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Post by Primemovermithrax Pejorative on Aug 31, 2017 19:31:43 GMT
In the 1963 film, when King Aeetes shows up, he has 4 black men with him. They are behind him when he appears in the Temple of Hecate and they are in frame as he gives his speech to Jason. Then, in the banquet they are also close by. In fact, it is they who take Jason into custody.
They are not seen again.
Who were these 4 black men?
Why were they included?
Why were they shown to arrest Jason and not seen again?
Thoughts?
I figure it was some kind of subliminal message on the part of the studio owners--maybe they got some perverse enjoyment out of it--not something most people would notice and I only spotted them by accident as I was pondering how Columbia regarded politics differently from the other big studios.
Or maybe they were the Platters and wanted a cameo?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2017 21:32:08 GMT
Or maybe they're four random guards and that's it. There WERE Black Greeks. And we do know the ancient Greeks had contact with Africa, at Naukratis.
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Post by Primemovermithrax Pejorative on Sept 1, 2017 0:28:30 GMT
But they do not appear again even in the background. Even when Aeetes is in the banquet hall and everyone is drunk--the four are not present. For the rest of the movie all his guards are white. If they were so important (and they must have been since they arrested Jason--without weapons I might add) why werent they present at the most important time?
They are not present in the prison scene either.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2017 1:24:33 GMT
You really think a movie is going to bother with caring about what extras are in the background for more than whatever they were in. They're just guards. Its not difficult to assume they were off guarding other things in other scenes.
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Post by Primemovermithrax Pejorative on Sept 1, 2017 1:57:45 GMT
You really think a movie is going to bother with caring about what extras are in the background for more than whatever they were in. They're just guards. Its not difficult to assume they were off guarding other things in other scenes. No I cant buy that because in 1963 Italy black actors werent falling off trees like apples. They were introduced and used in a specific way-and then disappear. Someone made the decision to bring in 4 black guys and use them in that fashion. It is just weird. |
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Post by them1ghtyhumph on Sept 1, 2017 2:45:07 GMT
In the 1963 film, when King Aeetes shows up, he has 4 black men with him. They are behind him when he appears in the Temple of Hecate and they are in frame as he gives his speech to Jason. Then, in the banquet they are also close by. In fact, it is they who take Jason into custody. They are not seen again. Who were these 4 black men? Why were they included? Why were they shown to arrest Jason and not seen again? Thoughts? I figure it was some kind of subliminal message on the part of the studio owners--maybe they got some perverse enjoyment out of it--not something most people would notice and I only spotted them by accident as I was pondering how Columbia regarded politics differently from the other big studios. Or maybe they were the Platters and wanted a cameo? Union rules |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2017 3:00:02 GMT
You really think a movie is going to bother with caring about what extras are in the background for more than whatever they were in. They're just guards. Its not difficult to assume they were off guarding other things in other scenes. No I cant buy that because in 1963 Italy black actors werent falling off trees like apples. They were introduced and used in a specific way-and then disappear. Someone made the decision to bring in 4 black guys and use them in that fashion. It is just weird. I might be inclined to consider the point if you didn't always react like this to the presence of non-whites in movies and TV. |
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Post by Primemovermithrax Pejorative on Sept 1, 2017 6:31:12 GMT
I might be inclined to consider the point if you didn't always react like this to the presence of non-whites in movies and TV. There is a theory that the studio owners deliberately introduced black characters as cops, scientists, wise men etc not as a positive role model for black people but as a way of lowering distrust that white people had about blacks (crime, rape etc). I find that theory hard to dismiss since we have arrived at a point where a room full of black characters is ok, but a room full of white characters means KKK. The studio owners definitely have a dislike for white people even when they claim to be promoting understanding and diversity (though Marlon Brando called them out for hypocrisy and had to apologize for it--since Warners, Paramount, Fox, and Universal had much more egregious stereotypes of other races than RKO or Disney or Republic Pictures). Whatever the case, the example in Jason is friggin' weird. |
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Post by politicidal on Sept 2, 2017 0:41:54 GMT
To make you suspicious and uneasy.
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Post by petrolino on Sept 2, 2017 3:32:19 GMT
Got the counts for random personnel in other fiction fantasies? Let's compare figures.
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Post by RiP, IMDb on Sept 2, 2017 3:34:16 GMT
Nobody other than you CARES!!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2017 14:48:37 GMT
Got the counts for random personnel in other fiction fantasies? Let's compare figures. Don't get this guy started. He also thinks Wonder Woman was made to make Hillary Clinton look good. How that's supposed to work, I don't know. |
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Post by Primemovermithrax Pejorative on Sept 2, 2017 19:31:12 GMT
Oh you mean like that George Clooney movie about blacks moving into a white neighborhood was just coincidence right? lol I can accept some of you are dumb, but do you have to be so blatant about it? Anyway the winner in this thread is politicidal. Best answer. PS On the subject of Wonder Woman, I saw this post on another board: "I did find it ironic that a jewish Wonder Woman defeated the Germans and ended WWI"  |
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