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Post by hoskotafe3 on Mar 19, 2023 18:41:49 GMT
Great result but what the hell is going on with the pitches over there? Both games have seen teams shot out batting first. Plenty of early movement which helps whoever bowls first.
Just a correction to bob's post. Stokes is,for now, retired from ODI cricket. I would be very surprised if England didn't try to coax him out of retirement for the WC so he could well be there anyway.
Australia's chances hinge on Starc. We wouldn't have won in 2015 without him. He was the main reason we were sitting top before a loss to the Saffers in our final group game derailed our 2019 campaign. With early swing on offer Starc's the man to take 2 or 3 early wickets to set up games.
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Post by hoskotafe3 on Mar 21, 2023 18:33:28 GMT
Saffers weren't mucking around last night chasing down West Indies' 260 with more than 20 overs to spare.
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Post by Aj_June on Mar 21, 2023 19:53:46 GMT
Great result but what the hell is going on with the pitches over there? Both games have seen teams shot out batting first. Plenty of early movement which helps whoever bowls first. Just a correction to bob's post. Stokes is,for now, retired from ODI cricket. I would be very surprised if England didn't try to coax him out of retirement for the WC so he could well be there anyway. Australia's chances hinge on Starc. We wouldn't have won in 2015 without him. He was the main reason we were sitting top before a loss to the Saffers in our final group game derailed our 2019 campaign. With early swing on offer Starc's the man to take 2 or 3 early wickets to set up games. There's not much in pitch except a bit of movement and there was a bit of bounce. Indian batsmen display complete lack of quality whatsoever when facing challenging circumstances. They were reaching out for balls before even settling down and they paid the price. Indian team depends on late order and players like Jadeja to bail them out.
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Post by hoskotafe3 on Mar 21, 2023 21:08:25 GMT
Great result but what the hell is going on with the pitches over there? Both games have seen teams shot out batting first. Plenty of early movement which helps whoever bowls first. Just a correction to bob's post. Stokes is,for now, retired from ODI cricket. I would be very surprised if England didn't try to coax him out of retirement for the WC so he could well be there anyway. Australia's chances hinge on Starc. We wouldn't have won in 2015 without him. He was the main reason we were sitting top before a loss to the Saffers in our final group game derailed our 2019 campaign. With early swing on offer Starc's the man to take 2 or 3 early wickets to set up games. There's not much in pitch except a bit of movement and there was a bit of bounce. Indian batsmen display complete lack of quality whatsoever when facing challenging circumstances. They were reaching out for balls before even settling down and they paid the price. Indian team depends on late order and players like Jadeja to bail them out. Given Australia's "effort" in the previous game, it's clearly not an exclusively Indian problem.
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Post by stryker on Mar 22, 2023 9:52:46 GMT
Saffers weren't mucking around last night chasing down West Indies' 260 with more than 20 overs to spare. Heinrich Klaasen was on fire, he just camped in the back of his crease and hit almost everything for four or six during his 61 ball 119 not out. Amazing knock, I think he is going to go from strength to strength after this, carrying a new found confidence forward. The lanky Marco "Plankie" Jansen gave him some wonderful support, flapping a good few balls for fours and sixes during his 33 ball 43.
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Post by hoskotafe3 on Mar 22, 2023 17:26:26 GMT
Australia beat India again. Indians were looking likely winners until Kohli and Yadav fell in consecutive balls. Zamoa showed his class. Still not sold on Australia's WC credentials.
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Post by weststigersbob on Mar 23, 2023 2:24:43 GMT
India lose rather than Australia win. Fantastic effort by the bowlers. I think Australia are a decent show at the WC, but in my mind they are a rung below England, Pakistan and India in those conditions. That being said, India and Pakistan are known to get wobbly at the pointy end, while Australia rarely does.
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Post by Power Ranger on Mar 24, 2023 6:38:43 GMT
India lose rather than Australia win. Fantastic effort by the bowlers. I think Australia are a decent show at the WC, but in my mind they are a rung below England, Pakistan and India in those conditions. That being said, India and Pakistan are known to get wobbly at the pointy end, while Australia rarely does. Australia are a semi-finalist team for this WC and that’s it. Australia’s batting is a problem. Warner and Maxwell should be left out. I like what Warner has done for the country in the past but his current form just isn’t good enough. Green is a bit green in ODIs. Though he will be in India for the IPL which might help. Still I wouldn’t put him in the starting eleven. As for the rest of the batting, it’s a flip of the coin as to whether they’ll have a good day. I just hope our lower order pick up a bat in the net sessions as we’re probably going to rely on them.
