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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Sept 3, 2017 8:29:27 GMT
"My wife is dead. My name is disgraced. My family and friends tortured and hanged." Now, it seems the lizard bitch does die and Cersei gets things under control in the end
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2017 9:06:47 GMT
This looks good!
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Post by jon snow loves sansa on Sept 14, 2017 19:36:23 GMT
I love it and his Voice !! He sounds just like Jon snow lol so intense
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Post by Aj_June on Sept 18, 2017 10:11:46 GMT
I love it and his Voice !! He sounds just like Jon snow lol so intense What exactly is this Jonsa? There is a blogger who believes Arya and Jon represent Catherine and Heathcliff of Wuthering Heights. He has been writing about their love for years. It seems from your avatar and user name that you are trying to suggest as if Jon and Sansa have some very special bonding?
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Post by jon snow loves sansa on Sept 18, 2017 23:39:49 GMT
I love it and his Voice !! He sounds just like Jon snow lol so intense What exactly is this Jonsa? There is a blogger who believes Arya and Jon represent Catherine and Heathcliff of Wuthering Heights. He has been writing about their love for years. It seems from your avatar and user name that you are trying to suggest as if Jon and Sansa have some very special bonding? Yes I'm a jonsa fan that loves Jon and Sansa together,I'm not the only one to suggest that there are many book readers and fans who are jonsa fans and believe Jon and Sansa will end up together if they make it to the end ,and judging from what we have watched since season 6 and the interaction between Jon and Sansa I believe Jon loves Sansa in a romantic way not a sisterly way and feels shame for it . Arya and Jon I don't see happening romantically since Jon and arya share a real sibling bond , unlike the one he has with Sansa,the arya/Jon rumors started and is based on GRMM original outline of game of thrones he had arya flee to castleblack where Tyrion was there too and a love triangle between Jon/arya and Tyrion occurred,Arya and Jon were tormented by their feelings knowing they can't be together since they believed they were siblings and not cousins , and in the original outline Sansa married Joffrey and had a child with him !! Obviously GRMM changed his mind but giving some things that happened with Sansa fleeing to castleblack last season and fact she was also married to Tyrion it's obvious GRMM has given Aryas part of story to Sansa since Sansa and Jon were never close and never shared a sibling bond,and the tension building up between Jon and Sansa ,they fight like a married couple and they are clone version of cat and Ned , Jon and Sansa s arm grabs holding hands at dinner table camera zooms in , jon to ygiritte season 4 I like to see you in a silk dress, Jon season 6 to Sansa , new dress ? I like the wolf bit ,what brother notices a new dress ?? They are giving hints everywhere. Jon has literally threatned every man Sansa has been involved with same way a lover would and before anyone tells me he is acting like an over protecting brother NO he is not I have a brother when my brother kisses my forehead he doesn't rest his hand on my head and gazes in my eyes and stares at my lips ,like Jon did, jons behavior is not normal , I can go on and on But if you can't see it it or don't see it that way it's pointless , I believe he slept with Dany to bury his feelings for Sansa , when Jon and Dany had sex he had the most confused look on his face like he was searching to see someone else in her face , all I know is Jon looks at Sansa with different eyes not In a brotherly way . this video is well done
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Sept 19, 2017 2:43:01 GMT
What exactly is this Jonsa? There is a blogger who believes Arya and Jon represent Catherine and Heathcliff of Wuthering Heights. He has been writing about their love for years. It seems from your avatar and user name that you are trying to suggest as if Jon and Sansa have some very special bonding? I believe Jon loves Sansa in a romantic way not a sisterly way and feels shame for it . All this is about Jon. I haven't watched the video yet but I must ask: is there any chance of Sansa returning this? "You are a Stark to me" doesn't leave much hope of anything.
