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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2017 14:39:01 GMT
The Bible tells children to always obey their parents. What about if my parents tell me to commit a sin like steal or kill someone? Do I have to obey them and do it?
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Post by general313 on Aug 8, 2017 14:51:16 GMT
Always obey the Bible except where it contradicts itself, is in a deprecated section (results may vary according to your denomination), or is too inconvenient.
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Post by Isapop on Aug 8, 2017 15:09:58 GMT
The Bible tells children to always obey their parents. What about if my parents tell me to commit a sin like steal or kill someone? Do I have to obey them and do it? Of course you must. And if you get caught, remember to keep your mouth shut. The Lord thy God hates a rat (Isaiah 66:17). |
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Post by Terrapin Station on Aug 8, 2017 15:16:45 GMT
Kids should be taught to question/challenge authority, including their parents. If anything should be a sin, it's trying to condition people to merely obey.
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Aug 8, 2017 17:44:55 GMT
The Bible tells children to always obey their parents. What about if my parents tell me to commit a sin like steal or kill someone? Do I have to obey them and do it? No it doesn't.
The instructions are only for those who follow all aspects of God's standards, so a child is under no obligation to follow a parent that tells them to do something contrary to God's view.
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Post by captainbryce on Aug 8, 2017 22:05:53 GMT
The Bible tells children to always obey their parents. What about if my parents tell me to commit a sin like steal or kill someone? Do I have to obey them and do it? No it doesn't.
The instructions are only for those who follow all aspects of God's standards, so a child is under no obligation to follow a parent that tells them to do something contrary to God's view.
Exodus 20:12 “Honor your father and your mother, so that you may live long in the land the Lord your God is giving you. Ephesians 6:1-3 Children, obey your parents in the Lord, for this is right. “Honor your father and mother”—which is the first commandment with a promise— “so that it may go well with you and that you may enjoy long life on the earth.” Colossians 3:20 Children, obey your parents in everything, for this pleases the Lord. I don't see any stipulations about what type of parents you have, or under what circumstances it's okay to dishonor them. |
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Aug 9, 2017 0:25:02 GMT
No it doesn't.
The instructions are only for those who follow all aspects of God's standards, so a child is under no obligation to follow a parent that tells them to do something contrary to God's view.
Exodus 20:12 “Honor your father and your mother, so that you may live long in the land the Lord your God is giving you. Ephesians 6:1-3 Children, obey your parents in the Lord, for this is right. “Honor your father and mother”—which is the first commandment with a promise— “so that it may go well with you and that you may enjoy long life on the earth.” Colossians 3:20 Children, obey your parents in everything, for this pleases the Lord. I don't see any stipulations about what type of parents you have, or under what circumstances it's okay to dishonor them. Who is the audience for those verses? It seems like you are trying to prove me right but I can't tell |
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Aug 9, 2017 0:37:49 GMT
The Bible tells children to always obey their parents. What about if my parents tell me to commit a sin like steal or kill someone? Do I have to obey them and do it? Its an interesting question when you stop to really think it out. I assume by children you mean little kids and not adult children of elderly parents. Little kids I assume would be free of true sin in the eyes of god. My guess would be that god would apply the sin to the parent seeing as how they are the manipulators in the scenario.
But as far as obeying, it may not say so but I would assume that it means "within reason". I don't think it means "even unto killing and stealing and raping". The parent giving such an order would be seen as not being with god any longer.
And, adult children have to be judged on their own merits as adults and not by their parents.
But the whole thing is academic since the Bible is science fiction. You might as well ask me what Orc parents ask their children to do in Mordor. LOL! Oh no he didn't!
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Post by camimac on Aug 9, 2017 1:42:38 GMT
The bible states, "Children obey your parents in the Lord, for this is right." The key phrase is "parents in the Lord." If the parents are living a godly life, there should not be any problem in the children obeying them. They won't be telling the child to steal or murder someone.
