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Post by geode on Aug 7, 2017 13:50:42 GMT
Back in the early 60s I saw a TV episode in which two men meet each other in a bar in Honolulu. One of the talks about the attack on Pearl Harbor. The second man enters the bar the next day, or something like that and sees the other man's picture in a photograph on the wall. He asks the bar tender who the guy is and is told his name, and that he died during the attack on December 7, 1941 some 20 years earlier.
I thought it was from an anthology series such as "One Step Beyond" but the premise does not fit any of the plot descriptions. Any ideas what series this was in?
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Aug 7, 2017 15:35:48 GMT
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Post by ironjade on Aug 7, 2017 18:30:03 GMT
Definitely "The Time Element".
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Post by geode on Aug 7, 2017 19:28:12 GMT
At first glance I had doubts, since I thought I would have remembered William Bendix as I used to watch him in "The Life of Riley" back in the 50s and the air date of November, 1958 seemed too early. I guess it is possible that I saw it then, unless this was re-run in the early 60s. Decades ago I had thought it might be a "Twilight Zone" episode, but I had the entire series and it was not one of them. Then I aimed at "One Step Beyond" but ruled that out. I would have recognized Martin Balsam and Jessie White by the late 60s, but I would have picked out Joe DeRita after 1959 and "Have Rocket Will Travel"...But considering the time that has past I am not surprised I could remember a lot of it poorly, especially since it appears I probably saw it in 1958. So this was written by Rod Serling, and has comic touches. I didn't remember that. The time travel element fits in with his sort of thing. I watched it and it seemed familiar, but not a slam dunk fit until the scene at the bar at the end. That was pretty much exactly as in my memory. Time ElementThank you for solving this puzzle I have had for many, many years.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Aug 8, 2017 4:57:21 GMT
At first glance I had doubts, since I thought I would have remembered William Bendix as I used to watch him in "The Life of Riley" back in the 50s and the air date of November, 1958 seemed too early. I guess it is possible that I saw it then, unless this was re-run in the early 60s. Decades ago I had thought it might be a "Twilight Zone" episode, but I had the entire series and it was not one of them. Then I aimed at "One Step Beyond" but ruled that out. I would have recognized Martin Balsam and Jessie White by the late 60s, but I would have picked out Joe DeRita after 1959 and "Have Rocket Will Travel"...But considering the time that has past I am not surprised I could remember a lot of it poorly, especially since it appears I probably saw it in 1958. So this was written by Rod Serling, and has comic touches. I didn't remember that. The time travel element fits in with his sort of thing. I watched it and it seemed familiar, but not a slam dunk fit until the scene at the bar at the end. That was pretty much exactly as in my memory. Time ElementThank you for solving this puzzle I have had for many, many years. You are welcome. I've never seen it, but I have a copy of The Twilight Zone Companion, and there was a blurb about Time Element at the beginning of the book.
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Post by geode on Aug 8, 2017 5:06:48 GMT
At first glance I had doubts, since I thought I would have remembered William Bendix as I used to watch him in "The Life of Riley" back in the 50s and the air date of November, 1958 seemed too early. I guess it is possible that I saw it then, unless this was re-run in the early 60s. Decades ago I had thought it might be a "Twilight Zone" episode, but I had the entire series and it was not one of them. Then I aimed at "One Step Beyond" but ruled that out. I would have recognized Martin Balsam and Jessie White by the late 60s, but I would have picked out Joe DeRita after 1959 and "Have Rocket Will Travel"...But considering the time that has past I am not surprised I could remember a lot of it poorly, especially since it appears I probably saw it in 1958. So this was written by Rod Serling, and has comic touches. I didn't remember that. The time travel element fits in with his sort of thing. I watched it and it seemed familiar, but not a slam dunk fit until the scene at the bar at the end. That was pretty much exactly as in my memory. Time ElementThank you for solving this puzzle I have had for many, many years. You are welcome. I've never seen it, but I have a copy of The Twilight Zone Companion, and there was a blurb about Time Element at the beginning of the book. The sad thing is that in reading about this show online I now find that I have had an HD copy of this for several years as it was included as an extra in the blu-ray first season package of "The Twilight Zone" but I discovered this after watching that youtube version I linked. That was sourced from a VHS tape from a TV Land showing. That same source claims that it never aired again after 1958 until the 1990s, so apparently I saw it almost 59 years ago. No wonder I had forgotten a lot of it. But I guess it is a testament to Serling that I remembered it as well as I did for so long. My family was in the habit of watching this Desilu show as it frequently was a continuation of "I love Lucy" with the same characters. So it is logical that I would have seen it when it showed in 1958.
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Post by geode on Aug 12, 2017 7:51:04 GMT
At first glance I had doubts, since I thought I would have remembered William Bendix as I used to watch him in "The Life of Riley" back in the 50s and the air date of November, 1958 seemed too early. I guess it is possible that I saw it then, unless this was re-run in the early 60s. Decades ago I had thought it might be a "Twilight Zone" episode, but I had the entire series and it was not one of them. Then I aimed at "One Step Beyond" but ruled that out. I would have recognized Martin Balsam and Jessie White by the late 60s, but I would have picked out Joe DeRita after 1959 and "Have Rocket Will Travel"...But considering the time that has past I am not surprised I could remember a lot of it poorly, especially since it appears I probably saw it in 1958. So this was written by Rod Serling, and has comic touches. I didn't remember that. The time travel element fits in with his sort of thing. I watched it and it seemed familiar, but not a slam dunk fit until the scene at the bar at the end. That was pretty much exactly as in my memory. Time ElementThank you for solving this puzzle I have had for many, many years. You are welcome. I've never seen it, but I have a copy of The Twilight Zone Companion, and there was a blurb about Time Element at the beginning of the book. The author of that book does an audio commentary running under the show on the blu-ray explaining background. The transfer is from 35mm and very sharp. It is a network version with all ads and Desi Arnez intro and exit comments. Apparently one reviewer in 1958 was ticked at Desi giving his own explanation of what has happened in the show.
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