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Post by The Herald Erjen on Aug 6, 2017 6:55:20 GMT
Here's a presentation from our old friend David Icke, whom we all know and respect. Enjoy. Disclaimer: The usual. My thoughts: As mentioned earlier, I do not think of Genesis as a "rewrite" of the Sumerian tablets. I think that Moses wrote Genesis after receiving a direct download of information from God's mind to his. Call me crazy, but that's what I think happened. I think the Anunnaki existed and may still exist, but I don't think they originated on some other planet, nor do I think they gave the world its first civilization. I think that's all a load designed for appeal to materialists and weaklings who find "evolution" boring and long for something with more purpose to it but are still unwilling to accept the idea that there is One true God of the Universe. That's what I think. What do YOU think?
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Post by yougotastewgoinbaby on Aug 6, 2017 7:32:21 GMT
I think the Anunnaki are old gods of forgotten mythology that the Sumerians, and more actively, later Akkadians and Babylonians used to recall even more ancient times. Archeology in the 20th century has really pushed our understanding of near east history back further than even the traditional dates for Sumeria. Cities existed dating back to 12,000 - 9,000 B.C. Of course, no writing for these earliest cities exist anymore, so who the hell knows whom these people and what they believed. But, perhaps some cultural memory persisted down to the ages, and by the time the Sumerians and Akkadians came along, they new of these old myths and God's, and incorporated them into their own pantheon.
As for Genesis, I think that it was probably written sometime after the Babylonian Exile. Archeology seems to indicate that prior to the exile, the Jews were polytheistic, with Yahweh being the chief god in their pantheon. It's only after the exile that they seem to embrace monotheism, probably from the influence of the their Zoroastrian liberators. The Torah in its entirety was probably written down post-exile as a way to codify their laws and faith. The time spent in Babylon could also explain why older Sumerian myths such as the flood were incorporated into Genesis.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Aug 6, 2017 7:43:44 GMT
When I saw that you were online I thought you might reply, and the content of your reply was predictable as well.
Do you believe in any gods? Even gods that were actually aliens from outer space?
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Post by yougotastewgoinbaby on Aug 6, 2017 7:49:01 GMT
I predicted that you would predictably post a video about the Anannuki, and so I gave into my predilections, and posted a predictably predictable post.
Just out of curiosity, what don't you like about my response?
No and no.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Aug 6, 2017 7:59:28 GMT
I predicted that you would predictably post a video about the Anannuki, and so I gave into my predilections, and posted a predictably predictable post. Just out of curiosity, what don't you like about my response? No and no. What don't I like about it? Let's just say that it's a bit too pro-establishment for my tastes. So you have no trouble believing what I was told in 5th grade, that humans after evolving for millions of years suddenly put down their clubs and built cities with government, law, math, architecture, agriculture, astronomy, literature, and all the other conventionally accepted marks of civilization? No help from anyone. They just did it all on their own, right?
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Post by yougotastewgoinbaby on Aug 7, 2017 6:14:35 GMT
I predicted that you would predictably post a video about the Anannuki, and so I gave into my predilections, and posted a predictably predictable post. Just out of curiosity, what don't you like about my response? No and no. What don't I like about it? Let's just say that it's a bit too pro-establishment for my tastes. So you have no trouble believing what I was told in 5th grade, that humans after evolving for millions of years suddenly put down their clubs and built cities with government, law, math, architecture, agriculture, astronomy, literature, and all the other conventionally accepted marks of civilization? No help from anyone. They just did it all on their own, right? Well, I suppose we have different definitions of 'suddenly'. Lets consider the Indus Valley Civilization. The high points of that society appear to be last from ~3000 - 1600 BC. That's when you have large urban areas with well developed cities, art, writing...all that chic shit. The first hints of a growing society in the Indus Valley date back to 7000 BC, where you have the first (known) village, Mehrgarh. Farming predates Mehrgarh by a couple thousand years, so people had been farming in the Indus Valley since a least 9000 BC. So, farming starts at 9000 BC, then the first cities start at 7000 BC, and it isn't until 3000 BC that we truly have urban areas and a well developed society. Those are gaps of 2000 between the inception of farming and the first town, and 4000 years between the first town and the civilization's height, respectively. You would characterize that amount of time as 'suddenly'? How about Sumeria. Archeology indicates that the first Sumerian cities came about 5000 - 4500 BC. That civilization reached its height at 3000 - 2500 BC. Now, prior to Sumerian civilization, there are many cities across mesopotamia that date back to 13000 BC. 13000 - 3000 = 10000 years between the first recognized cities and the height of Sumeria...you would characterize that as 'suddenly'?
