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Post by Larcen26 on Aug 8, 2017 18:11:19 GMT
Jake is part of the books, and is a major part of the books. But it's Roland's story through and through.
And unfortunately, calling this film a sequel to the books gives an improper idea of what happens in the books. The best analogy I can come up with is if you called Harry Potter a sequel series to Game of Thrones. Oh, I know that. I just don't think it's a big deal to switch main characters after eight books. That may be so...but I think that the thought that it COULD switch main characters, and still be called The Dark Tower, shows the disconnect between those familiar with the story, and those going in cold. Or even those, like you, who are going in with some knowledge that this is intended as a continuation. I don't blame you for it in any way, the way this has been marketed and discussed would completely lead me to your conclusion if I hadn't been more familiar with the books. Roland, the Man in Black and the Tower are the only three things that are truly needed, but they are essential, it's their story. Everything else can be thrown away. So this film puts the focus on all of the things that can be thrown away. "Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them" is a great story within the Harry Potter universe, it's part of canon and continuity and everything, it is inexorably linked...but it's not called "Harry Potter and the Fantastic Beasts"
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Post by Nora on Aug 9, 2017 21:36:33 GMT
well it is my job to write about movies so… I should see the whole thing :-). So whenever possible I try to stay till the end. But this one just was too painful to suffer through. How do you expect to have any credibility after admitting to walking out on movies several times a month? when I do walk out on a movie I either do not write a review on that movie and let one of my colleagues write it (like with the Dark Tower) or I will let my readers know that I walked out and tell them also at what point I walked out - its directly in the review. and its not several times a month but maybe every two months. And I see 4-5 movies each week…
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Post by Nora on Aug 9, 2017 21:37:33 GMT
I see everything that opens each week. I walk out on a movie maybe once every two months. When its super-boring and/or super-painful to watch. Like mind-numbingly stupid etc. Unfortunately this was the case. I like the main actors, I respect the director and writers that worked on this, yet the result was unbearable for me. It seemed very formulaic, cheap, didn't trust the audience to be smart enough to understand certain things so there was a lot of dialoguesplaining, (I hate that), the world didn't seem complex enough, none of their characters were really interesting, the dead father trauma is SO used by now and on top of it all it didn't look visually interesting either. I really tried. I stayed for more than an hour. But couldn't take it anymore. The kid was acting well though. But he was given a shit script to chew through. Same with McConaughey, his dialogue was maybe the most painful to bear. Anyone has seen it and liked it? What did you enjoy about it? What's it like to waste money on a regular basis? its my job to see all (or as many as I can) the movies that come out…
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Post by Nora on Aug 9, 2017 21:46:22 GMT
well it is my job to write about movies so… I should see the whole thing :-). So whenever possible I try to stay till the end. But this one just was too painful to suffer through. So you're a movie critic? Anyway, what is your top movie so far this year? I haven't seen as many movies as in 2016 but is it only me who find 2017 to be rather disappointing? I mean, at this point in time last year I watched and knew some of the movies I've seen were Oscar worthy or had quality to them but I got nothing so far this year, except maybe Dunkirk ? The disappointments seems to pile up really fast compared to the surprises and good movies. I didn't have high expectations for all of those but Life, The Mummy, Lost City of Z, Atomic Blonde, Alien Covenant, War of the Planet of the Apes, Ghost in the Shell, Guardians of the Galaxy 2 and Kong Skull Island were all subpar in my book. I got a bad feeling about Blade Runner 2049 but it's one I hope will do better than expected. Part time, yes. this year hasn't been too good on movies it seems. When I look at my ratings, the best I've given so far was: 1. Get Out 2. Logan 3. Land of Mine But I would highly recommend for example also this small b movie (kinda of office slasher) Belko Experiment. It has great entertainment value.The Mummy was my biggest disappointment this year so far…
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Post by poelzig on Aug 9, 2017 22:27:03 GMT
What's it like to waste money on a regular basis? its my job to see all (or as many as I can) the movies that come out… Are you a legitimate critic or just online like every other person these days? In other words tell us who you write for and where we can peruse some of your reviews.
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Post by Nora on Aug 10, 2017 2:26:19 GMT
its my job to see all (or as many as I can) the movies that come out… Are you a legitimate critic or just online like every other person these days? In other words tell us who you write for and where we can peruse some of your reviews. it depends how you define legitimate critic. if you define legitimate critic as someone who publishes their reviews in print, then no, I am not legitimate, as my reviews are only on-line. if you define legitimate as someone who is hired by a media outlet specializing in movies and entertainment, to write about movies and entertainment, then yes, I am legitimate. But you wouldn't be able to peruse my reviews, since I publish in Europe and not in English. But above all, I am a fan. Even before someone offered to publish my reviews, I went to see everything each week. For years. I love movies. Often even the bad ones. I love predicting Oscars and other awards too. Movies and everything about it has been my hobby for as long as I remember.
