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Post by seahawksraawk00 on Aug 25, 2017 5:49:50 GMT
A little harsh, but I think a fair point. I think he is being a little harsh and is a bit misguided himself. Sure Wonder Woman is an objectified icon. I mean the original concept behind her character was based on bondage. But I think every female action hero is objectified to some extent, including Sarah Connor. I thought she was hot in Terminator 2. Fit and badass! What's not sexy about that? But even Sigourney Weaver as Ripley from the Alien films, Uma Thurman as the Bride in Kill Bill to modern female action heroes like Kate Beckinsale as Selene in the Underworld series and Emily Blunt in Edge of Tomorrow, even Scarlett Johansson as Black Widow. Sex sells, so filmmakers obviously aren't going to not objectify their female heroes to some extent. Some films are just better at being subtle about it. That said, I do understand where he's coming from with "step backwards" comment. There's certainly nothing wrong with having female superheros and Gal delivered a great performance that can be aspiring to young female audience to be strong and determined, but she is a superhero tho. I know Sarah Connor and Ripley and even the Bride are fictional, but they can aspire female audience on the same level but also more because they are human characters with struggles, and they're a bit more relatable than Wonder Woman is.
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Aug 25, 2017 14:54:19 GMT
Oh great, same thread 3 times, ample opportunity for me to repost. Cameron he is only partially right-…or wrong...from a certain point of view.
- WW may be a big step for the CBM genre, but it's only a tiny leap for the movie genre as a whole: Previously, there were no successful female-led and female-directed CMBs ever, they all flopped. So, WW and its reception is a milestone for CBMs. Cameron may have overlooked this aspect.
- But on a higher level strong female warriors are an ancient thing, it's rooted in all mythology (e.g. Greek or Norse or Asian). Hollywood did not invent that, it was always there. Cameron and his ilk just added nuances: Grounded semi-realistic female warrior characters like Leia in Star Wars (77), Ripley in Alien (79), or later Sarah Connor in Terminator or much later Furiosa in Mad Max. Wonder Woman is the more naive, mythological, idealized version of this type, modelled from the archetype of the beautiful warrior princess ( a la Brünhild).
- Thus, in this regard WW is actually a sort of back step with her perfect looks and superhuman strength. But it genuinely comes with the CBM territory and source material. This is fairy tale land for kids after all.
- Not to forget: great that this overpowered god-mode character was not written as a Mary Sue! Diana's abilities and rank flow from her character backgrounds and history. The story reality does not bend around her to glorify her: no WW must finally realize the world is not as simple as she thought and she must adapt (duality of human nature monologue). Despite her status as demi-goddess she can be petty and self-righteous, she makes mistakes and is naive and learns, she loses and fails terribly and must fight for things, she is not awarded with everything (missions, attention, status, items etc) automatically. Pretty solid writing that!
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