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Post by spooner5020 on Sept 16, 2017 15:03:40 GMT
It sure seems like that nowadays. Doug Walker (Nostalgia critic) and his brother Rob did not like IT 2017 and neither did Angryjoe. Now I take their all of their opinions with a grain of salt and also Doug makes a living hating on movies and Angryjoe reviews video games. Why does this bother me so much you may ask? Let me explain. Because you have people who are only familiar with the miniseries reviewing a movie that was a novel first. Doug and his brother aren't even Stephen King fans mind you. So why did they go to see IT if they already didn't like the source material. They were already going in wanting to hate it and they came out hating it.
If you are basing the IT remake based on the miniseries and not the novel (which the remake is actually a lot closer to despite year difference) your opinion of the movie is invalid. I'm not saying you can't base your review around how much it followed the miniseries because either way you look at the movie it's still a remake of the miniseries it's just closer to the book,but it means nothing if you never read the book since the miniseries was a very poor take on the novel to begin with.
Now to get to my real point. I've noticed a lot of times people will say that they hated a movie that's sitting very high on Rotten Tomatoes. IT is currently sitting at an 85% which is a "certified fresh" and yet I see reviews from Doug Walker and angry joe saying "oh the movie's not that good it's just alright". You are allowed to have your opinion,but they said the same thing about Spider-Man homecoming which is also a certified fresh and then gave reasons why they didn't like it that aren't even valid. He absolutely hated Beauty and The Beast and the Jungle book remakes,but like I said I think he was already going into them hating them to begin with so his opinions like i said mean very little to me.
When you hate on a movie that is sitting very ihigh on Rotten Tomatoes it actually makes you look like you have a bad taste in movies. I've actually saw a review where someone said the Transformer movies are better than Pacific Rim. That makes you sound like a complete fool and people are gonna laugh at you for saying something that ridiculous. People will not wanna see movies with you If you see a movie that is sitting highly. It's not cool to hate on a good movie and I wish people could learn from this.
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Post by barkingbaphomet on Sept 16, 2017 15:20:25 GMT
When you hate on a movie that is sitting very ihigh on Rotten Tomatoes it actually makes you look like you have a bad taste in movies.  i've not listened to either review (and in the Nostalgic case i likely never will) but since they weren't reviewing the book comparisons to the television version are pretty reasonable. the new film did have a lot of issues with its execution of the Horror elements. |
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Post by spooner5020 on Sept 16, 2017 15:32:48 GMT
When you hate on a movie that is sitting very ihigh on Rotten Tomatoes it actually makes you look like you have a bad taste in movies. i've not listened to either review (and in the Nostalgic case i likely never will) but since they weren't reviewing the book comparisons to the television version are pretty reasonable. the new film did have a lot of issues with its execution of the Horror elements. I never said the movie was perfect,but it's very good. People just seem to hate the movie because they think it's cool not to agree with Rotten Tomatoes. |
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Post by politicidal on Sept 16, 2017 16:00:37 GMT
I think so. It's a rather jaded bitter world we live in. At the same time though, people do have the right to voice their opinions. It's ultimately up to you to judge a movie for yourself as far as whether or not you like it or not.
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Post by MCDemuth on Sept 16, 2017 16:05:31 GMT
From what I have seen, most people who lash out at movies with hate, and call them "garbage", have personal issues. Either they just don't like the movie, or they see a sequel or remake as being something that stomps all over their good memories of what came before.
And yes there are other times, when people are being trolls or they do think it is cool to disagree...
For the most part, though, I find most of the so-called "bad' movies are rarely "Garbage". They are just different. There is usually something that can be found in them that are good. Even if it just a few scenes.
Quite frankly, this hatred toward remakes is stupid and getting old, and is just plain ridiculous. Either just watch the original, or go watch the remake, knowing full well it won't be like what the original was. After all... WHY WOULD ANYONE MAKE THE EXACT SAME MOVIE AGAIN?