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Post by Karl Aksel on Aug 9, 2017 6:08:22 GMT
The bible states, "Children obey your parents in the Lord, for this is right." The key phrase is "parents in the Lord." If the parents are living a godly life, there should not be any problem in the children obeying them. They won't be telling the child to steal or murder someone. It's not "parents in the lord", it's "obey ... in the Lord". That is, "obey your parents as the Lord commands". |
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Post by Arlon10 on Aug 9, 2017 8:27:46 GMT
Always obey the Bible except where it contradicts itself, is in a deprecated section (results may vary according to your denomination), or is too inconvenient. The Bible does not dictate specific actions for your specific situations. It was never intended to be used in place of religious leadership. It was never intended to replace fellowship with a religious congregation. It was never intended to be interpreted by the untrained or inexperienced without help from the congregation and leaders. If you are certain that your parents are violating God's laws then you probably should not follow their lead on that particular point. If you are not certain then you should follow your parents. It seems so much like common sense to me. |
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Aug 9, 2017 11:12:09 GMT
The bible states, "Children obey your parents in the Lord, for this is right." The key phrase is "parents in the Lord." If the parents are living a godly life, there should not be any problem in the children obeying them. They won't be telling the child to steal or murder someone. It's not "parents in the lord", it's "obey ... in the Lord". That is, "obey your parents as the Lord commands". Again, this is only partially accurate. The verse is ONLY talking to Christians. The very first verse of Ephesians tells who the letter is for: The verse in context is part of a litany of things Christian households need to do to be good Christians. There is nothing in the verse that suggests children obey carte blanche. In fact, that would defeat the purpose of the Christian ministry. |
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Post by OldSamVimes on Aug 9, 2017 11:21:58 GMT
The Bible tells children to always obey their parents. What about if my parents tell me to commit a sin like steal or kill someone? Do I have to obey them and do it? Everything in the Bible is open to interpretation. As long as you're not hurting others, do whatever the hell you want. |
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Post by general313 on Aug 9, 2017 15:01:07 GMT
Always obey the Bible except where it contradicts itself, is in a deprecated section (results may vary according to your denomination), or is too inconvenient. The Bible does not dictate specific actions for your specific situations. It was never intended to be used in place of religious leadership. It was never intended to replace fellowship with a religious congregation. It was never intended to be interpreted by the untrained or inexperienced without help from the congregation and leaders. If you are certain that your parents are violating God's laws then you probably should not follow their lead on that particular point. If you are not certain then you should follow your parents. It seems so much like common sense to me. I guess I need to work on my expression of irony. Maybe I should use more emoticons. In any case, the author(s) of the Torah probably had very different intentions than St. Paul. |
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Post by captainbryce on Aug 9, 2017 17:45:33 GMT
Exodus 20:12 “Honor your father and your mother, so that you may live long in the land the Lord your God is giving you. Ephesians 6:1-3 Children, obey your parents in the Lord, for this is right. “Honor your father and mother”—which is the first commandment with a promise— “so that it may go well with you and that you may enjoy long life on the earth.” Colossians 3:20 Children, obey your parents in everything, for this pleases the Lord. I don't see any stipulations about what type of parents you have, or under what circumstances it's okay to dishonor them. Who is the audience for those verses? The Jews, the Ephesians, and the Colossians. Your point?  For clarification purposes, I'm not. |
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Post by captainbryce on Aug 9, 2017 17:50:59 GMT
The bible states, "Children obey your parents in the Lord, for this is right." The key phrase is "parents in the Lord." If the parents are living a godly life, there should not be any problem in the children obeying them. They won't be telling the child to steal or murder someone. Uh, no...actually the "in the Lord" in that verse is applicable to the children, not necessarily the parents. You are quoting that out of context. Its "obey...in the Lord", not "parents in the Lord". It's another way of saying because YOU are a Christian, obey your parents, because this is the expectation of you as a Christian. It has nothing to do with how your parents treat you or whether they are Christian or not, and it's certainly not giving children the option to disobey. Children, be obedient to your parents as a Christian duty, for it is a duty. (Weymouth) Children, obey your parents because you are Christians. This is the right thing to do. (God's Word) Children, obey your parents as you would the Lord, because this is right. (Holman) Children, obey your parents because you belong to the Lord, for this is the right thing to do. (NLT) |
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Post by Arlon10 on Aug 9, 2017 22:33:59 GMT
The Bible does not dictate specific actions for your specific situations. It was never intended to be used in place of religious leadership. It was never intended to replace fellowship with a religious congregation. It was never intended to be interpreted by the untrained or inexperienced without help from the congregation and leaders. If you are certain that your parents are violating God's laws then you probably should not follow their lead on that particular point. If you are not certain then you should follow your parents. It seems so much like common sense to me. I guess I need to work on my expression of irony. Maybe I should use more emoticons. In any case, the author(s) of the Torah probably had very different intentions than St. Paul. Perhaps you noticed I was not exactly disagreeing with you. I was not. I have a different perspective though. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2017 22:35:51 GMT
If you are under 18 than yes. If you are over 18 than no.
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Post by rachelcarson1953 on Aug 9, 2017 23:19:54 GMT
The Bible does not dictate specific actions for your specific situations. It was never intended to be used in place of religious leadership. It was never intended to replace fellowship with a religious congregation. It was never intended to be interpreted by the untrained or inexperienced without help from the congregation and leaders. If you are certain that your parents are violating God's laws then you probably should not follow their lead on that particular point. If you are not certain then you should follow your parents. It seems so much like common sense to me. I guess I need to work on my expression of irony. Maybe I should use more emoticons. In any case, the author(s) of the Torah probably had very different intentions than St. Paul. Your expression of irony is just fine, just not understood by someone who doesn't want to acknowledge the irony.  |
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Post by camimac on Aug 9, 2017 23:52:05 GMT
The bible states, "Children obey your parents in the Lord, for this is right." The key phrase is "parents in the Lord." If the parents are living a godly life, there should not be any problem in the children obeying them. They won't be telling the child to steal or murder someone. Uh, no...actually the "in the Lord" in that verse is applicable to the children, not necessarily the parents. You are quoting that out of context. Its "obey...in the Lord", not "parents in the Lord". It's another way of saying because YOU are a Christian, obey your parents, because this is the expectation of you as a Christian. It has nothing to do with how your parents treat you or whether they are Christian or not, and it's certainly not giving children the option to disobey. Children, be obedient to your parents as a Christian duty, for it is a duty. (Weymouth) Children, obey your parents because you are Christians. This is the right thing to do. (God's Word) Children, obey your parents as you would the Lord, because this is right. (Holman) Children, obey your parents because you belong to the Lord, for this is the right thing to do. (NLT) @@ (yep, I'm rolling my eyes at you.) |
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