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Post by Nora on Aug 27, 2017 18:25:28 GMT
I admit its maybe my pet-peeve or something like that. But I will go out of my way to avoid spoilers. Like really out of my way. It includes not reading reviews before I go see a movie (many reviewers SADLY spoil the movie or its good parts for the audience).
The most difficult ones are when you wait for a whole season of something to be out (I love binge watching, cant stand waiting weeks in between episodes) and everyone else is watching it week per episode and then the whole internet talks about it and makes memes out of it and you have to be really disciplined AND have a lot of luck not to run into spoilers.
I have endured hell because of this both when I was in the process of watching Breaking Bad or any season of Better Caul Saul, or Homeland or Sherlock. But I really do what I can to avoid even the tiniest spoilers. And am really careful in my reviews and always hide problematic text that could be seen as including spoilers.
And often have debates with friends on "but its a day/week/month old news I am allowed spoil now" where we don't agree on how much time has to pass before "its ok".
So - when can someone openly talk about an important part/twist/reveal in a movie so it is not considered an "evil spoil"? (anything that reveals important plot points or great scenes too early after a release of a movie is and evil spoil in my book).
My proposal for timelines to follow would be:
1. while the season is still running its first run on tv (no matter how many episodes in vs left) and
2. until a month after the DVD is out for movies with theatrical runs or
3. 3 months after a movie or season drops on Netflix/tv.
But I may be too strict. What do you think?
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Post by Terrapin Station on Aug 27, 2017 18:27:53 GMT
In my view no amount of time makes it okay. There are always people who haven't seen something yet, including younger generations.
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Post by DC-Fan on Aug 27, 2017 22:01:56 GMT
I admit its maybe my pet-peeve or something like that. But I will go out of my way to avoid spoilers. Like really out of my way. It includes not reading reviews before I go see a movie (many reviewers SADLY spoil the movie or its good parts for the audience). The most difficult ones are when you wait for a whole season of something to be out (I love binge watching, cant stand waiting weeks in between episodes) and everyone else is watching it week per episode and then the whole internet talks about it and makes memes out of it and you have to be really disciplined AND have a lot of luck not to run into spoilers. I have endured hell because of this both when I was in the process of watching Breaking Bad or any season of Better Caul Saul, or Homeland or Sherlock. But I really do what I can to avoid even the tiniest spoilers. And am really careful in my reviews and always hide problematic text that could be seen as including spoilers. And often have debates with friends on "but its a day/week/month old news I am allowed spoil now" where we don't agree on how much time has to pass before "its ok". So - when can someone openly talk about an important part/twist/reveal in a movie so it is not considered an "evil spoil"? (anything that reveals important plot points or great scenes too early after a release of a movie is and evil spoil in my book). My proposal for timelines to follow would be: 1. while the season is still running its first run on tv (no matter how many episodes in vs left) and 2. until a month after the DVD is out for movies with theatrical runs or 3. 3 months after a movie or season drops on Netflix/tv. But I may be too strict. What do you think? If a movie hasn't been released in theaters yet, but you've saw an advanced or early screening of the movie, then you shouldn't post details about the plot. But once the movie is released, you can post details about the plot starting on the Friday that it's released. For people who don't go to the theater to see the movie on the Friday that it's released, the onus is on them to stay off social media or entertainment news sites that may have spoilers until they see the movie.
Similarly, for TV shows, once an episode is broadcast on TV for the 1st time, then you can post details about the plot of the episode. And for people who don't watch the episode when it's broadcast on TV for the 1st time, the onus is on them to stay off social media or entertainment news sites that may have spoilers until they see the episode.
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Post by barkingbaphomet on Aug 27, 2017 22:05:06 GMT
In my view no amount of time makes it okay. There are always people who haven't seen something yet, including younger generations. i'm with this but i realize it is a minority view. |
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Post by BATouttaheck on Aug 27, 2017 22:12:04 GMT
Important plot twists. important plot points and ending of films ? NEVER !
Worked with a couple of "people" who saw films opening night and HAD to "discuss" in detail the whole movie. No amount of begging by the rest of the employees ever stopped them.
There is a Yahoo on the Classic Board who refuses to use the SPOILER tag for anything. Fortunately she most often watches cartoons and kid's films so she hasn't done MUCH harm. Let her loose on the likes of Witness for the Prosecution, Murder on the Orient Express or The Sixth Sense ?  and  yahoo |
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Post by Nora on Aug 28, 2017 3:35:37 GMT
If a movie hasn't been released in theaters yet, but you've saw an advanced or early screening of the movie, then you shouldn't post details about the plot. But once the movie is released, you can post details about the plot starting on the Friday that it's released. For people who don't go to the theater to see the movie on the Friday that it's released, the onus is on them to stay off social media or entertainment news sites that may have spoilers until they see the movie.