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Post by poelzig on Aug 10, 2017 3:34:16 GMT
Are you a legitimate critic or just online like every other person these days? In other words tell us who you write for and where we can peruse some of your reviews. it depends how you define legitimate critic. if you define legitimate critic as someone who publishes their reviews in print, then no, I am not legitimate, as my reviews are only on-line. if you define legitimate as someone who is hired by a media outlet specializing in movies and entertainment, to write about movies and entertainment, then yes, I am legitimate. But you wouldn't be able to peruse my reviews, since I publish in Europe and not in English. But above all, I am a fan. Even before someone offered to publish my reviews, I went to see everything each week. For years. I love movies. Often even the bad ones. I love predicting Oscars and other awards too. Movies and everything about it has been my hobby for as long as I remember. Paycheck equals legit as far as I'm concerned so you sound like you are probably legit. Unless they pay you in souffle or sweet breads or something. Oh or unless they pay you in Euros either.
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Post by formersamhmd on Aug 10, 2017 12:52:50 GMT
Once I realized they were going to try and incorporate more of the other books into this movie I knew it was going to be a disaster. They would've been better off just making a straightforward adaptation of The Gunslinger, since it was a relatively short novel to begin with.
Of course, there would've been problems there because Roland is rather 1-Dimensional in the first book and the big climax wasn't some big showdown but rather Walter just explaining the rules of the Universe to Roland after we saw how obsessed he was with the Dark Tower.
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Post by mecano04 on Aug 10, 2017 14:14:44 GMT
Are you a legitimate critic or just online like every other person these days? In other words tell us who you write for and where we can peruse some of your reviews. it depends how you define legitimate critic. if you define legitimate critic as someone who publishes their reviews in print, then no, I am not legitimate, as my reviews are only on-line. if you define legitimate as someone who is hired by a media outlet specializing in movies and entertainment, to write about movies and entertainment, then yes, I am legitimate. But you wouldn't be able to peruse my reviews, since I publish in Europe and not in English. But above all, I am a fan. Even before someone offered to publish my reviews, I went to see everything each week. For years. I love movies. Often even the bad ones. I love predicting Oscars and other awards too. Movies and everything about it has been my hobby for as long as I remember. If it's french, I'm good to read them!
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Post by hi224 on Aug 10, 2017 18:34:17 GMT
I see everything that opens each week. I walk out on a movie maybe once every two months. When its super-boring and/or super-painful to watch. Like mind-numbingly stupid etc. Unfortunately this was the case. I like the main actors, I respect the director and writers that worked on this, yet the result was unbearable for me. It seemed very formulaic, cheap, didn't trust the audience to be smart enough to understand certain things so there was a lot of dialoguesplaining, (I hate that), the world didn't seem complex enough, none of their characters were really interesting, the dead father trauma is SO used by now and on top of it all it didn't look visually interesting either. I really tried. I stayed for more than an hour. But couldn't take it anymore. The kid was acting well though. But he was given a shit script to chew through. Same with McConaughey, his dialogue was maybe the most painful to bear. Anyone has seen it and liked it? What did you enjoy about it? What's it like to waste money on a regular basis?I can see the point you are making regarding walking out, but don't see how its a waste to see everything, some people like going to the movies often as well. I go see at least one movie a week.
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Post by hi224 on Aug 10, 2017 18:36:35 GMT
well it is my job to write about movies so… I should see the whole thing :-). So whenever possible I try to stay till the end. But this one just was too painful to suffer through. How can you discern an opinion on a movie if you walk out so frequently, no offense but damn thats alot.
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Post by kuatorises on Aug 10, 2017 18:48:09 GMT
What's it like to waste money on a regular basis? I can see the point you are making regarding walking out, but don't see how its a waste to see everything, some people like going to the movies often as well. I go see at least one movie a week. I mean it's a waste of time and money to walk out on a movie, however in Nora's case she's getting paid to do it. That's not the typical circumstance.
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Post by hi224 on Aug 10, 2017 18:50:26 GMT
I can see the point you are making regarding walking out, but don't see how its a waste to see everything, some people like going to the movies often as well. I go see at least one movie a week. I mean it's a waste of time and money to walk out on a movie, however in Nora's case she's getting paid to do it. That's not the typical circumstance. Ah my bad.
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Post by kuatorises on Aug 10, 2017 18:53:19 GMT
I mean it's a waste of time and money to walk out on a movie, however in Nora's case she's getting paid to do it. That's not the typical circumstance. Ah my bad. No problem.
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Post by kuatorises on Aug 10, 2017 18:54:33 GMT
Are you a legitimate critic or just online like every other person these days? In other words tell us who you write for and where we can peruse some of your reviews. it depends how you define legitimate critic. if you define legitimate critic as someone who publishes their reviews in print, then no, I am not legitimate, as my reviews are only on-line. if you define legitimate as someone who is hired by a media outlet specializing in movies and entertainment, to write about movies and entertainment, then yes, I am legitimate. But you wouldn't be able to peruse my reviews, since I publish in Europe and not in English. But above all, I am a fan. Even before someone offered to publish my reviews, I went to see everything each week. For years. I love movies. Often even the bad ones. I love predicting Oscars and other awards too. Movies and everything about it has been my hobby for as long as I remember. You get paid, your a legit professional. That has always been a dream job of mine.
