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Post by taylorfirst1 on Aug 23, 2017 19:55:49 GMT
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Post by agentblue on Aug 23, 2017 20:26:17 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2017 20:33:42 GMT
Wow. For a few months there it looked like the DCEU might begetting its act together, but WB's just said "Fuck it, we're out." I look forward to all the DCEU fan's meltdowns over this.
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Post by poelzig on Aug 23, 2017 20:41:06 GMT
That site had several videos running simultaneously so I didn't bother reading the story. I hate when videos start automatically especially when you can't find where the damn video is located.
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Post by primeone on Aug 23, 2017 20:44:46 GMT
This is starting to get confusing. I do have a feeling that Matt Reeves meant he just wants to do his version off Batman without adding any kind of JL members and set ups for anything DCEU besides a Batman set up. Which means I think this will still be part of the DCEU.
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Aug 23, 2017 20:58:43 GMT
That site had several videos running simultaneously so I didn't bother reading the story. I hate when videos start automatically especially when you can't find where the damn video is located. Thank you. I agree completely with that post. |
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Post by justanaveragejoe on Aug 23, 2017 21:20:44 GMT
The fuck? I thought WB might've found a way to make good CBMs again with Wonder Woman and bring quality films to the DCEU, but now, I'm sure the heads at WB are like this right now:  |
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Post by DC-Fan on Aug 23, 2017 21:53:17 GMT
What Reeves is saying is his Batman movie wont be a shitty movie like Spider-Man: Homecoming, where Tony Stark is in the beginning, middle, and end of the movie, Iron Man rescues Spider-Man when Vulture dumps him in the water, Iron Man comes to the rescue on the ferry boat, Spider-Man uses AI-type suits given to him by Tony Stark rather than using his Spider-Sense, and Spider-Man basically becomes a supporting character in his own movie.
Instead, the Batman movie will be more like Wonder Woman, a stand-alone movie that doesn't have to rely on cameos from characters in other movies but is still a part of the DCEU. |
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Post by thisguy4000 on Aug 23, 2017 22:00:03 GMT
I get the feeling that's probably NOT what he meant to say.
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Post by ThatGuy on Aug 23, 2017 22:27:56 GMT
What Reeves is saying is his Batman movie wont be a shitty movie like Spider-Man: Homecoming, where Tony Stark is in the beginning, middle, and end of the movie, Iron Man rescues Spider-Man when Vulture dumps him in the water, Iron Man comes to the rescue on the ferry boat, Spider-Man uses AI-type suits given to him by Tony Stark rather than using his Spider-Sense, and Spider-Man basically becomes a supporting character in his own movie.
Instead, the Batman movie will be more like Wonder Woman, a stand-alone movie that doesn't have to rely on cameos from characters in other movies but is still a part of the DCEU. You do know that being a part of cinematic universe means that other characters will appear in the title character's movie, right? I remember there was a Superman sequel that they shoehorned Batman and Wonder Woman into. Hell, I'd even say that Batman was the star of that Superman sequel. And... got his name before the supposed main character's name. Why not Superman v Batman? |
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Post by DC-Fan on Aug 23, 2017 22:35:33 GMT
What Reeves is saying is his Batman movie wont be a shitty movie like Spider-Man: Homecoming, where Tony Stark is in the beginning, middle, and end of the movie, Iron Man rescues Spider-Man when Vulture dumps him in the water, Iron Man comes to the rescue on the ferry boat, Spider-Man uses AI-type suits given to him by Tony Stark rather than using his Spider-Sense, and Spider-Man basically becomes a supporting character in his own movie.
Instead, the Batman movie will be more like Wonder Woman, a stand-alone movie that doesn't have to rely on cameos from characters in other movies but is still a part of the DCEU. You do know that being a part of cinematic universe means that other characters will appear in the title character's movie, right? I remember there was a Superman sequel that they shoehorned Batman and Wonder Woman into. Hell, I'd even say that Batman was the star of that Superman sequel. And... got his name before the supposed main character's name. Why not Superman v Batman? BvS was another DCEU movie, but wasn't a sequel to MoS (just like SS and WW weren't sequels to MoS). If BvS was a sequel to MoS, then the next Superman movie would be titled MoS 3. But the next Superman movie is going to be titled MoS 2, so BvS wasn't a sequel to MoS.
As for other characters appearing in the title character's movie, the title of Spider-Man: Homecoming doesn't have Iron Man in the title, yet Tony Stark is the main character in SMH, appearing in the beginning, middle, and end of the movie, rescuing Spider-Man after Vulture dumps him into the water, coming to the rescue again on the ferry boat, and giving Peter AI suits to use; while Spider-Man basically becomes a supporting character in his own movie.
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Post by ThatGuy on Aug 23, 2017 22:37:41 GMT
I think they are trying the X-men approach now. Just make movies that are loosely connected and not care if the continuity is crap. |
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Post by ThatGuy on Aug 23, 2017 22:41:21 GMT
You do know that being a part of cinematic universe means that other characters will appear in the title character's movie, right? I remember there was a Superman sequel that they shoehorned Batman and Wonder Woman into. Hell, I'd even say that Batman was the star of that Superman sequel. And... got his name before the supposed main character's name. Why not Superman v Batman? BvS was another DCEU movie, but wasn't a sequel to MoS (just like SS and WW weren't sequels to MoS). If BvS was a sequel to MoS, then the next Superman movie would be titled MoS 3. But the next Superman movie is going to be titled MoS 2, so BvS wasn't a sequel to MoS.