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Post by Aj_June on Sept 19, 2017 11:06:06 GMT
What exactly is this Jonsa? There is a blogger who believes Arya and Jon represent Catherine and Heathcliff of Wuthering Heights. He has been writing about their love for years. It seems from your avatar and user name that you are trying to suggest as if Jon and Sansa have some very special bonding? Yes I'm a jonsa fan that loves Jon and Sansa together,I'm not the only one to suggest that there are many book readers and fans who are jonsa fans and believe Jon and Sansa will end up together if they make it to the end ,and judging from what we have watched since season 6 and the interaction between Jon and Sansa I believe Jon loves Sansa in a romantic way not a sisterly way and feels shame for it . Arya and Jon I don't see happening romantically since Jon and arya share a real sibling bond , unlike the one he has with Sansa,the arya/Jon rumors started and is based on GRMM original outline of game of thrones he had arya flee to castleblack where Tyrion was there too and a love triangle between Jon/arya and Tyrion occurred,Arya and Jon were tormented by their feelings knowing they can't be together since they believed they were siblings and not cousins , and in the original outline Sansa married Joffrey and had a child with him !! Obviously GRMM changed his mind but giving some things that happened with Sansa fleeing to castleblack last season and fact she was also married to Tyrion it's obvious GRMM has given Aryas part of story to Sansa since Sansa and Jon were never close and never shared a sibling bond,and the tension building up between Jon and Sansa ,they fight like a married couple and they are clone version of cat and Ned , Jon and Sansa s arm grabs holding hands at dinner table camera zooms in , jon to ygiritte season 4 I like to see you in a silk dress, Jon season 6 to Sansa , new dress ? I like the wolf bit ,what brother notices a new dress ?? They are giving hints everywhere. Jon has literally threatned every man Sansa has been involved with same way a lover would and before anyone tells me he is acting like an over protecting brother NO he is not I have a brother when my brother kisses my forehead he doesn't rest his hand on my head and gazes in my eyes and stares at my lips ,like Jon did, jons behavior is not normal , I can go on and on But if you can't see it it or don't see it that way it's pointless , I believe he slept with Dany to bury his feelings for Sansa , when Jon and Dany had sex he had the most confused look on his face like he was searching to see someone else in her face , all I know is Jon looks at Sansa with different eyes not In a brotherly way . this video is well done I do agree that there is some romance between Sansa and Jon in the show version and there is some sort of uneasy feelings in Jon when it comes to Sansa. But I don't know if the producers will ultimately show romantic relationship between Jon and Sansa with such a limited time remaining. They already did a terrible mess up by not bringing Jon and Arya in the 7th season. Jon and Arya have a pretty good brotherly-sisterly relationship in the show.
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Post by jon snow loves sansa on Sept 19, 2017 12:23:23 GMT
Yes I'm a jonsa fan that loves Jon and Sansa together,I'm not the only one to suggest that there are many book readers and fans who are jonsa fans and believe Jon and Sansa will end up together if they make it to the end ,and judging from what we have watched since season 6 and the interaction between Jon and Sansa I believe Jon loves Sansa in a romantic way not a sisterly way and feels shame for it . Arya and Jon I don't see happening romantically since Jon and arya share a real sibling bond , unlike the one he has with Sansa,the arya/Jon rumors started and is based on GRMM original outline of game of thrones he had arya flee to castleblack where Tyrion was there too and a love triangle between Jon/arya and Tyrion occurred,Arya and Jon were tormented by their feelings knowing they can't be together since they believed they were siblings and not cousins , and in the original outline Sansa married Joffrey and had a child with him !! Obviously GRMM changed his mind but giving some things that happened with Sansa fleeing to castleblack last season and fact she was also married to Tyrion it's obvious GRMM has given Aryas part of story to Sansa since Sansa and Jon were never close and never shared a sibling bond,and the tension building up between Jon and Sansa ,they fight like a married couple and they are clone version of cat and Ned , Jon and Sansa s arm grabs