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Post by spooner5020 on Sept 16, 2017 16:35:29 GMT
I'm glad everyone agrees with me.
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Post by Primemovermithrax Pejorative on Sept 16, 2017 16:39:11 GMT
In some cases its a way to get attention but it can also be a response to the mass marketing BS that is used to advertise movies these days.
The advertising used now is like something out of the Soviet Union or Canada). The state/corporation tells the public something is good or important, they do not make that decision themselves.
It has gone beyond the absurd.
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Post by NewtJorden on Sept 16, 2017 16:41:19 GMT
Doug Walker often mentionned that he love Stephen Kings, so its a little surprising that he hated the new It movie. Rob Walker seems to hate almost everything. But a lot of peoples these days are hating on movies because its cool to do so.
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Post by fangirl1975 on Sept 16, 2017 16:46:38 GMT
In some cases its a way to get attention but it can also be a response to the mass marketing BS that is used to advertise movies these days. The advertising used now is like something out of the Soviet Union or Canada). The state/corporation tells the public something is good or important, they do not make that decision themselves. It has gone beyond the absurd. Yes, in some cases it is an extreme reaction to the hype. Personally, I take a "Prove it." stance towards the marketing of major motion pictures. |
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Post by teleadm on Sept 16, 2017 17:04:21 GMT
Normally I know about a movie, or have heard about it, or beeing tipped about it.
I avoid reading about it neither in the papers or on the net.
I watch a movie and then make up my mind.
Then I read what others have said, sometimes I agree, sometimes they praise something I thought was bad, and sometimes they heckle something I thought was good, but that is how it is in life, you can't have everything.
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Post by moviemouth on Sept 16, 2017 17:38:34 GMT
I can't stand the Nostalgia Critic.
I like IT but I do dislike Spider-Man: Homecoming quite a bit.
Cinderella is the only good live-action Disney remake so far, though I don't HATE The Jungle Book or Beauty and the Beast,
I watched all of those movies wanting to like them but I am not just going to pretend I think they are good when I don't. In fact, I am pretty confused about the praise the movies above have received. I am not concerned with whether people think I have bad taste or not and in certain cases I think it's everyone else that has bad taste.
Some people do just hate movies to hate but I am not one of those people.
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Post by spooner5020 on Sept 16, 2017 19:04:05 GMT
I can't stand the Nostalgia Critic. I like IT but I do dislike Spider-Man: Homecoming quite a bit. Cinderella is the only good live-action Disney remake so far, though I don't HATE The Jungle Book or Beauty and the Beast, I watched all of those movies wanting to like them but I am not just going to pretend I think they are good when I don't. In fact, I am pretty confused about the praise the movies above have received. I am not concerned with whether people think I have bad taste or not and in certain cases I think it's everyone else that has bad taste. Some people do just hate movies to hate but I am not one of those people. The more I learn about the NC the more I dislike him. It sounds like him and his brother are total douchebags. I wish that was just part of his character,but I don't know if I'm surprised. Like I said he seems to be a totalsnob and if the movie doesen't meet his expectations he automatically calls it bad. Again this is the same guy who thought the novel IT was bad. The movie wasn't made for him he should not have been reviewing it to begin with. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2017 20:03:19 GMT
I can't stand the Nostalgia Critic. I don`t really mind him. But alot of the stuff he complains about when it comes to movies are just stupid or it has nothing to do with whether or not a movie is good or bad. |
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Post by Terrapin Station on Sept 16, 2017 20:04:04 GMT
I'm usually pretty laissez-faire, but it's hard for me to imagine hanging out with Doug Walker and not wanting to kick his ass just because he's such a douchey dweeb. Maybe his real personality is nothing at all like his web shtick, but that's part of the problem--he should try not doing shtick. On the other hand, it worked--he has fans, but I can't for the life of me figure out how anyone would find his personality attractive, and I especially can't figure out how anyone would find him funny or entertaining. Hopefully it's not because folks identify with him.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2017 20:05:10 GMT
Doug Walker often mentionned that he love Stephen Kings, so its a little surprising that he hated the new It movie. Rob Walker seems to hate almost everything. But a lot of peoples these days are hating on movies because its cool to do so. I thinks its the books he loves not the movie\tv adapations. He seem to hate all of those. I agree Rob Walker seem to hate everything. But so does Doug Walker it seems. |
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Post by spooner5020 on Sept 16, 2017 20:06:03 GMT
Or could it be that just because you think a movie is good, it does not mean everybody thinks its good. And you know just because you think a movie is bad don`t mean everybody thinks its bad. I'm not saying every movie has to be good. I'm just saying that the scores on Rotten Tomatoes do speak for themselves,except for Ghostbusters 2016 and Wonderwoman of course. If a movie is sitting at a certified fresh and you can't come up with a good reason of why you didn't like it,you look like a total moron. IT 2017 definitely has flaws,but the good outweighs the bad. It's just people like Doug Walker and his brother and Angry joe really get under my skin because they make their opinions out like theirs is right and everyone who disagrees with them are wrong. |
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Post by Nalkarj on Sept 16, 2017 20:07:31 GMT
Couldn't it just be that these critics simply didn't like it?