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Aug 7, 2017 15:39:09 GMT
What don't I like about it? Let's just say that it's a bit too pro-establishment for my tastes. So you have no trouble believing what I was told in 5th grade, that humans after evolving for millions of years suddenly put down their clubs and built cities with government, law, math, architecture, agriculture, astronomy, literature, and all the other conventionally accepted marks of civilization? No help from anyone. They just did it all on their own, right? Well, I suppose we have different definitions of 'suddenly'. Lets consider the Indus Valley Civilization. The high points of that society appear to be last from ~3000 - 1600 BC. That's when you have large urban areas with well developed cities, art, writing...all that chic shit. The first hints of a growing society in the Indus Valley date back to 7000 BC, where you have the first (known) village, Mehrgarh. Farming predates Mehrgarh by a couple thousand years, so people had been farming in the Indus Valley since a least 9000 BC. So, farming starts at 9000 BC, then the first cities start at 7000 BC, and it isn't until 3000 BC that we truly have urban areas and a well developed society. Those are gaps of 2000 between the inception of farming and the first town, and 4000 years between the first town and the civilization's height, respectively. You would characterize that amount of time as 'suddenly'? How about Sumeria. Archeology indicates that the first Sumerian cities came about 5000 - 4500 BC. That civilization reached its height at 3000 - 2500 BC. Now, prior to Sumerian civilization, there are many cities across mesopotamia that date back to 13000 BC. 13000 - 3000 = 10000 years between the first recognized cities and the height of Sumeria...you would characterize that as 'suddenly'? If you buy into the story that mankind took millions of years to evolve, then yes, it was suddenly.
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Post by yougotastewgoinbaby on Aug 8, 2017 23:38:50 GMT
Well, I suppose we have different definitions of 'suddenly'. Lets consider the Indus Valley Civilization. The high points of that society appear to be last from ~3000 - 1600 BC. That's when you have large urban areas with well developed cities, art, writing...all that chic shit. The first hints of a growing society in the Indus Valley date back to 7000 BC, where you have the first (known) village, Mehrgarh. Farming predates Mehrgarh by a couple thousand years, so people had been farming in the Indus Valley since a least 9000 BC. So, farming starts at 9000 BC, then the first cities start at 7000 BC, and it isn't until 3000 BC that we truly have urban areas and a well developed society. Those are gaps of 2000 between the inception of farming and the first town, and 4000 years between the first town and the civilization's height, respectively. You would characterize that amount of time as 'suddenly'? How about Sumeria. Archeology indicates that the first Sumerian cities came about 5000 - 4500 BC. That civilization reached its height at 3000 - 2500 BC. Now, prior to Sumerian civilization, there are many cities across mesopotamia that date back to 13000 BC. 13000 - 3000 = 10000 years between the first recognized cities and the height of Sumeria...you would characterize that as 'suddenly'? If you buy into the story that mankind took millions of years to evolve, then yes, it was suddenly. Naw. Look how far we've come since the time of Jesus. It's been 2000 years and our society has changed so much. The 4000 or so years in between the advent of agriculture and the development of the first civilizations is not so short.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Aug 10, 2017 5:35:29 GMT
If you buy into the story that mankind took millions of years to evolve, then yes, it was suddenly. Naw. Look how far we've come since the time of Jesus. It's been 2000 years and our society has changed so much. The 4000 or so years in between the advent of agriculture and the development of the first civilizations is not so short. Yes, our society has changed much, and not for the better.
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Post by yougotastewgoinbaby on Aug 10, 2017 6:20:41 GMT
Naw. Look how far we've come since the time of Jesus. It's been 2000 years and our society has changed so much. The 4000 or so years in between the advent of agriculture and the development of the first civilizations is not so short. Yes, our society has changed much, and not for the better. K, but it has changed drastically in a shorter amount of time than the gap of time between the advent of agriculture and the first (known) civilizations. So why would you conclude that aliens/annanuki/nibiru have anything to do with it?
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Aug 10, 2017 6:28:29 GMT
Yes, our society has changed much, and not for the better. K, but it has changed drastically in a shorter amount of time than the gap of time between the advent of agriculture and the first (known) civilizations. So why would you conclude that aliens/annanuki/nibiru have anything to do with it? How would you (or anyone else) know when the advent of agriculture was?