holding hands at dinner table camera zooms in , jon to ygiritte season 4 I like to see you in a silk dress, Jon season 6 to Sansa , new dress ? I like the wolf bit ,what brother notices a new dress ?? They are giving hints everywhere. Jon has literally threatned every man Sansa has been involved with same way a lover would and before anyone tells me he is acting like an over protecting brother NO he is not I have a brother when my brother kisses my forehead he doesn't rest his hand on my head and gazes in my eyes and stares at my lips ,like Jon did, jons behavior is not normal , I can go on and on But if you can't see it it or don't see it that way it's pointless , I believe he slept with Dany to bury his feelings for Sansa , when Jon and Dany had sex he had the most confused look on his face like he was searching to see someone else in her face , all I know is Jon looks at Sansa with different eyes not In a brotherly way . this video is well done I do agree that there is some romance between Sansa and Jon in the show version and there is some sort of uneasy feelings in Jon when it comes to Sansa. But I don't know if the producers will ultimately show romantic relationship between Jon and Sansa with such a limited time remaining. They already did a terrible mess up by not bringing Jon and Arya in the 7th season. Jon and Arya have a pretty good brotherly-sisterly relationship in the show. It's true D&D may not do it at all and if it ends with a jonsa pairing it will be just noted like the last two minutes before the show ends kinda like an Aragon and Arwen thing from LOTR ,I just feel because they showed all those moments with jonsa it must mean something,otherwise it was pointless,also there is this sad rumor that Sansa may end up being nissa nissa , if Jon ends up being Azor Ahai he would need to sacrifice someone he loves ,Azor Ahai sacrificed his wife, the strongest evidence Sansa being nissa nissa is the sacrifice of her direwolf Lady killed by Ned, Ned didn't want to do it but he did it because he didn't want the wolf to be butchered and killed by Lannister soilders and felt sick afterwards.It is believed the stark children mirror the fate of their direwolfs, lady was killed by a loved one and from a sword -ICE . Jon would fit that that description. I would personally hate it if it happened,and just hope the killing of lady meant sansas innocence or starkness died in her she always wanted to be somewhere else or someone else when she was younger and now as an adult wants to be home and a stark more than ever ,maybe that is not meant to be her fate and through marriage she may end up back to KL. or Dany can be this nissa nissa person she is made from fire after all could lit up lightbringer. I felt same way about Jon and arya , of all the stark siblings Jon loved arya the most and the way he reacted finding out she and bran were alive was puzzling he looked more worried or concerned than happy even Dany noticed it , I hope their reunion S8 will be emotional , just hope they don't go all dark on that relationship.
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Post by jon snow loves sansa on Sept 19, 2017 12:47:43 GMT
I believe Jon loves Sansa in a romantic way not a sisterly way and feels shame for it . All this is about Jon. I haven't watched the video yet but I must ask: is there any chance of Sansa returning this? "You are a Stark to me" doesn't leave much hope of anything. Leo you mean the love part coming only from jons side and not Sansa? Could be after all this show has a theme of characters being in love with people who don't love them back or people they can't be together for some reason, but I believe when Sansa told Jon " you are a Stark to me "she was finally accepting him as part of their family , Sansa when she was younger referred Jon as the bastard of their family never accepted him ,kinda took her mothers side ,they were never close as siblings , Sansa was only stark member Jon didn't say goodbye when he took the black and left for castleblack , it's only now we see them together, but you do have a good point and we still have to see how Sansa feels about Jon , however LF did plan some seeds of doubt in Sansa before his execution he told sansa that the dragon queen is very beautiful and unmarried and noted Jon is young and unmarried , Sansa then asks LF are you saying Jon would want to marry her ? That conversation alone was set up for a future triangle IMO , it will be interesting to see how Sansa reacts when she sees Jon and Dany together. Video is short and well done and it's not only about jon and Sansa but includes other characters and how it relates to their storyline.
