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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2017 3:34:11 GMT
The Spanish translates to "How to understand the respective universes."
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Sept 18, 2017 4:52:28 GMT
The Spanish translates to "How to understand the respective universes." Actually this is perfect.
It's completely baffling why anybody tries to excuse the blatantly obvious complete lack of planning and vision in the DCU. The shit movies are just a result of the same problem. And it's this lack of organization which is what I mean when I say I don't respect anything DC does. Whenever you hear me complain about DC, this is exactly what I'm talking about.
And the next time you hear somebody say DC offers directors creative freedom, just think of this chart. Disorganization and chaos is what they mean by creative freedom.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2017 4:56:17 GMT
The Spanish translates to "How to understand the respective universes." Actually this is perfect.
It's completely baffling why anybody tries to excuse the blatantly obvious complete lack of planning and vision in the DCU. The shit movies are just a result of the same problem. And it's this lack of organization which is what I mean when I say I don't respect anything DC does. Whenever you hear me complain about DC, this is exactly what I'm talking about.
And the next time you hear somebody say DC offers directors creative freedom, just think of this chart. Disorganization and chaos is what they mean by creative freedom.
Oh, I'll be keeping this bumped and ready to be linked!
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Sept 18, 2017 5:06:03 GMT
Although I understand ( and actually agree with ) the basic idea here ( the lack of planning ) it really isn't all that accurate.
For starters, there should be a straight line down the middle ( from MoS > BvS > JL ) with lines for SS WW and AM then shooting out the sides.
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Post by justanaveragejoe on Sept 18, 2017 5:06:37 GMT
In other words, Kevin Feige knows what he's doing, while WB doesn't have a fuckin clue.
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Sept 18, 2017 5:11:01 GMT
How is introducing WW or AM in a team up film ( before giving them a solo film ) any different than showing SM or BP in CA:CW first? Oh, that's right, it's not.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Sept 18, 2017 5:13:19 GMT
How is introducing WW or AM in a team up film ( before giving them a solo film ) any different than showing SM or BP in CA:CW first? Oh, that's right, it's not. Sure it is. The world had been well established by that point in the MCU and DC's hadn't.
IE: Panther was introduced with the context of what had already been established with Vibranium being stolen in Ultron. He was inserted into the politics of Sokovia, etc.
WW and AM had no such context, so it's actually quite different.
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Sept 18, 2017 5:18:02 GMT
How is introducing WW or AM in a team up film ( before giving them a solo film ) any different than showing SM or BP in CA:CW first? Oh, that's right, it's not. Sure it is. The world had been well established by that point in the MCU and DC's hadn't.
IE: Panther was introduced with the context of what had already been established with Vibranium being stolen in Ultron. He was inserted into the politics of Sokovia, etc.
WW and AM had no such context, so it's actually quite different.
It doesn't look or sound any different to me. Guess we'll just have to agree to disagree on that one.
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Post by DC-Fan on Sept 18, 2017 5:26:49 GMT
How is introducing WW or AM in a team up film ( before giving them a solo film ) any different than showing SM or BP in CA:CW first? Oh, that's right, it's not. No difference. Its just typical MCU hypocrisy.
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Post by DC-Fan on Sept 18, 2017 5:29:17 GMT
Although I understand ( and actually agree with ) the basic idea here ( the lack of planning ) it really isn't all that accurate. Yep, it isn't accurate. MCU should be the shape of a question mark. Because even MCU fans were questioning what the fuck they meant by "8 Years Later".
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Post by DC-Fan on Sept 18, 2017 5:30:57 GMT
In other words, Kevin Feige knows what he's doing "8 Years Later". LOL!!! Even MCU Dictator Kevin Feige can't explain how that massive continuity fuck-up got into the movie. Feige has no clue what's going on.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2017 5:34:41 GMT
Sure it is. The world had been well established by that point in the MCU and DC's hadn't.
IE: Panther was introduced with the context of what had already been established with Vibranium being stolen in Ultron. He was inserted into the politics of Sokovia, etc.
WW and AM had no such context, so it's actually quite different.
It doesn't look or sound any different to me. Guess we'll just have to agree to disagree on that one. Its rather simple, really. Black Panther fits into the story organically. Wonder Woman shouldn't have been in BvS at all.
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Sept 18, 2017 5:38:14 GMT
It doesn't look or sound any different to me. Guess we'll just have to agree to disagree on that one. Its rather simple, really. Black Panther fits into the story organically. Wonder Woman shouldn't have been in BvS at all. So, in your opinion, it was only SM and Antman that were just shoehorned in, for no reason at all?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2017 5:42:32 GMT
Its rather simple, really. Black Panther fits into the story organically. Wonder Woman shouldn't have been in BvS at all. So, in your opinion, it was only SM and Antman that were just shoehorned in, for no reason at all? No, there's a reason for both being there. Ant-Man, you could tell, was always going to be in the film. Spider-man is the only one that was shoehorned in, but they made it work and it was very enjoyable. Nothing in BvS worked.