As for other characters appearing in the title character's movie, the title of Spider-Man: Homecoming doesn't have Iron Man in the title, yet Tony Stark is the main character in SMH, appearing in the beginning, middle, and end of the movie, rescuing Spider-Man after Vulture dumps him into the water, coming to the rescue again on the ferry boat, and giving Peter AI suits to use; while Spider-Man basically becomes a supporting character in his own movie.
They are all sequels of Man of Steel. Just like all of the MCU are sequels of Iron Man. BvS is just the 1st direct sequel to MoS. The next "solo" Superman movie will not be called Man of Steel*. Just like there is no Batman Begins 2. *If there is going to be another solo Superman movie. |
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Post by DC-Fan on Aug 23, 2017 22:48:23 GMT
BvS was another DCEU movie, but wasn't a sequel to MoS (just like SS and WW weren't sequels to MoS). If BvS was a sequel to MoS, then the next Superman movie would be titled MoS 3. But the next Superman movie is going to be titled MoS 2, so BvS wasn't a sequel to MoS.
As for other characters appearing in the title character's movie, the title of Spider-Man: Homecoming doesn't have Iron Man in the title, yet Tony Stark is the main character in SMH, appearing in the beginning, middle, and end of the movie, rescuing Spider-Man after Vulture dumps him into the water, coming to the rescue again on the ferry boat, and giving Peter AI suits to use; while Spider-Man basically becomes a supporting character in his own movie.
They are all sequels of Man of Steel. Just like all of the MCU are sequels of Iron Man. No, if they were all sequels of Iron Man, then Iron Man 2 (which came after The Incredible Hulk) would've been called Iron Man 3 instead of Iron Man 2. The Incredible Hulk as another MCU movie but wasn't a sequel to Iron Man, which is why Iron Man 2 is called Iron Man 2 instead of Iron Man 3.
Similarly, BvS, SS, and WW are movies in DCEU but not sequels to MoS, which is why the next Superman movie is going to be called MoS and not MoS 3.
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Post by sdrew13163 on Aug 23, 2017 22:51:50 GMT
Yeah, okay.
I don't know what the hell is going on anymore.
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Aug 23, 2017 23:06:11 GMT
Kinda ballsy at this point.
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Aug 23, 2017 23:09:00 GMT
They are all sequels of Man of Steel. Just like all of the MCU are sequels of Iron Man. No, if they were all sequels of Iron Man, then Iron Man 2 (which came after The Incredible Hulk) would've been called Iron Man 3 instead of Iron Man 2. The Incredible Hulk as another MCU movie but wasn't a sequel to Iron Man, which is why Iron Man 2 is called Iron Man 2 instead of Iron Man 3.
Similarly, BvS, SS, and WW are movies in DCEU but not sequels to MoS, which is why the next Superman movie is going to be called MoS and not MoS 3.
Zack Snyder actually called BvS Man of Steel 2 like. |
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Post by agentblue on Aug 23, 2017 23:32:20 GMT
Wow. For a few months there it looked like the DCEU might begetting its act together, but WB's just said "Fuck it, we're out." I look forward to all the DCEU fan's meltdowns over this. Yeah I have kind of lost faith in them now, for awhile there it looked like they were getting on track but just like my dad they have to do the exact opposite of what everyone is thinking. |
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Post by ThatGuy on Aug 23, 2017 23:48:47 GMT
They are all sequels of Man of Steel. Just like all of the MCU are sequels of Iron Man. No, if they were all sequels of Iron Man, then Iron Man 2 (which came after The Incredible Hulk) would've been called Iron Man 3 instead of Iron Man 2. The Incredible Hulk as another MCU movie but wasn't a sequel to Iron Man, which is why Iron Man 2 is called Iron Man 2 instead of Iron Man 3.
Similarly, BvS, SS, and WW are movies in DCEU but not sequels to MoS, which is why the next Superman movie is going to be called MoS and not MoS 3.
You see that's why people don't get what a cinematic universe is and how to do it wrong. You think of them as individual franchises that link up when that is not the case. The MCU and the DCEU (supposedly) is the franchise. Iron Man and Man of Steel started their respective universes so every movie after it is a sequel to that movie. Calling it Incredible Hulk is because he is the point of view character for that movie. Iron Man 2 is because he is the point of view character for a second time. Just like even though Civil War had the Avengers in it, Captain America was the point of view character. The Avengers were collectively the point of view character. BvS had both Batman and Superman as the PoV. Suicide Squad had no one as the PoV. And yes BvS, Suicide Squad and Wonder Woman were sequels to MoS. They all continued stories from those movies. Both BvS and Suicide Squad stemmed off of MoS. BvS was a direct continuation from MoS and Suicide Squad was created because of Superman showing himself and battling Zod in Metropolis and Waller wanted to control that (a super being). And Wonder Woman was a flash-backed continuation from BvS. Now if the movies merely took place in the DCEU and didn't have any ties (story-wise) to the movie previous to it then you can say it isn't a sequel. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2017 23:50:22 GMT
Wow. For a few months there it looked like the DCEU might begetting its act together, but WB's just said "Fuck it, we're out." I look forward to all the DCEU fan's meltdowns over this. Yeah I have kind of lost faith in them now, for awhile there it looked like they were getting on track but just like my dad they have to do the exact opposite of what everyone is thinking. This unfortunately mrans Justice League REALLY failed to impress. They might just want to scrap the movie and let Joss Whedon start it over completely. |
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