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Sept 19, 2017 12:53:28 GMT
Leo you mean the love part coming only from jons side and not Sansa? … I believe when Sansa told Jon " you are a Stark to me "she was finally accepting him as part of their family. Yes and that's the whole point. If Sansa sees Jon as family, it won't be as anything else unless she goes full Cersei on him.
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Post by jon snow loves sansa on Sept 19, 2017 13:08:16 GMT
Leo you mean the love part coming only from jons side and not Sansa? … I believe when Sansa told Jon " you are a Stark to me "she was finally accepting him as part of their family. Yes and that's the whole point. If Sansa sees Jon as family, it won't be as anything else unless she goes full Cersei on him. I don't buy that fans have been wanting Sansa to betray Jon since they reunited and each season they get dissapointed when she doesn't but doesn't stop them by calling her the B word ,Sansa loves Jon I do not know in what way we have yet to find out but she had a chance to take the king title from him and didn't BUT we have to see how things will play out when he comes home with Dany and truth comes out who he really is, honestly I do see some cersei /Jamie like moments or scenes with Jon and Sansa coming up in S8 ,maybe the lords of north will strip Jon from his title and give it to Sansa. Of all of them I see Dany at odds with Jon when she finds the truth don't think she will be happy to find out Jon has bigger claim than her to the throne unless writers go all dark and make Jon the mad one when he finds out the truth who he really is.
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Post by jon snow loves sansa on Sept 19, 2017 16:54:18 GMT
Leo you mean the love part coming only from jons side and not Sansa? … I believe when Sansa told Jon " you are a Stark to me "she was finally accepting him as part of their family. Yes and that's the whole point. If Sansa sees Jon as family, it won't be as anything else unless she goes full Cersei on him. Rereading your orignal post LEO Sansa going full cersei on Jon , meaning as she doesn't care and creates a relationship with him ? I thought you meant a betrayal . If so I say why not ? I think Sansa is a smart political player and if she feels being with Jon is a smart move she may , another parallel cat didn't love Ned either she loved neds older brother Brandon but after his death cat was betrothed to Ned it was more of a political marriage and their love grew for each other , it's like history repeating itself but not quite the same with differences
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Sept 19, 2017 17:04:46 GMT
Yes and that's the whole point. If Sansa sees Jon as family, it won't be as anything else unless she goes full Cersei on him. Rereading your orignal post LEO Sansa going full cersei on Jon , meaning as she doesn't care and creates a relationship with him ? Yes, although Cersei's motives with regards to her relation to Jaime were not political, of course. Whatever, Sansa considering Jon family means she is not likely to think of him in a romantic way. She's just adopted him as a full brother and learning he's her cousin won't change anything to this.
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Post by jon snow loves sansa on Sept 19, 2017 22:40:29 GMT
Rereading your orignal post LEO Sansa going full cersei on Jon , meaning as she doesn't care and creates a relationship with him ? Yes, although Cersei's motives with regards to her relation to Jaime were not political, of course. Whatever, Sansa considering Jon family means she is not likely to think of him in a romantic way. She's just adopted him as a full brother and learning he's her cousin won't change anything to this. I can't say for sure what will Sansa do until S8 begins but as far as jons goes all the signs are there . GRMM did say that in his upcoming book winds of winter Sansa will have a very controversial chapter
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Post by Aj_June on Sept 22, 2017 11:50:17 GMT