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Sept 18, 2017 5:48:41 GMT
So, in your opinion, it was only SM and Antman that were just shoehorned in, for no reason at all? No, there's a reason for both being there. Ant-Man, you could tell, was always going to be in the film. Spider-man is the only one that was shoehorned in, but they made it work and it was very enjoyable. Nothing in BvS worked. Again, I don't see any difference between the inclusions of WW or SM. In fact, I will say that WW was more involved in the story, than SM was. SMs cameo was actually more similar to AMs ( i.e. hi there! here I am! see you in my own movie soon! ) You are, of course, entitled to your opinion.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2017 5:54:13 GMT
No, there's a reason for both being there. Ant-Man, you could tell, was always going to be in the film. Spider-man is the only one that was shoehorned in, but they made it work and it was very enjoyable. Nothing in BvS worked. Again, I don't see any difference between the inclusions of WW or SM. In fact, I will say that WW was more involved in the story, than SM was. SMs cameo was actually more similar to AMs ( i.e. hi there! here I am! see you in my own movie soon! ) You are, of course, entitled to your opinion. Fair enough. Agree to disagree. However, WB's lack of planning in the DCEU still stands.
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Post by justanaveragejoe on Sept 18, 2017 6:29:09 GMT
In other words, Kevin Feige knows what he's doing "8 Years Later". LOL!!! Even MCU Dictator Kevin Feige can't explain how that massive continuity fuck-up got into the movie. Feige has no clue what's going on. It's not hard DC Fan. You seem to be confused because you think the MCU movies take place at their actual release dates. Movie wise, The Avengers came out 5 years ago, but in the MCU, the Chitauri battle took place 8 years ago.
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Post by DC-Fan on Sept 18, 2017 6:56:30 GMT
"8 Years Later". LOL!!! Even MCU Dictator Kevin Feige can't explain how that massive continuity fuck-up got into the movie. Feige has no clue what's going on. It's not hard DC Fan. You seem to be confused because you think the MCU movies take place at their actual release dates. Movie wise, The Avengers came out 5 years ago, but in the MCU, the Chitauri battle took place 8 years ago. So you're saying that the Chitauri battle took place in 2009, before Steve Rogers woke up in 2011 after being frozen in ice for 70 years? Yet, Captain America was in the Chitauri battle in 2009, even though he didn't wake up until 2011.
Like I said, MCU Dictator Kevin Feige has no clue what's going on and still can't explain how that massive continuity fuck-up got into the movie.
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Post by justanaveragejoe on Sept 18, 2017 7:00:51 GMT
It's not hard DC Fan. You seem to be confused because you think the MCU movies take place at their actual release dates. Movie wise, The Avengers came out 5 years ago, but in the MCU, the Chitauri battle took place 8 years ago. So you're saying that the Chitauri battle took place in 2009, before Steve Rogers woke up in 2011 after being frozen in ice for 70 years? Yet, Captain America was in the Chitauri battle in 2009, even though he didn't wake up until 2011.
Like I said, MCU Dictator Kevin Feige has no clue what's going on and still can't explain how that massive continuity fuck-up got into the movie.
Captain Rogers woke up in 2010, the Chitauri Battle in New York also took place in 2010. Therefore, Spider-Man: Homecoming takes place in 2018.
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Post by DC-Fan on Sept 18, 2017 7:19:52 GMT
So you're saying that the Chitauri battle took place in 2009, before Steve Rogers woke up in 2011 after being frozen in ice for 70 years? Yet, Captain America was in the Chitauri battle in 2009, even though he didn't wake up until 2011.
Like I said, MCU Dictator Kevin Feige has no clue what's going on and still can't explain how that massive continuity fuck-up got into the movie.
Captain Rogers woke up in 2010 Rogers woke up in 2012. He had been asleep for 70 years. America didn't enter WWII until December 1941 so Rogers couldn't have been frozen in ice before December 1941 and probably not until at least 1942. He slept for 70 years and then woke up, in 2012. the Chitauri Battle in New York also took place in 2010. So you're saying that the Chitauri battle took place in 2010 before Thor came to Earth in 2011? Yet Thor was in the Chitauri battle in 2010 before he came to Earth in 2011. Like I said, MCU Dictator Kevin Feige has no clue what's going on and still can't explain how that massive continuity fuck-up got into the movie.
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