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Post by stryker on Mar 26, 2023 15:50:53 GMT
West Indies post 258 (Johnson Charles 118 in 46 balls) in the second T20 against South Africa. SA, however, surpass it pretty easily, pulling off the highest ever successful run chase in T20Is - winning by six wickets with seven balls to spare (Quinton De Kock 100 in 44, Reeza Hendricks 68 in 28).
Wow, 517 runs were scored in 38,5 overs today. A T20 version of the famous 438 game?
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Post by Carl LaFong on Mar 31, 2023 10:10:06 GMT
Michael Vaughan cleared 'on balance of probabilities' of using racist language towards Azeem Rafiq Former England cricket captain Michael Vaughan has been cleared "on the balance of probabilities" of using racist language towards ex-Yorkshire team-mate Azeem Rafiq. Vaughan was accused of saying "there's too many of you lot, we need to have a word about that" to Rafiq and three other Asian players representing Yorkshire in 2009. The Cricket Discipline Commission (CDC) panel found the England and Wales Cricket Board's case against Vaughan, 48, was not proved. The panel said it was "not satisfied on the balance of probabilities" that the words were said by Vaughan "at the time and in the specific circumstances alleged". It added its findings "do not in any way undermine the wider assertions" made by Rafiq, who said English cricket is "institutionally racist". In its concluding remarks, the panel said: "This is not a case which necessitated a conclusion from the panel that anyone has lied or acted out of malice. "Far from it, the panel had to consider whether the case as presented to it by the ECB, in light of all the evidence, was sufficiently accurate and reliable, on the balance of probabilities, to rule out mistake. It was not." Rafiq alleged Vaughan made the comment to him, Adil Rashid, Rana Naved-ul-Hasan and Ajmal Shahzad before a match against Nottinghamshire at Trent Bridge on 22 June 2009. Vaughan - in a statement posted on social media before the ruling was officially released - said: "It has been both difficult and upsetting to hear about the painful experiences which Azeem has described over the past three years. "The outcome of these CDC proceedings must not be allowed to detract from the core message that there can be no place for racism in the game of cricket, or in society generally." He added: "I have never wanted to do anything that runs contrary to genuine efforts to clean up the game of cricket. I truly hope people can understand why, on a personal level, I could not just accept, or apologise for, something which I know I did not do. "At times, this process has brought me to the brink of falling out of love with cricket. I won't address here the toll that it has taken on me and my family, but I have no doubt that it has also been incredibly stressful for all of the others concerned. I hope that for them and for cricket, an inclusive healing process can now begin." www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/65135694
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Post by weststigersbob on Mar 31, 2023 11:23:39 GMT
West Indies post 258 (Johnson Charles 118 in 46 balls) in the second T20 against South Africa. SA, however, surpass it pretty easily, pulling off the highest ever successful run chase in T20Is - winning by six wickets with seven balls to spare (Quinton De Kock 100 in 44, Reeza Hendricks 68 in 28). Wow, 517 runs were scored in 38,5 overs today. A T20 version of the famous 438 game? I refer to that game as ‘infamous’. Altitude and a slick, small outfield combined with a deck that was as flat and hard as an airport runway meant that bowling was more a case of luck than good management. Mishits we’re going for four, (I remember a leading edge went over cover for four) and regular flicks to leg where carrying the boundary easy. There is absolutely no way known that it should be considered the BEST ODI game ever. Wouldn’t even crack my top 10. Likewise this T20. The Pak v Ind game from the WC would be a fair shout.