I do agree that there is some romance between Sansa and Jon in the show version and there is some sort of uneasy feelings in Jon when it comes to Sansa. But I don't know if the producers will ultimately show romantic relationship between Jon and Sansa with such a limited time remaining. They already did a terrible mess up by not bringing Jon and Arya in the 7th season. Jon and Arya have a pretty good brotherly-sisterly relationship in the show. It's true D&D may not do it at all and if it ends with a jonsa pairing it will be just noted like the last two minutes before the show ends kinda like an Aragon and Arwen thing from LOTR ,I just feel because they showed all those moments with jonsa it must mean something,otherwise it was pointless,also there is this sad rumor that Sansa may end up being nissa nissa , if Jon ends up being Azor Ahai he would need to sacrifice someone he loves ,Azor Ahai sacrificed his wife, the strongest evidence Sansa being nissa nissa is the sacrifice of her direwolf Lady killed by Ned, Ned didn't want to do it but he did it because he didn't want the wolf to be butchered and killed by Lannister soilders and felt sick afterwards.It is believed the stark children mirror the fate of their direwolfs, lady was killed by a loved one and from a sword -ICE . Jon would fit that that description. I would personally hate it if it happened,and just hope the killing of lady meant sansas innocence or starkness died in her she always wanted to be somewhere else or someone else when she was younger and now as an adult wants to be home and a stark more than ever ,maybe that is not meant to be her fate and through marriage she may end up back to KL. or Dany can be this nissa nissa person she is made from fire after all could lit up lightbringer. I felt same way about Jon and arya , of all the stark siblings Jon loved arya the most and the way he reacted finding out she and bran were alive was puzzling he looked more worried or concerned than happy even Dany noticed it , I hope their reunion S8 will be emotional , just hope they don't go all dark on that relationship. There was no need for shutting down the show in 8 seasons. There was a lot of potential for love and romance between Sansa and Jon. Sansa had a cold relationship with Jon in her childhood and she never really thought of him as her brother. Jon also never seriously considered Sansa as sister and his attachment to her was more to her name and there was more of a sense of duty in his getting close to her after their reunion. Also, I don't like Jon with Dany. If Jon survives (though I wish that doesn't happen) then he should go after Sansa.
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Post by jon snow loves sansa on Sept 24, 2017 0:45:58 GMT
It's true D&D may not do it at all and if it ends with a jonsa pairing it will be just noted like the last two minutes before the show ends kinda like an Aragon and Arwen thing from LOTR ,I just feel because they showed all those moments with jonsa it must mean something,otherwise it was pointless,also there is this sad rumor that Sansa may end up being nissa nissa , if Jon ends up being Azor Ahai he would need to sacrifice someone he loves ,Azor Ahai sacrificed his wife, the strongest evidence Sansa being nissa nissa is the sacrifice of her direwolf Lady killed by Ned, Ned didn't want to do it but he did it because he didn't want the wolf to be butchered and killed by Lannister soilders and felt sick afterwards.It is believed the stark children mirror the fate of their direwolfs, lady was killed by a loved one and from a sword -ICE . Jon would fit that that description. I would personally hate it if it happened,and just hope the killing of lady meant sansas innocence or starkness died in her she always wanted to be somewhere else or someone else when she was younger and now as an adult wants to be home and a stark more than ever ,maybe that is not meant to be her fate and through marriage she may end up back to KL. or Dany can be this nissa nissa person she is made from fire after all could lit up lightbringer. I felt same way about Jon and arya , of all the stark siblings Jon loved arya the most and the way he reacted finding out she and bran were alive was puzzling he looked more worried or concerned than happy even Dany noticed it , I hope their reunion S8 will be emotional , just hope they don't go all dark on that relationship. There was no need for shutting down the show in 8 seasons. There was a lot of potential for love and romance between Sansa and Jon. Sansa had a cold relationship with Jon in her childhood and she never really thought of him as her brother. Jon also never seriously considered Sansa as sister and his attachment to her was more to her name and there was more of a sense of duty in his getting close to her after their reunion. Also, I don't like Jon with Dany. If Jon survives (though I wish that doesn't happen) then he should go after Sansa. I agree well said that is exactly what Jon and sansas relationship as siblings was like - non existent , when it comes to Jon and Dany it just feels wrong to me .I think they will have one of them die but not both ,no matter what happens I sincerely hope it doesn't end with a baby or child scene that it's jons or danys child with Tyrion reading to them or telling them the GOT story ,that sequence has hapened in so many movies it is not so creative .
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