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Post by Nora on Aug 10, 2017 21:20:10 GMT
well it is my job to write about movies so… I should see the whole thing :-). So whenever possible I try to stay till the end. But this one just was too painful to suffer through. How can you discern an opinion on a movie if you walk out so frequently, no offense but damn thats alot. Count with me. I see about 5 movies each week. I walk out on maybe one movie every two months. Thats one movie out of 40. Is it really "so frequently"? But even if you say "yes, it is!" - the main point is (and I mentioned it above already): If I walk out, I do not write the review, it goes to one of my colleagues. If for whatever reason that doesn't work out (and in the years I have been doing this, it happened exactly twice) then I do write the review BUT I tell the readers directly in the review that I walked out, I tell them why, and ALSO tell them after how long I left. One of those two reviews like this was The VVitch, for example (great movie, highly recommend it for horror lovers), where I walked out about 15 minutes before the end. In my review, it says exactly that.
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Post by Nora on Aug 10, 2017 21:29:42 GMT
it depends how you define legitimate critic. if you define legitimate critic as someone who publishes their reviews in print, then no, I am not legitimate, as my reviews are only on-line. if you define legitimate as someone who is hired by a media outlet specializing in movies and entertainment, to write about movies and entertainment, then yes, I am legitimate. But you wouldn't be able to peruse my reviews, since I publish in Europe and not in English. But above all, I am a fan. Even before someone offered to publish my reviews, I went to see everything each week. For years. I love movies. Often even the bad ones. I love predicting Oscars and other awards too. Movies and everything about it has been my hobby for as long as I remember. You get paid, your a legit professional. That has always been a dream job of mine. thanks. thats how I see it also. And it started as a hobby. I just happened to see all new movies each week (at the cinema, I never watch new movies at home, thats one of my rules) for years, and it gave me edge that not that many people had, I realized. Then one year I started predicting Oscars with an unusually high rate of success, and that got me noticed. This year, before they announced the mistake, I had 100% success in the 15 "key" categories, and cca 90% overall. It was a good year. I won over all my colleagues in the magazine, and got super-cocky and all high on myself…. before they called Moonlight instead of LaLaLand. Oh well. It was good 90 seconds though. Maybe next year I'll have my 100%. :-)
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Post by Nora on Aug 10, 2017 21:37:29 GMT
I mean it's a waste of time and money to walk out on a movie, however in Nora's case she's getting paid to do it. That's not the typical circumstance. Ah my bad. but hey, to be honest, i did that even before writing about it professionally. and I never considered it "waste of money". Or time. I simply love seeing movies on the big screen. And I miss it if I don't do it regularly. and regarding walking out - to me going to see the movie and finding out it is bad, is not a "loss". I never walk out after less than 40 minutes also, I do give the movie a very decent chance. And when I walk out, I am "richer" for the knowledge of: this was bad, and these are the reasons I would say it was bad for, and this is the director or screenwriter to watch out for next time and see if it was a one time problem (like Warcraft seems to have been for Duncan Jones) or a this is just their steady level (like Patricia Riggen for example)… since I am simply crazy about movies, to me this experience and gained knowledge is worth it, and thus is not a waste of time or money.
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Post by hi224 on Aug 11, 2017 0:37:57 GMT
but hey, to be honest, i did that even before writing about it professionally. and I never considered it "waste of money". Or time. I simply love seeing movies on the big screen. And I miss it if I don't do it regularly. and regarding walking out - to me going to see the movie and finding out it is bad, is not a "loss". I never walk out after less than 40 minutes also, I do give the movie a very decent chance. And when I walk out, I am "richer" for the knowledge of: this was bad, and these are the reasons I would say it was bad for, and this is the director or screenwriter to watch out for next time and see if it was a one time problem (like Warcraft seems to have been for Duncan Jones) or a this is just their steady level (like Patricia Riggen for example)… since I am simply crazy about movies, to me this experience and gained knowledge is worth it, and thus is not a waste of time or money. I feel like we might enjoy going together lol
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Post by Nora on Aug 11, 2017 2:20:01 GMT
but hey, to be honest, i did that even before writing about it professionally. and I never considered it "waste of money". Or time. I simply love seeing movies on the big screen. And I miss it if I don't do it regularly. and regarding walking out - to me going to see the movie and finding out it is bad, is not a "loss". I never walk out after less than 40 minutes also, I do give the movie a very decent chance. And when I walk out, I am "richer" for the knowledge of: this was bad, and these are the reasons I would say it was bad for, and this is the director or screenwriter to watch out for next time and see if it was a one time problem (like Warcraft seems to have been for Duncan Jones) or a this is just their steady level (like Patricia Riggen for example)… since I am simply crazy about movies, to me this experience and gained knowledge is worth it, and thus is not a waste of time or money. I feel like we might enjoy going together lol I have been told I am not a very good companionship at the cinema… And I can see that. I probably have the best time if I am there by myself. I kinda wink (in my mind) at other people who are there by themselves also, and wonder who they are and why they are there alone. If I go with someone its best if they are also super-fans of the cinema. Then the excitement and energy level matches and thats good.
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