Similarly, for TV shows, once an episode is broadcast on TV for the 1st time, then you can post details about the plot of the episode. And for people who don't watch the episode when it's broadcast on TV for the 1st time, the onus is on them to stay off social media or entertainment news sites that may have spoilers until they see the episode.
wow thats SO early (in my world). I agree its on me to stay off social media and entertainment news. And I know that 2 years after BB finale it is completely up to me. BUT, its so hard to control it, like a week after it aired, you literally dont know where its going to hit you from. Its not only social media entertainment news. There was a good episode on HIMYM on this. how hard it is these days to avoid a spoiler. I was coming to work wearing a sign "have NOT seen the finale of XY yet, please thread lightly" :-) |
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Post by Nora on Aug 28, 2017 3:37:00 GMT
In my view no amount of time makes it okay. There are always people who haven't seen something yet, including younger generations. on one hand I agree, on the other hand there is something like a "reasonable expectation" factor one can take into account, when talking about movies that are A) notoriously well known and B) it has been years since they were released. but I certainly like "never" more than "the day it is released" |
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Post by Nora on Aug 28, 2017 3:38:05 GMT
Worked with a couple of "people" who saw films open ing night and HAD to "discuss" in detail the whole movie. No amount of begging by the rest of the employees ever stopped them.
and yahoo thats truly evil. |
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Post by Nora on Aug 28, 2017 3:38:48 GMT
In my view no amount of time makes it okay. There are always people who haven't seen something yet, including younger generations. i'm with this but i realize it is a minority view. maybe not. look at this thread, it actually seems you guys are in a majority… with me leaning toward your group more than the first day of release group. |
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Post by mslo79 on Aug 28, 2017 4:14:55 GMT
While i don't have any exact clear cut view on this type of stuff i figure if something is recently released in the theaters it should really go without saying that if your going to make a post on a movie it should be made clear that there are spoilers etc unless of course you make a spoiler free post. but if someone makes a posts and mentions spoilers there (i.e. "New Movie Name Here (2017) Review SPOILERS!" )... then i feel anyone who's posting in there has the right to post spoilers since it was made clear by the topic in the first place and anyone who don't want to know those things should obviously avoid that topic. but that aside... i think it's mostly on the person who don't want anything to be spoiled to avoid areas that could spoil things for them more than the general public catering to the person who don't want anything spoiled for the most part. but i think when it comes to TV shows... especially in the OP's case where they wait til the show is out in DVD or video etc to binge watch it your basically screwed unless you can somehow stay away from just about all places that could potentially spoil something for you. as for minor spoilers (like ones that might vaguely be considered a spoiler)... i am not too concerned here as it's not going to ruin my overall enjoyment of something as if something is quality, it's quality. spoiler or not. but obviously... knowing too much could potentially lower your initial enjoyment of something with that initial newness of not knowing what happens. but speaking for myself... i just try to feel the situation out as sometimes when i make random posts in these forums ill use spoiler tags and other times not. also, i think some movies or shows that are really popular... chances are if you have not seen them it won't be surprising if you run into some spoiler-ish things here and there out in the world. but some stuff i have no desire to see i don't really care if someone spoils it for me. That's out of line on their part. it's almost like they enjoy screwing other people over(?). those people i would think pretty low of if they are doing it without the slightest sign of respect for others. people like that are Two Thumbs Down. p.s. but with that said... at least for me, even if i know what generally happens prior to seeing a movie i always feel a quality movie is a quality movie and will be enjoyable regardless if you know what happens or not. but i can see how it could damage your initial viewing on some level though. barkingbaphometWhile i am not against that view, i don't think it's totally realistic to expect people to stick with that standard. because i feel for the most part... once a movie has been out in the theaters a while (or especially not long after it's out on video) then talking about it is going to happen with the general public and at that point it's at least partially on the person who don't want anything spoiled to avoid subjects on the movie they don't want to know anything about. but with that said... it would be nice if someone is going to make a post on a random movie, especially something recent, that they mention spoiler in the topic if needed when they are going to talk about important things on the movie. but then again... if your a person who's not seen the movie in the particular topic and don't want anything spoiled you almost have to assume the topic created will have at least some spoiler stuff and your best off avoiding it. |
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Post by twothousandonemark on Aug 28, 2017 4:18:57 GMT
A year or so.
Unless in dedicated conversation &/or online discussion about a specific film.