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Post by weststigersbob on Mar 31, 2023 11:26:37 GMT
Michael Vaughan cleared 'on balance of probabilities' of using racist language towards Azeem Rafiq Former England cricket captain Michael Vaughan has been cleared "on the balance of probabilities" of using racist language towards ex-Yorkshire team-mate Azeem Rafiq. Vaughan was accused of saying "there's too many of you lot, we need to have a word about that" to Rafiq and three other Asian players representing Yorkshire in 2009. The Cricket Discipline Commission (CDC) panel found the England and Wales Cricket Board's case against Vaughan, 48, was not proved. The panel said it was "not satisfied on the balance of probabilities" that the words were said by Vaughan "at the time and in the specific circumstances alleged". It added its findings "do not in any way undermine the wider assertions" made by Rafiq, who said English cricket is "institutionally racist". In its concluding remarks, the panel said: "This is not a case which necessitated a conclusion from the panel that anyone has lied or acted out of malice. "Far from it, the panel had to consider whether the case as presented to it by the ECB, in light of all the evidence, was sufficiently accurate and reliable, on the balance of probabilities, to rule out mistake. It was not." Rafiq alleged Vaughan made the comment to him, Adil Rashid, Rana Naved-ul-Hasan and Ajmal Shahzad before a match against Nottinghamshire at Trent Bridge on 22 June 2009. Vaughan - in a statement posted on social media before the ruling was officially released - said: "It has been both difficult and upsetting to hear about the painful experiences which Azeem has described over the past three years. "The outcome of these CDC proceedings must not be allowed to detract from the core message that there can be no place for racism in the game of cricket, or in society generally." He added: "I have never wanted to do anything that runs contrary to genuine efforts to clean up the game of cricket. I truly hope people can understand why, on a personal level, I could not just accept, or apologise for, something which I know I did not do. "At times, this process has brought me to the brink of falling out of love with cricket. I won't address here the toll that it has taken on me and my family, but I have no doubt that it has also been incredibly stressful for all of the others concerned. I hope that for them and for cricket, an inclusive healing process can now begin." www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/65135694Too little too late - Vaughan has already had his name completely dragged through the mud.
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Post by stryker on Apr 1, 2023 2:02:32 GMT
West Indies post 258 (Johnson Charles 118 in 46 balls) in the second T20 against South Africa. SA, however, surpass it pretty easily, pulling off the highest ever successful run chase in T20Is - winning by six wickets with seven balls to spare (Quinton De Kock 100 in 44, Reeza Hendricks 68 in 28). Wow, 517 runs were scored in 38,5 overs today. A T20 version of the famous 438 game? I refer to that game as ‘infamous’. Altitude and a slick, small outfield combined with a deck that was as flat and hard as an airport runway meant that bowling was more a case of luck than good management. Mishits we’re going for four, (I remember a leading edge went over cover for four) and regular flicks to leg where carrying the boundary easy. There is absolutely no way known that it should be considered the BEST ODI game ever. Wouldn’t even crack my top 10. Likewise this T20. The Pak v Ind game from the WC would be a fair shout. Don't be a grouch.
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Post by weststigersbob on Apr 1, 2023 16:10:42 GMT
The problem I have with that game is that so many people who think they know cricket use it as an example of a great when it clearly wasn’t. Even from a purely statistical perspective, the only genuine ‘greatness’ about it was that the highest ODI score record was broken in consecutive innings. People who use terms like “greatest chase ever” fail to fathom one very important aspect about that chase - South Africa had virtually identical conditions to bat in that Australia did. The singular best time to ever break the record chase in a game, would be straight after a side posts the record in the first innings. Great games feature a balance between bat and ball, and must also feature superlative efforts from both. It also helps if the game if something meaningful. That’s why I genuinely believe the best 3 ODIs ever played are the 99 WC SF tie between South Africa and Australia ( www.espncricinfo.com/series/icc-world-cup-1999-61046/australia-vs-south-africa-2nd-sf-65233/full-scorecard ) which featured 3 outstanding bowling efforts from Pollock, Donald and Warne, and 2 genuinely intelligent partnerships under pressure (Waugh/Bevan & Kallis/Rhodes); The group stage game between Australia and New Zealand in the 2015 WC ( www.espncricinfo.com/series/icc-cricket-world-cup-2014-15-509587/new-zealand-vs-australia-20th-match-pool-a-656437/full-scorecard ) Australia were cruising along then kept finding ways of getting themselves out. Trent Boult bowled a perfect probing spell to get 5/27, but some good batting by Haddin (43 off 41) gave Australia something to bowl at. And Mitchell Starc (6/28) nearly bowled Australia to a victory that seemed almost impossible. Standing in their way was, of course, the 2 talismans of NZ cricket - BMac with 50 off 24, slaying Mitchell Johnson to all parts, and the scorer of the winning runs 45 off 42 whilst all were falling around him; And of course the 2019 WC final - www.espncricinfo.com/series/icc-cricket-world-cup-2019-1144415/england-vs-new-zealand-final-1144530/full-scorecard . The best thing about this game, is that right throughout it was an even battle between bat and ball on a good surface and perfect outfield. NZ first innings was a perfect illustration. No one batter got a massive score, no one bowler dominant (although Plunkett did bowl superbly). Stokes played almost the perfect innings - but got lucky with a ricochet and couldn’t get them over the line - only to a super over.
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Post by weststigersbob on Jun 11, 2023 14:44:05 GMT
Figured I’d post it here :
Australia are the world test champions !
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