Heck, I'm not a big fan of very-well-reviewed The Dark Knight, and I'm a huge fan of the badly-reviewed Congo, and I think my opinion is just as valid as anyone else's. It's all opinion--no?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2017 20:09:24 GMT
It sure seems like that nowadays. Doug Walker (Nostalgia critic) and his brother Rob did not like IT 2017 and neither did Angryjoe. Now I take their all of their opinions with a grain of salt and also Doug makes a living hating on movies and Angryjoe reviews video games. Why does this bother me so much you may ask? Let me explain. Because you have people who are only familiar with the miniseries reviewing a movie that was a novel first. Doug and his brother aren't even Stephen King fans mind you. So why did they go to see IT if they already didn't like the source material. They were already going in wanting to hate it and they came out hating it. If you are basing the IT remake based on the miniseries and not the novel (which the remake is actually a lot closer to despite year difference) your opinion of the movie is invalid. I'm not saying you can't base your review around how much it followed the miniseries because either way you look at the movie it's still a remake of the miniseries it's just closer to the book,but it means nothing if you never read the book since the miniseries was a very poor take on the novel to begin with. Now to get to my real point. I've noticed a lot of times people will say that they hated a movie that's sitting very high on Rotten Tomatoes. IT is currently sitting at an 85% which is a "certified fresh" and yet I see reviews from Doug Walker and angry joe saying "oh the movie's not that good it's just alright". You are allowed to have your opinion,but they said the same thing about Spider-Man homecoming which is also a certified fresh and then gave reasons why they didn't like it that aren't even valid. He absolutely hated Beauty and The Beast and the Jungle book remakes,but like I said I think he was already going into them hating them to begin with so his opinions like i said mean very little to me. When you hate on a movie that is sitting very ihigh on Rotten Tomatoes it actually makes you look like you have a bad taste in movies. I've actually saw a review where someone said the Transformer movies are better than Pacific Rim. That makes you sound like a complete fool and people are gonna laugh at you for saying something that ridiculous. People will not wanna see movies with you If you see a movie that is sitting highly. It's not cool to hate on a good movie and I wish people could learn from this. I think both Dough Walker and his brother Rob just hate for the sake of hating. I mean i have watched most of the Nostalgia Critic reviews and when you give bad reviews to pretty much every movie as Doug Walker is doing. Than its hard to take anything he says seriously. My god i need to learn how to spell and use proper grammer...............oh well |
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Post by Terrapin Station on Sept 16, 2017 20:16:00 GMT
I mean i have watched most of the Nostalgia Critic reviews Why would you torture yourself like that? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2017 20:18:55 GMT
You really shouldn't pay any heed to what the Walker brothers say. They never do the research and are liable to overlook even the most obvious details. They called Moulin Rouge pretentious, for crying out loud!
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