to hook up with women, though.
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Post by rachelcarson1953 on Aug 4, 2017 16:03:36 GMT
Even if you do just so people won't mock you for it ? And do you ever say you do believe in God just so people won't try to convert you ? I am an agnostic atheist, I live in the US, in the buckle of the Bible Belt, and for several reasons, I have to be careful how I answer that. 1. I once wrote an editorial that was published in the local newspaper, which by their policy had to include my name, and since I was disagreeing with a local politician who was openly Evangelical, I got death threats over the phone for several weeks, people telling me I was going to burn in hell, etc. I didn't even use the word 'atheist', but it started a sh!tstorm. 2. My aged mother is Southern Baptist, as are all her friends. I was raised in that church, but haven't attended except for my father's funeral, in decades. But I can't say the 'a' word around any of them. 3. I never answer the door, period, just to avoid the Jehovah's Witnesses and Mormons. 4. If I am in the awkward position of being confronted about what I believe, I generally just say that I am a student of comparative religion, and go of on some tangent that throws off the confronter. I tried saying I was a Secular Humanist, but apparently that is code for 'satan-worshipper'. Sometimes I just say that I was raised Southern Baptist, but became a Lutheran in college, omitting the part about rejecting all of it as fantasy and wishful thinking later in life. It's a dicey subject here in the US, and there are only a few like-minded friends around whom I can be honest. They are also careful in public.
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Post by camimac on Aug 4, 2017 16:19:51 GMT
When the subject comes up or in appropriate conversation, I always say I believe in God. "Whoever denies me before men, I also will deny before my Father which is in heaven." Matthew 10:33.
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Post by thefleetsin on Aug 4, 2017 23:18:27 GMT
which god?
there have been so many.
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Post by lowtacks86 on Aug 4, 2017 23:31:26 GMT
It's very rare I talk religion outside this forum. If it does come up I typically don't refer to myself as "atheist" just because so many people don't actually know what it means. I just say "I'm not particularly religious" (which is basically atheism anyways).
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2017 0:05:42 GMT
which god? there have been so many. Don`t akt stupid you undersstand the question.
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Post by pennypacker on Aug 5, 2017 2:44:50 GMT
Yes, I lie to my grandmother about my atheism. It's just easier.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2017 8:34:16 GMT
If the subject of religion comes up in discussion and someone says that they don't believe in God, I make sure that I make it clear that I also don't believe in God. Because I want it to be known that I am not delusional. However, for some reason I have been rather reticent about bringing up my atheism when speaking with theists in real life. I'm more likely to make some kind of passive aggressive remark than actually just come out and say that I'm an atheist.
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Post by Karl Aksel on Aug 5, 2017 8:46:52 GMT
No. I'm an atheist. I sometimes do not say I'm an atheist, but that is in order not to offend anyone. My father is deeply religious, but even though he knows I'm not, he doesn't know I'm an atheist. I am both able and happy to discuss Christian theology with him without making it apparent that I don't actually believe the stuff.
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Post by Moviefan on Aug 5, 2017 10:37:43 GMT
No, I'm honest about my beliefs.
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Post by phludowin on Aug 5, 2017 11:37:48 GMT
Even if you do just so people won't mock you for it ? And do you ever say you do believe in God just so people won't try to convert you ? I'm an atheist. I don't parade it; but I don't lie about it either. When the subject comes up and people ask me, I say I'm atheist. But I usually don't try to start a discussion on the subject.
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Post by OpiateOfTheMasses on Aug 5, 2017 23:19:01 GMT
And do you ever say you do believe in God just so people won't try to convert you ? No. In the UK there's really no need to try and avoid people converting you - it's hard to get across to Americans just how non-religious the UK is. In fact surveys show us as one of the least religious countries in the world. By far the strongest reaction I've ever got to telling somebody I was an atheist was when one of those "Can I tell you the good news" people came to my door (something that's only happened once in my entire life). When I told him, his response was a surprised "Really? That's interesting, I don't think I've ever met an atheist before." He went on to ask me why I was an atheist and what it was like, and then went on his way. By far the commonest reaction you get is a mild "Oh, I'm church of England/catholic/whatever myself." I'm also from the UK and I agree - the over-whelming majority of the people here really don't care one way or the other and will live and let live. Two points I will add to that though: 1. We do get people coming to our door trying to tell us about God. We live relatively close to a Jehovah's Witness Church and a LDS Church so every so often we'll get people wandering the streets knocking on doors trying to convert the locals and I always tell them I'm an atheist and they always try to persuade me I'm wrong. I do debate with them. I won't say argue cos that makes it sound much more hostile than it actually is. Anyway - it's better me than when the wife answers cos she just tells them to f__k off. 2. Many of our political leaders are openly atheist which would never happen in America. I remember Tony Blair saying he played down his religious beliefs whilst he was in office because he was concerned it would be unpopular with voters and he only admitted them once he left office. That sort of thing. Very much the opposite way round to the other side of the pond.
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Post by 🌵 on Aug 5, 2017 23:35:43 GMT
I've never lied about my views on this topic, as far as I recall. I couldn't care less if people mock me.
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Post by Cinemachinery on Aug 5, 2017 23:52:13 GMT
I've brushed off some aggressive JWs and a couple of North Indiana mega-church "recruiters" with "I already attend another." Technically true - I attend a Methodist church every time I visit my in-laws.
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