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Post by Nora on Aug 29, 2017 2:13:24 GMT
i think it's mostly on the person who don't want anything to be spoiled to avoid areas that could spoil things for them more than the general public catering to the person who don't want anything spoiled for the most part. but i think when it comes to TV shows... especially in the OP's case where they wait til the show is out in DVD or video etc to binge watch it your basically screwed unless you can somehow stay away from just about all places that could potentially spoil something for you. true that. its just hard sometimes as the information leaks into every day conversations, memes, and posts unrelated to the show at all. For example I have yet to see any Game of Thrones. BUT, no matter how hard I may try, at this point its practically impossible to live spoiler/free regarding GOT. That is if you live around people or interact with people. I certainly do not hold it against anyone, unless they do it intentionally. I just figure Ill give it another few years to forget it and then watch the whole thing. but overall I accept that I am, as you put it, basically screwed. |
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Post by Primemovermithrax Pejorative on Aug 29, 2017 2:16:34 GMT
There was a guy on Rotten Tomatoes message boards who put the surprises of 50 famous recent movies in the subject title.
Needless to say, he was not fondly regarded. lol
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Post by NewtJorden on Aug 29, 2017 2:48:05 GMT
In my view no amount of time makes it okay. There are always people who haven't seen something yet, including younger generations. Exactly this! |
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Post by Marv on Aug 29, 2017 3:02:47 GMT
A year or so. Once its been out for rent and on hbo and whatnot, its fair game. If you overhear spoilers at that point it your own fault for not seeing the film sooner.
Now deliberately spoiling something just to be a jerk is still being a jerk. But i wouldn't expect anyone to walk on eggshells once a film leaves theatres.
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Post by Nora on Aug 29, 2017 3:40:03 GMT
There was a guy on Rotten Tomatoes message boards who put the surprises of 50 famous recent movies in the subject title. Needless to say, he was not fondly regarded. lol I have a "friend" who actually enjoys doing this to people. He will watch out what they haven't seen and then given the chance he will intentionally spoil it for them. Including big things like "will Moriarty be or not be in season 4 of Sherlock" or "Will Heisenberg live or die at the end of BB". Spoiled one thing for me (intentionally) - will never trust the guy again. To me thats intentionally trying to cause some unhappiness to people. if he knows and does it on purpose. Real evil shit. |
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Post by sagenesse on Aug 29, 2017 4:17:59 GMT
In my view no amount of time makes it okay. There are always people who haven't seen something yet, including younger generations. I agree!!! When the Psycho remake came out I wanted see it. I had never seen it before but heard of it. I told my sister inlaw I was going to see it. She blurted out the ending and ruined it for me. I could have slappped her!!! |
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Post by Nora on Aug 29, 2017 4:40:17 GMT
In my view no amount of time makes it okay. There are always people who haven't seen something yet, including younger generations. I agree!!! When the Psycho remake came out I wanted see it. I had never seen it before but heard of it. I told my sister inlaw I was going to see it. She blurted out the ending and ruined it for me. I could have slappped her!!! watch Bates Motel. A) its a great show and B) they take a lot of liberties with the plot vs how it was originally…. so even if you have seen the movie/movies, you are in for some big surprises. |
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Post by BATouttaheck on Aug 29, 2017 14:19:29 GMT
Nora It's called SPOIL for a reason and some "people" get a kick out of ruining things for others. Trolls, hackers, smashers of mailboxes, petty thieves, random pinchers of bottoms. whisperers of lies... SPOILING a movie or a tv show just makes some warped or incredibly inconsiderate people happy. People came out of Star Wars talking LOUDLY about the Parentage Issue that had been a secret until then. They though it was funny to see the faces of the people waiting to get into the theater. Jerks can be found everywhere and, sadly, are impossible to avoid.
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Post by Nora on Aug 29, 2017 14:27:44 GMT
Nora It's called SPOIL for a reason and some "people" get a kick out of ruining things for others. Trolls, hackers, smashers of mailboxes, petty thieves, random pinchers of bottoms. whisperers of lies... SPOILING a movie or a tv show just makes some warped or incredibly inconsiderate people happy. People came out of Star Wars talking LOUDLY about the Parentage Issue that had been a secret until then. They though it was funny to see the faces of the people waiting to get into the theater. Jerks can be found everywhere and, sadly, are impossible to avoid. yeah, people leaving the cinema and loudly discussing twists are a nightmare too. even though some may not be doing it intentionally. I am familiar with the concept of evil people wanting to do evil shit to others. I guess I just miss "spoiler" on the list of felonies or at least misdemeanors. That would teach them. Spoil a movie intentionally for someone? Community service on you! :-) |
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