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Post by yougotastewgoinbaby on Aug 10, 2017 6:52:29 GMT
K, but it has changed drastically in a shorter amount of time than the gap of time between the advent of agriculture and the first (known) civilizations. So why would you conclude that aliens/annanuki/nibiru have anything to do with it? How would you (or anyone else) know when the advent of agriculture was? At neolithic sites across the middle east (10,000 - 7,000 BC), archeologists find wheat, flax, chickpeas, and other shit like that. Also, the remains of domesticated animals can be found at these sites. Archeological sites in Mexico dating back to 6,000 BC have maize, which was cultivated from the teosinte plant. In Peru potatoes, tomatoes and other crops were cultivated between 8,000 - 5,000 BC. All of these remains can be found at neolithic archeological sites, and radiometric dating techniques can be used to determine the age.
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Post by theoncomingstorm on Aug 10, 2017 7:33:05 GMT
How would you (or anyone else) know when the advent of agriculture was? At neolithic sites across the middle east (10,000 - 7,000 BC), archeologists find wheat, flax, chickpeas, and other shit like that. Also, the remains of domesticated animals can be found at these sites. Archeological sites in Mexico dating back to 6,000 BC have maize, which was cultivated from the teosinte plant. In Peru potatoes, tomatoes and other crops were cultivated between 8,000 - 5,000 BC. All of these remains can be found at neolithic archeological sites, and radiometric dating techniques can be used to determine the age. ^Gangster science!
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Post by theoncomingstorm on Aug 10, 2017 7:33:40 GMT
K, but it has changed drastically in a shorter amount of time than the gap of time between the advent of agriculture and the first (known) civilizations. So why would you conclude that aliens/annanuki/nibiru have anything to do with it? How would you (or anyone else) know when the advent of agriculture was? Damn, you're an imbecile.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Aug 10, 2017 16:02:50 GMT
Damn, you're an imbecile. Damn, you're a pig. What other boards do you ever post on besides this one?
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Aug 10, 2017 16:04:50 GMT
How would you (or anyone else) know when the advent of agriculture was? At neolithic sites across the middle east (10,000 - 7,000 BC), archeologists find wheat, flax, chickpeas, and other shit like that. Also, the remains of domesticated animals can be found at these sites. Archeological sites in Mexico dating back to 6,000 BC have maize, which was cultivated from the teosinte plant. In Peru potatoes, tomatoes and other crops were cultivated between 8,000 - 5,000 BC. All of these remains can be found at neolithic archeological sites, and radiometric dating techniques can be used to determine the age. That's quite a leap in progress after millions and millions and millions of years of slow evolution. Wow.
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Post by Cinemachinery on Aug 10, 2017 20:34:07 GMT
K, but it has changed drastically in a shorter amount of time than the gap of time between the advent of agriculture and the first (known) civilizations. So why would you conclude that aliens/annanuki/nibiru have anything to do with it? How would you (or anyone else) know when the advent of agriculture was? genographic.nationalgeographic.com/development-of-agriculture/
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Post by Cinemachinery on Aug 10, 2017 20:37:15 GMT
At neolithic sites across the middle east (10,000 - 7,000 BC), archeologists find wheat, flax, chickpeas, and other shit like that. Also, the remains of domesticated animals can be found at these sites. Archeological sites in Mexico dating back to 6,000 BC have maize, which was cultivated from the teosinte plant. In Peru potatoes, tomatoes and other crops were cultivated between 8,000 - 5,000 BC. All of these remains can be found at neolithic archeological sites, and radiometric dating techniques can be used to determine the age. That's quite a leap in progress after millions and millions and millions of years of slow evolution. Wow. How did you go from the development of tools then agriculture to "evolution"?
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Post by Edward-Elizabeth-Hitler on Aug 10, 2017 20:37:50 GMT
Your "girlfriend" hasn't defended you on this one. Did you advise her to stay away?
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Post by OldSamVimes on Aug 10, 2017 21:26:04 GMT
At neolithic sites across the middle east (10,000 - 7,000 BC), archeologists find wheat, flax, chickpeas, and other shit like that. Also, the remains of domesticated animals can be found at these sites. Archeological sites in Mexico dating back to 6,000 BC have maize, which was cultivated from the teosinte plant. In Peru potatoes, tomatoes and other crops were cultivated between 8,000 - 5,000 BC. All of these remains can be found at neolithic archeological sites, and radiometric dating techniques can be used to determine the age. That's quite a leap in progress after millions and millions and millions of years of slow evolution. Wow. There is a theory that when human beings discovered psychoactive plants it was the catalyst that spurred us to higher consciousness. Shamans.
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